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Owners of F Series - Would you do it again?

By Head Unit · Aug 14, 2008in General💬 101 posts👁️ 21,801 views
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Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 10:40 UTC#51

Then you are clearly having more luck with it then me. People have done a great job fixing things like the blue boxes, etc. But for me those were way low on the priority list. I have crashes, and bluetooth problems, general sluggishness, etc.

 

I agree with this statement. Mine resets, drops the ipod, comes up with a windows error, and still has all the problems the others are having.

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 12:22 UTC#52
you want a copy of my files and everything? maybe itll solve your problem if you have the same stuff as mine

 

If it doesnt sell on ebay in the next 4 or 5 days, I plan on copying someone's files!

 

Maybe adding up the small fixes like getting rid of the blue boxes and fixing the clock color, and even changing the awful gong can make it more bearable.

 

I do hate to get rid of it because I will be losing a lot of money. Looks like 3 or 400 bucks in fact!

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 12:26 UTC#53

I saw your auction for it, and I saw you had a reserve price on it. You do know if it doesn't go past the reserve price you can cancel the auction? Chances are it will go past your reserve, so you have to choose before it goes over, whether to keep it and make the mods needed to make you happy, or just get rid of it

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-AVIC-F900BT ... dZViewItem

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 14:47 UTC#54

I think I'd do it again.

 

In a roundabout way, I am actually glad that they had some of the problems they had. Why? Because if the thing worked perfectly and had no flaws, we probably wouldn't have gotten that testmode file, and would have much less desire to get in and muck around with it.

 

And I can say, speaking for myself only of course, I'm way happier with my F700 now, than I would have been if it didn't have some of those problems from the start. Thanks to some of those problems, I now have the ability and knowledge to modify the heck out of it, make it look exactly like I want it to, with the functions and features that I want.

 

My old Garmin GPSV, or a Sony Nav-U, or even my former car stereo might not have had any (many) flaws, but they sure wouldn't let me go in and change fonts and colours, move stuff around, and delete stuff I didn't like.

 

The remaining quirks and bugs (startup time) are, IMHO, outweighed by the other advantages.

 

So yeah, I'd consider another F-series in the future. Especially if the next generation were linux-based! :wink:

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 14:57 UTC#55
I saw your auction for it, and I saw you had a reserve price on it. You do know if it doesn't go past the reserve price you can cancel the auction? Chances are it will go past your reserve, so you have to choose before it goes over, whether to keep it and make the mods needed to make you happy, or just get rid of it

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-AVIC-F900BT ... dZViewItem

 

I thought about that. If it doesnt sell, I wont relist it, just try and be very patient. If it does sell, I will be ok, I will lose some money, but I am going to get the Pioneer FH-P8000BT since it has 60% of the same function and has excellent reviews.

 

So... we will see.

 

Reserve is 775 which I know is high for the unit alone, but I am tossing in a a reverse cam and 16Gb SD card - so it may or may not sell.

 

With my damned luck Pioneer's second fix will come out right after I sell and will fix the boot up problem lol

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 15:15 UTC#56

Personally then I would cancel it....worst case scenario you just post it back up, right?

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 15:44 UTC#57
Personally then I would cancel it....worst case scenario you just post it back up, right?

 

Well my wife agrees with you it seems, so I cancelled it for now.

 

But now i need the dang updates so I can fix the font and blue boxes...and sounds.

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 16:04 UTC#58

I just went on break, as soon as i get back I'll attach it to this thread.

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 16:07 UTC#59
I just went on break, as soon as i get back I'll attach it to this thread.

 

I have a new thread http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17542

 

Could you attach it there for easy finding?

 

Thanks.

Posted Aug 28, 2008 · 20:49 UTC#60

I would definitely buy this again! I am having fun playing around with maps settings and such and making the unit function the way I want (as much as I can anyways).

 

I would NOT recommend it to someone else that is not willing to spend the time to mess around with it though because it does take time and patience

Posted Aug 31, 2008 · 01:11 UTC#61

I would definitely do it again... In such a short amount of time, there have been so many updates that have made this unit just what I was looking for... Special thanks to SkiCrave and Stephanie for all your help!

Posted Sep 01, 2008 · 21:15 UTC#62

No I would not do it again I would say the atlas map inside all these units is lacking compared to other garmin units even though it has 12 million points of interests

 

 

here is an example of what I am saying I have another car that has a Kenwood DDX-8019 / KNA-G510 - DVD / Navigation Installed(510 has garmin gps installed)

 

and that unit you can easily say search for (business name in the area I am in) and there is also a option on the screen that say search for item in other zip code then a person just punches in other zip code

really handy when a person is driving to another town on the go and you can look ahead of time easy

 

I spoke to a pioneer rep who said the f- series will never have that function

 

 

That is a function the F- series does not really have in a simple manner as I am stating with the kenwood unit

 

 

 

mikron24

Posted Sep 02, 2008 · 00:05 UTC#63

Well, I wouldnt go by what the Pioneer tech/rep says on anything. On three different calls, I got three different answers to the same question. One says they will be releasing an update within 3 weeks, one says they arent releasing one, and the other said they arent sure...

