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Post up your Z1 PET PEVES (firmware hope for the future)

By Hyperite · Jun 15, 2006in Hacks/Mods💬 77 posts👁️ 26,211 views
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Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 14:55 UTC#1
Here are just a few of the things that annoy me that could be fixed/updated/added with a firm/software update. Post 'em up!

-Copy MP3s from data disc to HD
-Echo cancellation for Bluetooth calling
-Volume control of the phone via Vol +/- keys during a call
-Ability to SAY "ok" to the nag screen like on the 80DVD
-Speed up searching of the iPod, and be able to search alphabetically using a QWERTY pad, as if for a POI
-Autodimming of the screen depending on ambient light, like the 7500DVD. I think this could be done by monitoring the IR port....
-Speaker dependent equalization. On the older head units, you could say "Front Speakers: Small/Large", "Rear Speakers: Small/Large".
-Allow for a shut-down screen to be displayed when turning off the car

That's all I've got so far, but there's just a bunch of little things that drive me nuts on this otherwise great unit. I doubt we'll ever see a firmware update, let alone one that makes any of these enhancements, but I like to dream.
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 15:04 UTC#2
Hyperite said:

-Allow for a shut-down screen to be displayed when turning off the car


Why is this an issue? If you turn the car off, woudln't you want your radio to turn off? If they did something to lengthen the time it took for the Z1 to turn off that would probably mess up the timing of my circuit during ignition (remember when you turn the key to on, it powers up for a split second, when you crank the engine, it shuts down, when you finish cranking the engine it starts back up again). Would you want to see something every time you crank the engine over?

The other stuff would be nice but those are not deal breakers for me. This one I can't really think of any good need for.


-Allow us to change the boot up screen with a JPG we could load easily with a CD. I would love for mine to say "Lincoln" or whatever when you turn on the car. It would make it look more "factory".
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 15:27 UTC#3
ducatiboy said:
The other stuff would be nice but those are not deal breakers for me. This one I can't really think of any good need for.


-Allow us to change the boot up screen with a JPG we could load easily with a CD. I would love for mine to say "Lincoln" or whatever when you turn on the car. It would make it look more "factory".


Yeah, this is kinda related to yours, it could just be a short Honda logo that comes on the screen for 2 seconds before it completely turns off. And I understand what you mean about cranking the engine, but maybe it could be an "if unit has been powered up for XX amount of time, show screen, otherwise don't". I dunno, just a nice little logo on startup and shutdown.
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 16:11 UTC#4
I'm really happy with the unit, these are just nag items, but not a deal breaker by any means:

Quick disconnect button on screen for bluetooth, ie touch the phone icon in the upper right hand corner to disconnect bluetooth

Attenuate or mute button on screen

When it asks if you want to reroute durring traffic have the mic be active for 5 seconds so you can say yes or no

Ability to add POI's with proximity alarms - my Magellan let me download all the red light cameras as POI and it will warn me when I am aproaching one

copy mp3's to HD

Faster/better ipod navi

Ability to speak letters at any screen in which you can "type" letters

Faster boot up
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 16:21 UTC#5
And how about a "reroute" button. Whenever I go off-route, it seems desparate to get me back to the route rather than to my destination. Maybe even just an "Avoid U-Turns" option.
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 18:44 UTC#6
I don't have an IPOD but how about copying ipod music to HDD. Would solve the mp3 problem too.

My guess is with enough intelligence pioneer may make a USB reader interface and update the software to copy from it.
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 19:29 UTC#7
Hyperite said:
And how about a "reroute" button. Whenever I go off-route, it seems desparate to get me back to the route rather than to my destination. Maybe even just an "Avoid U-Turns" option.


Thats odd, my unit reroutes almost immediately.
Posted Jun 15, 2006 · 23:19 UTC#8
In order of priority ( and yes, I know these have already been mentioned )..

1.) Speedier iPod interface...
HOW: When the unit detects an iPod is connected, cache up the main lists.. (i.e. Artists, Albums, Genres, Playlists ). I realize the iPod is serial at 19.2kbaud, but it wouldn't take that long for those lists.. It can be done in the background while the iPod or some other source is playing. I wouldn't mind waiting 5 seconds for the list of songs to load after I've selected that far down. But getting to the middle 10 letters of the alphabet on a packed 60 gig iPod is just plain torture.. Thank god you can go up on the iPod when at the top of the list to hit the bottom.. otherwise, it'd be MUCH worse.

2.) Volume control over Nav voice / Bluetooth Speakerphone when audio from those is playing. Cummon.. the Volume button does NOTHING when this is in progress... Can't even change the playing audio that's in the background ( if you have the unit set to Attenuate the audio instead of muting it ). You have to turn the source off to kill the background stuff, and wade through 3 menus to control the volume of the call ( which yes, you can do while in a call ).

3.) Be able to tell the unit we are mapping a NEW road... Give the road a name... Have the unit ask us what type of road it is.. Limited access, Divided, # of lanes each direction, one way, etc... ( Check boxes would probably be good ), then drive the road... and the Unit learn the road, and be available for routing in the future. This can't possibly be that hard...

4.) Copy MP3's to the HD...

5.) Expand the HD [ which we can now do anyway ]

6.) Change the bootup logo

7.) How about a freak'n Mute / Att button.. somewhere.. anywhere... Please??

