Does this thing work or not? I've found inconclusive evidence so far on this forum.. I e-mailed Pac-Audio and their repsonse was

" Currently the unit is not compatible with the Avic unit but some users on avic411.com report it does with the new update, an updated unit is scheduled to be released by the end of the year"

I'm trying to install my new 90bt in a 06 Titan LE with the Rockford system, and a little scared. I might just wait until the new PAc unit comes out. Is there another alternative?

I'm also trying to find the stock double din radio bezel that i found searching around this forum but the part number is wrong and I can't find it on http://www.factorynissanparts.com/partl ... eid=214081

Thanks ,

y

I just found this under trouble shooting.

We (PAC) are trying to get feedback on the incompatibility issues right now.WE know it not to be 100% compatible at this time, meaning it will not do the presets. We are hearing that it does work.Im assuming the people that say it does work, their cars arent equipt with presets on the steering wheel.

If you having problems please let me know the vehicle year and what its not doing.

FYI, we are releasing a new revision, sometime after CES, so i suggest not buying the new SWI-PS till then if you are having problems.The piece will also retain factory bluetooth if equipt.

Mario

Sales/Techinical

I just completed an install of the F90BT and the SWI-PS in to an 07 Civic Si.

My findings are as follows:

The SWI-PS DOES work with the F90BT, but does not work well. Others may have had a better experience, and I'm not sure if my problems are caused by the SWI-PS, the AVIC, or a combination of the two.

There is a rather noticeable delay between when a button is pressed and when the AVIC responds. Sometimes when pressing a button only once (volume), it isn't recognized at all. After holding the volume button down and releasing, the AVIC will continue the turn the volume up for a second or two before stopping.

It's better than nothing, but not perfect by any means.

I called pac technical support and while the swi-ps does work with the f90bt it does not fully function properly. fm presets do not work and some other issues.

Pac told me there is a new piece that will be out within 90 days that will work with our units.. Only problem is probally another $50 out of our pockets for it.

I just completed an install of the F90BT and the SWI-PS in to an 07 Civic Si.

My findings are as follows:

 

The SWI-PS DOES work with the F90BT, but does not work well. Others may have had a better experience, and I'm not sure if my problems are caused by the SWI-PS, the AVIC, or a combination of the two.

 

There is a rather noticeable delay between when a button is pressed and when the AVIC responds. Sometimes when pressing a button only once (volume), it isn't recognized at all. After holding the volume button down and releasing, the AVIC will continue the turn the volume up for a second or two before stopping.

 

It's better than nothing, but not perfect by any means.

x2

guess I'll take apart my dash again when they come out with the updated part. Thanks all.

y

I just completed an install of the F90BT and the SWI-PS in to an 07 Civic Si.

My findings are as follows:

 

The SWI-PS DOES work with the F90BT, but does not work well. Others may have had a better experience, and I'm not sure if my problems are caused by the SWI-PS, the AVIC, or a combination of the two.

 

There is a rather noticeable delay between when a button is pressed and when the AVIC responds. Sometimes when pressing a button only once (volume), it isn't recognized at all. After holding the volume button down and releasing, the AVIC will continue the turn the volume up for a second or two before stopping.

 

It's better than nothing, but not perfect by any means.

Same findings in my 08 STI. Laggy etc with my F700BT.

i was wonderin' about that delay... shame we already spent $50 on this one... surely its sellable on ebay

I had mine installed at a shop and everything works fine but for some reason the weren't able to get the mute button to work with my steering wheel mute. It's not a huge problem, but sure would have been nice as I occasionally like to use that option.

Anybody heard any updates on the updated unit?

Just installed mine yesterday along with F900BT/GEX-P10HD HD Radio tuner. Same problem. Pressing and releasing the button quickly is not recognized by the SWI-PS/900BT. When the button is held it jumps in volume quickly. I am getting used to it but is still not a clean operation as with the factory radio. The system was installed in an '05 F150.

Just installed mine yesterday along with F900BT/GEX-P10HD HD Radio tuner. Same problem. Pressing and releasing the button quickly is not recognized by the SWI-PS/900BT. When the button is held it jumps in volume quickly. I am getting used to it but is still not a clean operation as with the factory radio. The system was installed in an '05 F150.

Welcome to the group, we all have this issue.

I have a 08 Nissan Titan LE and used to have an Avic D3 installed, till someone went Christmas shopping in my truck.

Many of the people at http://www.titantalk.com use the factory XE double din radio face plate when installing a navigation system. Being an LE though you need the one with the readout for the dual climate controls. The XE bezel probably won't have that. So, your next best option is http://www.BESTKITS.COM. They make some of the higher quality bezels of any aftermarket company. Just wish they would make a bezel for the 08 Titans. They just came out with one that will fit your 06.

