I know I'm new here, but I have it on good information that there's new updates coming for F90/900 within a week. It's supposed to make the unit boot up faster (under 30 seconds ) and fix the ipod drop-out issue. Although, I'm wondering if there isn't a way to overclock the unit???

Overclock it to achieve what? I'm sure being positioned near your heating vents, temperature would already be an issue...

Just heard the same thing from a Pioneer Shop. BIG Update should arrive around the third week of October.

Hopefully they won't stop working on updates after releasing finally ONE real good updates!

F90/900? Nothing for the F700?

i'll believe it when i see it... the ipod drop out is my biggest problem... the startup i've learned to live with...

I have heard similiar from Pioneer twice within less than a week when I have called... they did not give a time frame, however they said they are well aware of the MANY problems and that they are getting a bad rep for it so they are very commited to fixing it and are working hard at an update. I do not want to get my hopes up for a time frame though but that would be kick ass if it is available within the next week.

The F900/90BT European version.

The Bootup time is definitely a MUST fix (otherwise I wouldn't call it a "major" update!)

but hopefully there will be some other bugs fixed ? (this is a question mark, not some news)

Other BUG needing a fix :

- playing the next mp3 file before the previous ended (on SD card)

- empty Blue Box

- muting (or reducing, depending on the option we set) the volume of the FM Radio when giving instrucitons for the navigation (it does it for the MP3 files, but looks like they forgot it when listening to simple FM radio !).

- not clearing the destination when we actually arrived at our destination ! (It's just annoying to touch the screen 4 times, with slow reaction, when we arrived at destination and need to stop the navigation !! 1) MENU > 2) NAVIGATION 3) CANCEL DESTINATION 4) CONFIRM !!! ...Annoying !!! ).

- A rear camera view that won't be suddenly interrupted by a popping menu for 2 seconds and then returning to the rear camera view (I have to stop the car because of that menu popping up!)?

Wanted functions :

- there is an ability to search for VIDEO files, but no way to search for MP3 files.... well... i'm pretty sure most of us have a larger list of mp3s and will require a search for the mp3 on the SD/USB !

-A REAL tutorial for the navgate program, and not just a tutorial saying that the button "open" do open folders.... a tutorial explaining how to link the navgate software to the avic (create specific folder on SD ???) would be more useful. Cause right now this navgate software is untouched?

- an easy way to convert and import Voice navigation, from common voice file format.

- a way to update each year the MAPs from an official pioneer website ?

- the 3 lines displaying data in MAP mode + the Radar info when approaching one, are way too small with colors difficult to read (and i have a 10 on each eye..). So a way to read it more easily without having to concentrate too much on those small fonts while driving on the highway would be a SAFETY improvement.

I'm sure there are other bug/improvement required.. but this list fixed would finally makes me happy about the product.

- muting (or reducing, depending on the option we set) the volume of the FM Radio when giving instrucitons for the navigation (it does it for the MP3 files, but looks like they forgot it when listening to simple FM radio !).

Already done. Goto the source menu switch to "off". Hit menu button>settings>av settings>Lower left button says something about ATT/mute. That button is the toggle between mute and att for nav directions but it can only be changed when the av source is switched off.

- muting (or reducing, depending on the option we set) the volume of the FM Radio when giving instrucitons for the navigation (it does it for the MP3 files, but looks like they forgot it when listening to simple FM radio !).

 

Already done. Goto the source menu switch to "off". Hit menu button>settings>av settings>Lower left button says something about ATT/mute. That button is the toggle between mute and att for nav directions but it can only be changed when the av source is switched off.

Nope, i know that, but that's not what i meant. When in the option menu you mentionned i select (for example) ATT (=attenuate), it will attenuate any mp3 file in order to hear the navigation instructions... HOWEVER, if i'm listening to FM Radio (with that same option) it WON'T attenuate the radio when giving the instructions...

at least, that's what happenned last time. i'll try again in the next few days.

Odd, I believe mine attenuates avery source I have. iPod, xm, hd radio, normal FM when I used it, and CD/USB/SD.

I'll have to try mine again and see if it does.

Mine attenuates every source

- not clearing the destination when we actually arrived at our destination ! (It's just annoying to touch the screen 4 times, with slow reaction, when we arrived at destination and need to stop the navigation !! 1) MENU > 2) NAVIGATION 3) CANCEL DESTINATION 4) CONFIRM !!! ...Annoying !!! ).

I admittedly am not on this forum as much as i should be, but this is the first time i have seen this mentioned, and i am glad i am not the only one..... that "bug" makes the Nav an absolute displeasure to use....

I'm still in amazement that these decks passed through Pioneer's QA department.... it's sad actually...

- muting (or reducing, depending on the option we set) the volume of the FM Radio when giving instrucitons for the navigation (it does it for the MP3 files, but looks like they forgot it when listening to simple FM radio !).

 

Already done. Goto the source menu switch to "off". Hit menu button>settings>av settings>Lower left button says something about ATT/mute. That button is the toggle between mute and att for nav directions but it can only be changed when the av source is switched off.

 

Nope, i know that, but that's not what i meant. When in the option menu you mentionned i select (for example) ATT (=attenuate), it will attenuate any mp3 file in order to hear the navigation instructions... HOWEVER, if i'm listening to FM Radio (with that same option) it WON'T attenuate the radio when giving the instructions...

at least, that's what happenned last time. i'll try again in the next few days.

Just tested it again today, and i confirm this bug on my unit. (firmware EU 1.0020).