8.) Live dock for the HDD or software for the PC that allows us to load it up outside of the unit, or a Data connection to the unit for sync purposes... Wireless, Wired, I don't really care.. This could also be used to send Pioneer the road updates we do in item # 4 above.. Require 2 or more w/ close data, and then mark it for addition on future updates..


Things not to change: Flash to bypass parking break restriction hack... Don't disable this!! ;)

On a side note... I noticed on the box for my XM Nav Traffic receiver that it says the data connection on it is RS232c compliant.. Would be interesting to sit in the middle of this connection and log all the data... We might be able to do some fun stuff with it.. :)

LK
Posted Jun 16, 2006 · 03:48 UTC#9
I want that woman to talk faster.
I mean sweet jesus, I'll be there before I'm done entering the destination!
Posted Jun 16, 2006 · 04:04 UTC#10
edrock200 said:
Hyperite said:
And how about a "reroute" button. Whenever I go off-route, it seems desparate to get me back to the route rather than to my destination. Maybe even just an "Avoid U-Turns" option.


Thats odd, my unit reroutes almost immediately.

Mine reroutes almost immediately too, but it reroutes to get me back ON route...even if i'm taking a faster road. It'll try to make me U-turn about 5 times before agreeing with me.
Posted Jun 16, 2006 · 06:39 UTC#11
first of all, multi-lingual support for ID3 tag.

second, background image "storage" so i don't have to put in cd everytime i want to use custom.

3rd, music record quality adjust, so we can record songs in higher bitrate.

and 4th, ability to upgrade to a bigger hard drive.
Posted Jun 16, 2006 · 23:33 UTC#12
*sigh* as I sit here thinking about all this, i really hope we or pioneer come up with a solution to these things. Other than the bluetooth (which I could wire up using another brand's external link w/ pioneer's aux & cell mute) I'm really just using this like a D2. Which is sad because this thing could have way more functionality than the D2. Just feeling a little disappointed is all.
Posted Jun 17, 2006 · 03:57 UTC#13
Haha, I dunno if anybody noticed... if you change from the orignal A/V background, the image inside the active source buttons and inside the faux-ipod display are still the lightened original background. Not even an alpha-blended button. Now THAT'S lazy.
Posted Jun 17, 2006 · 13:01 UTC#14
edrock200 said:
Hyperite said:
And how about a "reroute" button. Whenever I go off-route, it seems desparate to get me back to the route rather than to my destination. Maybe even just an "Avoid U-Turns" option.


Thats odd, my unit reroutes almost immediately.


I'm like Hyperite...mine keeps trying to get me back to the Z1 route instead of offering me an alternative way using my current location. Heck...I'm almost at my destination before it finally decides I'm not turning around and going the way it wanted me to. On a good note though....the next time I punched in that address, it routed me the way I went the last time and "learned" my preferred route. Kinda cool!
Posted Jun 17, 2006 · 14:41 UTC#15
The option to have the playing source (dvd, ipod, etc) pause when the nav voice or bluetooth kicks in.
Posted Jun 18, 2006 · 17:38 UTC#16
Street names are often not displayed on the map. I wish the Z1 would give me the option to display the name of the next street ahead. This is standard on the Garmins, and is essential if you are looking for a particular street in non-search mode.
Posted Jun 19, 2006 · 21:32 UTC#17
edrock200 said:
The option to have the playing source (dvd, ipod, etc) pause when the nav voice or bluetooth kicks in.


That's a damn good idea.

By the way Edrock, I took a different route than the Z1 wanted me to take Saturday. No hesitation whatsoever this time. It immediately plotted a new course and didn't try to get me back on it's original course.
Posted Jun 19, 2006 · 23:16 UTC#18
How about an ASL feature? Automatic Sound Leveling? So that the radio / navi voices will adjust with speed. I often find myself turning down the radio when stopped, and back up again once in motion. This could be done automatically, and be adjustable (or disabled) by the user. The VSS wire is already there, so the logic is minimal.

Same goes for the NAVI voice. When I'm stopped, with radio down, the NAVI voice is really loud, but at speed, with the window open I can barely hear her speaking. This should be tied dto either the volume of the radio, or speed sensitive.

Not all of us drive Lexus where this is less of an issue.

-Jeff
Posted Jun 20, 2006 · 12:27 UTC#19
Jeff, I was just thinking the same thing today. The stock radio in the Civic adjusted for VSS, why not Pioneer?
Posted Jun 20, 2006 · 17:58 UTC#20
NO body wants it to start up faster?

thsi is the slowest start up i have ever seen
Posted Jun 20, 2006 · 18:32 UTC#21
BoCaPiMp said:
NO body wants it to start up faster?

thsi is the slowest start up i have ever seen


Don't make it too much faster, we need time to flash our lights! :)
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 17:43 UTC#22
Main thing for me is list songs in Alpha order when searching iPod by Playlist. It puts the songs in the order you added them to the iPod.
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 21:14 UTC#23
A volume KNOB, and other basic controls with decent sized buttons so that you wont have to look at the screen for basic control functions.
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 22:06 UTC#24
Anonymous said:
A volume KNOB, and other basic controls with decent sized buttons so that you wont have to look at the screen for basic control functions.

Unlikely firmware would be able to fix that...
Posted Jun 22, 2006 · 11:30 UTC#25
A photo browser and the ability to copy photos to the HD

MP3's off of DVD's!!
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