I have read over pages of these forums to find the answer, and they all point to hookin up the AV cables.

I have my F90 installed, the RED, WHITE, YELLOw are hooked up to the cable that came with it

This big bulky cable in addition to:

The Single USB cable from the back left side (if you are facing the back of the unit

are running into my glovebox. I have my ipod there, hooked up to the bulky cable that has the ipod like connection.

I had an AVIC D3, and the cable had that same connection, you would plug it in and it worked immediately and perfectly. I plug it into this cable and it doesnt work at all.

I have AV1 set to IPOD.

How do I have to hook it up? If I use the cable that came from my ipod when I bought it, and plug that into the single USB cable, the art and everything shows up, but the sound does not play. Im assuming the ipod is supposed to be hooked up to the big black cable that came with the unit since it looks identical to the cable the D3 used.

Please help

AVIC -> CABLE with large adapter -> Ipod = nothing

AVIC -> USB CAble - > White cable that came with ipod = art and playlist, no music

Is my AVIC cable bad?

Sounds like your cable is bad (which is very common with the Pioneer cable).

Purchase Apple's Composite A/V cable kit and you should be set.

would this cable work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPod-Composit ... 240%3A1308

That looks like a cheap aftermarket/3rd party cable to me - definitely NOT an actual Apple cable.

I beleive that "style" is what you're after, but I would spend the fundage to purchase the official Apple one if it were me.

From reading your earlier posts, I wasn't completely sure: you ARE connecting BOTH the dock connector portion to the iPod itself AND the USB connection as well, yes?

Cheers,

Kevin

Spend the money to get a decent quality cable. The cheap ones are failing regularly, and even the official Pioneer cable is pretty crappy quality.

I agree, just get the Apple composite cable. Its expensive at 50 bucks, I had numerous problems with my Pioneer branded cable for the f series and had numerous problems with it, Apple one all those problems went away. Things like front/back ff etc with the ipod via PAC remote, and charging of the iphone 3g. None of those worked before but do without any sort of hickup or issues now.

I keep having my iPod drop about once a day on bootup. It has not dropped WHILE using the unit, yet. All control functions work fine, etc. It still pisses me off that i have to unplug and reconnect the USB when it does that, I mean, there's no chip or anything in the cable is there? What effect should unplugging and plugging it back in have to do with the physical connection with the iPod. I could see if it was on the dock connector side with all the pins it has and some being faulty or w/e, but it will also reestablish connection by pulling out and reconnecting on the USB side, which tells me that this problem is more software oriented. My Kenwood 8120 that I still have on hand never once dropped my iPod in five months of using it. I also don't want to have to go out and blow another $50 on an Apple composite cable just to have it work fine for 2 days then start dropping the damn connection again. Damn... so conflicted.

You know you could buy it just to test it out, if it doesntt work return it no harm done

Has anyone used say the official cable and NEVER had a dropout? That's what I would like to know. My new 700BT went 4 days after installing it to start this dropout BS again. I got a 700BT last June when they came out and it would drop it all the time (more than now), and it didn't make a difference if I used the regular USB cable with no audio from the iPod or the Pioneer one. It just seems odd that the iPod gets a little more reliable with each FW release, and yet everyone still suspects the cable. If someone can tell me that the Apple composite cable is a 100% fix and they have been using it day in and day out for a week or more, I'd be happy to go get it. I got my current 700BT the Wednesday before Halloween and it didn't drop the pod til 4 days after I bought it.

Right now, I'm trying to decide about which unit to keep and which to sell. I love the VR and ergonomics of the Pioneer over the KW, but the Kenwood's UI is much, much faster, and Garmin has better TTS and the unit as a whole does EVERYTHING it's supposed to do and very well. Except look as good as the Pioneer.

Mine doesn't drop out with the Pioneer cable

Mine drops out quite regularily, with the Pioneer cable. I am going to switch to the Apple cable once I get my hands on the SWI-PS module too. No point taking my dash apart twice...

What I found just now while fiddling around with it in the car, I got in, turned on the unit and watched the iPod and the unit dropped it on boot like it has been doing. I noticed that the thing sends a wake up command to make the screen on the iPod light up and then immediately the unit sends the iPod into the "Pioneer" screen mode. Though, I noticed the iPod was still booting up when the avic dropped the ipod. I think what is happening here is that the iPod is not booting quick enough/the Avic is sending the control command too quickly here. Like the Avic says "wake up" to the iPod and then sends the control command through, but it goes unnoticed by the iPod if it is still booting up, so the iPod just sits there at the normal menu once booted. Once the iPod was woken up, the Avic picked up the iPod every time i tried after that.

It seems that the only time the Avic drops the iPod is after every time everything has been sitting for a while and the iPod needs a few extra seconds to spin up and get going.

Mike that seems to be the same thing that is happening for me as well.