When listening to FM Radio, and using NAVigation to somwhere, the nav instructions are set to a level VERY low (barely hearable), and no matter if i put the volume of the Radio to 62 or to 10, the level of the nav instructions stay the same (estimated to be around level 10 ??).

I did check the Audio configuration, moving the General and Audio Bar left to right... this doesn't change a thing to this bug :s

But again, when on SD/USB mp3s, this bug doesn't exist and volume of the nav will be xx level above the general volume (as set to be in the audio configuration).

The only bug on this thing that annoys the hell out of me is when using voice navigation in 3D mode the unit will randomly switch back to 2D mode. Sometimes it won't let me switch back unless I power cycle the unit. This only happens during navigation, if I have no route planned it works fine.

The only bug on this thing that annoys the hell out of me is when using voice navigation in 3D mode the unit will randomly switch back to 2D mode. Sometimes it won't let me switch back unless I power cycle the unit. This only happens during navigation, if I have no route planned it works fine.

Hmmm... the description of your "bug" looks more like one of the option of "Autozoom" (or something like that),

when the next step of the navigation if in more than xx kilometers (meaning you have time till next instructions) it will switch to 2D mode (plan mode) until you approach your next point of instructions... (this is actually a good option since i wouldn't care about having a 3D view when it says "exit right in 60 kms"... the 2D mode is then more isnteresting at this point.

So you better check out the options... ?

It happens all the time I don't have to be anywhere near one of my turns. But I think I'll try switching that off to see if it fixes the problem (could be a bug with autozoom)

- not clearing the destination when we actually arrived at our destination ! (It's just annoying to touch the screen 4 times, with slow reaction, when we arrived at destination and need to stop the navigation !! 1) MENU > 2) NAVIGATION 3) CANCEL DESTINATION 4) CONFIRM !!! ...Annoying !!! ).

 

I admittedly am not on this forum as much as i should be, but this is the first time i have seen this mentioned, and i am glad i am not the only one..... that "bug" makes the Nav an absolute displeasure to use....

 

I'm still in amazement that these decks passed through Pioneer's QA department.... it's sad actually...

I concur, i have to "delete route" all the time to get it to shutup.

 

I concur, i have to "delete route" all the time to get it to shutup.

try turning off the master volume, it's great, i can set a route an no longer have the prompts.... i love it!

 

I concur, i have to "delete route" all the time to get it to shutup.

 

try turning off the master volume, it's great, i can set a route an no longer have the prompts.... i love it!

Are you kidding me? We want it to talk in use to promt us where to go. The complaint is that after you arrive at your destination it doens't clear itself and keeps telling you you've arrived.

Well...I just called pioneer today and they told me there is NO update coming or they (IE customer serivce) has not recieved word that a firmware update will be coming in octocber or anytime soon....

- muting (or reducing, depending on the option we set) the volume of the FM Radio when giving instrucitons for the navigation (it does it for the MP3 files, but looks like they forgot it when listening to simple FM radio !).

 

Already done. Goto the source menu switch to "off". Hit menu button>settings>av settings>Lower left button says something about ATT/mute. That button is the toggle between mute and att for nav directions but it can only be changed when the av source is switched off.

 

Nope, i know that, but that's not what i meant. When in the option menu you mentionned i select (for example) ATT (=attenuate), it will attenuate any mp3 file in order to hear the navigation instructions... HOWEVER, if i'm listening to FM Radio (with that same option) it WON'T attenuate the radio when giving the instructions...

at least, that's what happenned last time. i'll try again in the next few days.

 

Just tested it again today, and i confirm this bug on my unit. (firmware EU 1.0020).

 

When listening to FM Radio, and using NAVigation to somwhere, the nav instructions are set to a level VERY low (barely hearable), and no matter if i put the volume of the Radio to 62 or to 10, the level of the nav instructions stay the same (estimated to be around level 10 ??).

I did check the Audio configuration, moving the General and Audio Bar left to right... this doesn't change a thing to this bug :s

 

But again, when on SD/USB mp3s, this bug doesn't exist and volume of the nav will be xx level above the general volume (as set to be in the audio configuration).

you are not alone on this one. this is exactly the same problem i'm having. i stop listening to radio now when i have to use navigation...

Well...I just called pioneer today and they told me there is NO update coming or they (IE customer serivce) has not recieved word that a firmware update will be coming in octocber or anytime soon....

LMAO !!! DOH!!!

Well...I just called pioneer today and they told me there is NO update coming or they (IE customer serivce) has not recieved word that a firmware update will be coming in octocber or anytime soon....

I'm sorry, I just don't believe that to be true. No way Pioneer just leaves this as is. I'm more likely to believe the person you talked to has no idea what you're talking about...as is usually the case. They never know anything other than what's written in front of their face.

If it is true...they just sold a lot of units from other manufacturers...

Well...I just called pioneer today and they told me there is NO update coming or they (IE customer serivce) has not recieved word that a firmware update will be coming in octocber or anytime soon....

 

I'm sorry, I just don't believe that to be true. No way Pioneer just leaves this as is. I'm more likely to believe the person you talked to has no idea what you're talking about...as is usually the case. They never know anything other than what's written in front of their face.

 

If it is true...they just sold a lot of units from other manufacturers...

Well Thats what the person told me..I would only think that customers service would know something....but they did say that there was going to updates in the lifetime of the F-series but they aren't coming anytime soon.

I just called them again and the service technician told me that they have no ETA, but a month would be a good estimate. He could not give me any detailed information but said that the iPod stability and bluetooth were certainly concerns. Who knows??