Posted Sep 02, 2008 · 00:41 UTC#64

well no big deal about what the reps says but rather let some of the users of AVIC-F90BT , AVIC-F900BT , AVIC-F700BT, AVIC-F500BT weigh in on this subject because on the atlas maps are week they are encased in a POI only

 

and there is no option to check by zip code and then check another zip in different area that is just that way pioneer decided to do this with the ATLAS MAPS

 

pioneer POI's have strange categories based with Poi itself

 

other manufactures like garmin or Mio put there points of interest directly in the menu system easier to navigate and more choices than Pioneer F - series Searching by zip code is just one example I mentioned about above and there are many more!

 

I just hope that users of these F-Series get a change to see other manufacturers of car Navigation systems so they can make the wisest broadest decision as possible so they get what they really want

 

 

mikron24

Posted Sep 12, 2008 · 11:25 UTC#65

Won't buy it again. Some verry anoying problems in this unit compare to my old D3. The D3's screen was not so sharp but the GUI was much better than the new F900.

I always thought that new unit should be better but in this case its an disaster.

 

Regards

 

Martijn, Amsterdam, Europe

Posted Sep 12, 2008 · 14:20 UTC#66

I'm happy with the F900 - I'm not having nearly as many problems as others - my blackberry pearl syncs contacts any time I want, phone calls come in with the id displayed, call clarity is pretty clear - sometimes very clear other times not so clear (this is the case with using a cell phone in general)

 

Ipod is great - very happy with it - but most importantly - if it wasn't for the steering wheel SWI-PS controls - I would be more unhappy with the unit.

 

Steering wheel controls actually complete the unit - example - slow boot up - not an issue with the controls - for example - after I turn the key - my unit is playing songs off the ipod in about 20 - 30 seconds - as soon as I hear the songs - I can control them via the steering wheel controls - change track, volume, mute - while the system it self is saying starting up or vr dictionary loading. You cannot do this via the unit alone.

 

Voice control is great for ipod - not so much for contacts - I need to figure that part out. But all in all I'm very happy. You really need the unit & the steering wheel controls to complete it.

 

As more updates come out - the unit will become better.

 

My .02$

 

Thanks,

 

Chris

Posted Sep 13, 2008 · 12:07 UTC#67

Took mine back and got the Kenwood DNX8120. I dont know why I waited so long to switch them out, the Kenwood is SO much better.

 

Eff you Pioneer, you just lost a mobile audio customer (only because I have 2 of your plasma's).

Posted Sep 13, 2008 · 13:35 UTC#68

I am all for the F series. It is a major upgrade to the D3 in my opinion. I had a problem with my ipod also but I was running 1.0.2 software on my ipod which I needed for the D3 to enable videos. Now since I have updated to 1.1.2 everything is good to go with no problems. My voice rec. for the ipod is seamless and I have a heavy southern accent so I don't understand how other people are having issues. Load time is a bit of a pain but oh well. Overall this was a good buy in my opinion F900bt.

Posted Sep 13, 2008 · 19:00 UTC#69

After some initial problems (and one right now, where I'm not sure if the latest iTunes update will work with it), I'm very very happy with the unit.

 

Voice commands work fine. The phone is excellent. People say it is better than my analog headset, which I thought was impossible.

 

The sound is great (boosted by a NEXT five channel amp).

 

I got it also for voice commands because I drive a 20 mile mountain every day and thought it would be smart (duh) not to have to take my eyes off the road (my hands upon the wheel), and they work well for me.

 

I've had no luck with MSN, but I need to work that out. It worked one day and they claim it should work in my area, but doesn't. Overall, for the price, I got what I wanted: James Bond technology in a 17 year old car, good radio and good tunes.

 

I will post a video review soon too.

Posted Sep 17, 2008 · 00:38 UTC#70

Hi, regarding the GPS Signal

Would the Device keep the lock on the satelites while of like factory GPSs?

or everytime i turn it on it will take a couple of minutes to start working?

 

thanks

 

Alejandro

Posted Sep 17, 2008 · 04:17 UTC#71

I purchased both the f900bt and the f700bt, both of which did not work properly and efficiently after the firmware updates. Sent them both back and bought a Z1 upgraded to Z3(with garrat's drives) and a D3 for my wife's car. I cant wait until a hybrid of both Z and F series meet...until then, I am completely satisfied with my Z series that I control my bluetooth and ipod from my steering wheel using my ir remote.

Posted Sep 17, 2008 · 04:53 UTC#72

well the unit takes a good minute and a half to turn on before you can do anything with it. once its on tho, the navigation is completely functional and the gps resumes where every you turned off your car.

 

so yea it keeps a lock on the satellites but the unit takes a minute and a half to fully be functional.

Posted Sep 17, 2008 · 05:00 UTC#73

WELL SMALLER SCREEN THEN MY PREVIOUS JVC!!!!

 

BUT BETTER RADIO!!! HAS THE VIDEO OPTION FROM THE IPOD!!!

 

WISH IT HAD THE INTERNERAL HARD DRIVE LIEK THE Z3....

 

BUT SOME THINGS ARE BETTER THEN Z3..

Posted Sep 17, 2008 · 22:53 UTC#74

THANK YOU, TEREL!!!!!!!!!

 

WE'RE GLAD YOU LIKE IT!!!

 

 

:roll:

(Quit yellin', sheeeez...)

 

p.s. Yeah, I'd do it again, too... :lol:

Posted Sep 18, 2008 · 05:54 UTC#75

Great unit F90bt start up time sucks but remember it boots off a hard drive think about how long your PC takes to boot up. everything works after bootup

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