That is possible, only fix then I guess would be to leave it unplugged or wake the ipod up first before the f series is powered on. But I have had much better results with the apple cable then with the Pioneer one, so maybe its defective, who knows. But I am not willing to pay Pioneer for another one, when my current apple cable works great, and the former pioneer one did not. You can definately tell the build quality of the apple one is far superior and more rugged, granted the cable doesn't have the latches to keep it secure. But I haven't had any issues. Glad someone gave that tip, who would of thought an apple branded cable would be identical to the pioneer one for the f series.

My IPOD 80gb all of a sudden will not work on bootup of the F90 whereas it would work for a week at a time. Once it stops working, it will CONSTANTLY not work at bootup. I'll have to unplug and re-plug the cable and it pisses me off to no end. I am amazed that pioneer was able to release this product to the public.

My IPOD 80gb all of a sudden will not work on bootup of the F90 whereas it would work for a week at a time. Once it stops working, it will CONSTANTLY not work at bootup. I'll have to unplug and re-plug the cable and it pisses me off to no end. I am amazed that pioneer was able to release this product to the public.

Do you ever have anything positive to say?

I switched out my Pioneer cable for the Apple cable, it's only been a couple of days but it hasn't cut out once yet. Along with my new phone, everything works together perfectly now.

My 30GB 5G iPod Video drops half the time upon bootup. What kind of 80GB iPod do you have Brad?

On a side note, I used my brother's 80GB iPod CLASSIC on my Pioneer the other night and it never dropped once. Ever. Here's what I did. I hooked the iPod up to the Pioneer and started the car (Put it on ACC to be exact) and let the Pioneer boot to where I could see if it dropped the iPod or not. Then I shut the car off and let everything sit for about 15 seconds or so. I did this 15 times for each iPod. Out of 15 times, it dropped my 30GB 5G iPod video 8 of those times. Out of the 15 times on my brothers 80GB classic (Filled with 60GB of music/movies), the Pioneer NEVER once dropped the iPod. So I will be buying an iPod Classic 120GB soon.

No dropouts on my 80 gig still. Using the Pioneer cable

What type of 80GB do you have? Classic or regular 5th gen?

My IPOD 80gb all of a sudden will not work on bootup of the F90 whereas it would work for a week at a time. Once it stops working, it will CONSTANTLY not work at bootup. I'll have to unplug and re-plug the cable and it pisses me off to no end. I am amazed that pioneer was able to release this product to the public.

 

Do you ever have anything positive to say?

 

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No I don't have anything positive to say about this product, and it wasn't the cable. The IPOD will not initialize about 99 percent of the time on my system with the SD card inserted.

Like I said before, this is a problems/troubleshooting forum. Don't read it if you don't like people complaining about problems constantly.

I still think this product is inferior and I will do everything in my power to stop as many people from buying it as possible.

Inferior product? with 2.0 update the f series blows anything else i've seen out of the water.

If you hate it so much why not get rid of it? Im sure ebay, amazon etc will sell no problem now. Unless of course its really not that bad and your just grumpy.

Ever think of trying a different ipod? Perhaps just leaving it unplugged and plug it in when you use it?

I remember the one time I had issues getting my iphone to connect via the cable, it was the iphone not the pioneer unit, I had to simply do a restart on the iphone, here I thought my Pioneer went bad or something, so I restarted it saying uh wtf? Who would of thought it was the iphone and not the pioneer head unit?

You didn't even say what you've tried to fix it, did you try another ipod and see if it does the exact same thing? if not, try that, perhaps you may be surprised.

I have no doubt there are differences between the dozen or so models of ipods on the market right now, so to expect something as complicated as the f series working absolutely perfect with every single ipod model all the time, with every f series unit, uh its not possible.

Instead of being a hater, and venting your frustrating constantly, why not uh try fixing the problem? Barrow a friends ipod, see if it does the same thing. if it doesn't now you know its unique to your ipods interface.

try reloading/restroign the software, try a ipod branded cable, do a factory reset on the unit by the reset button and reloading the default language.

Never know, this "inferior" state of the art product, maybe just work after all, for you and not just most everyone else.

I am experiencing this problem as well. I thought I was in the minority, figuratively and physically , I am glad others are experiencing this issues as well. I thought it was my iPod, since I purchase a refurn off eBay, so I had it replaced, that was not the case. I still experienced a drop maybe once or twice a day but nothing a little reaching into the glove box didn't fix. Today I come to realize the iPod cable is no longer working at all. I went to BestBuy and bought a brand new iPod just to cross the iPod off the list of potential problems and the unit did not detect the brand new iPod. Now, I am glad to see that the ultimate fix is the Apple Composite A/VCable so I just purchased it online from BestBuy, i'm about to go pick it up now. had another Pioneer iPod cable here so I figured I would take my dash apart and put on the new one but I won't even bother, i'll just use the Apple cable. Hopefully, that fixes the issues.

Mine doesn't drop out with the Pioneer cable

Same here.

I bought the Apple composite cable and for me it has actually been worse. It still drops the connection. It used to happen with the pioneer cable but it has been happening a lot more with the apple cable.

I am considering putting the pioneer cable back in and just wait for the next update.

Dave

Pioneer cable still working fine. 30gig video ipod from about 2 years ago.