Bunk454 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject:

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I just completed an install of the F90BT and the SWI-PS in to an 07 Civic Si.

My findings are as follows:

The SWI-PS DOES work with the F90BT, but does not work well. Others may have had a better experience, and I'm not sure if my problems are caused by the SWI-PS, the AVIC, or a combination of the two.

There is a rather noticeable delay between when a button is pressed and when the AVIC responds. Sometimes when pressing a button only once (volume), it isn't recognized at all. After holding the volume button down and releasing, the AVIC will continue the turn the volume up for a second or two before stopping.

It's better than nothing, but not perfect by any means.

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Just had the Avic 900BT installed in my 07 EX Civic Sedan and the installer only programed the buttons to do the volume and track-up function... I asked him if he could also program the steering wheel controls for the presets but he said it wasn't possible. Bunk454 were you able to program your steering wheel controls to do the track up/down and presets ? I'd love to be able to control both track up/down and the presets like it was when it was stock.

Floppy187,

In my F150 the steering wheel radio control buttons could be assigned to ANY of the functions available through the SWI-PS used for the control of the radio. Doing a quick search on the pac-audio site turned up the folowing instructions for your car.

Sounds like the installer didn't know how to set it up or the function combination you were looking for is not available...the specific setup instructions are found on THIS PAGE

You can see that all of the following options are available when installed properly in your 07 Civic (taken from the linked page):

Programming order for

SWI-PS

N/A

1 Volume Up

2 Volume Down

3 Mute

4 Track Up/ Seek Up

5 Track Down/ Seek Down

6 Source

7 Preset Up/ Disc Up

8 Preset Down/ Disc Down

9 Band

Most likely they didn't know how to skip functions to get to the preset up/down functions you were asking for, or that because those buttons are set to track/seek-up/down function they cannot be reused for a separate function (preset/disc-up/down) as shown in the list. Unfortunately the track/preset-up/down combination is not an option on the SWI-PS.

If you follow the setup instructions that I linked to above you can set the function you want the button to perform regardless of what it was used for with the original radio.

Hope that helps,

Matt

I have the SWI-PS and it works fine for me .... now.

The "key beep delete" (search for it) mod made a HUGE difference in button responsiveness. Now the steering wheel controls respond much like OEM.

A couple of notes after the mod, though:

Holding down Vol Up or Vol Down buttons still sometimes makes the volume "run". But this only happens when I hold the button down for a long time (more than a couple of seconds). If I tap the button or just hold it down briefly, it responds right away and as expected (increment/decrement volume by 1 unit with a tap, by a few units with a brief button hold).

Mute/unmute works fine (and yes, I do have the hardwire bypass with the mute wire moved), but it takes barely a tap. Hold it down for more than a tap and it doesn't work.

Other than that, I'm a WHOLE lot happier with responsiveness after the "key beep delete" mod.

EDIT: Here's a brief rundown on "key beep delete" (thanks to Stephanie and the ohter posters on this)...

There are 8 files in the folder (DATA\Sound). The 40KB files to be deleted are:

PSG1Hi

PSG2Hi

PSG1Low

PSG2Low

The other files (PSG3, PSG4, PSG5, VR) can be left alone.

My experience: when I deleted these files, besides getting rid of the annoying key beeps, no adverse effects were noted and my steering wheel controls responded MUCH better (as noted previously by others)...

I currently have a SWI-PS in my '98 Neon, running to my 790BT. I have many of the same issues. Sometimes my volume/track select buttons work great, sometimes I have a delay. I have mine set up to do Volume up/down, track up/dn (or station up/dn manual), mute and source. My 90BT should be here on the 8th, so I will start the install then.

I really wish I could program the current source button to activate the voice recognition, tho.

Jay

I just completed an install of the F90BT and the SWI-PS in to an 07 Civic Si.

My findings are as follows:

 

The SWI-PS DOES work with the F90BT, but does not work well. Others may have had a better experience, and I'm not sure if my problems are caused by the SWI-PS, the AVIC, or a combination of the two.

 

There is a rather noticeable delay between when a button is pressed and when the AVIC responds. Sometimes when pressing a button only once (volume), it isn't recognized at all. After holding the volume button down and releasing, the AVIC will continue the turn the volume up for a second or two before stopping.

 

It's better than nothing, but not perfect by any means.

I called PAC about these issue and they said there is no firmware or issues, and that 99% are user related. Not sure if thats true, but I bought a unit from a local dealer, and installed it in my 2003 4Runner and it works as stated with only a minimal delay, but works fine.

Also one question I had was my sterring wheel button illumination was gone, and that PAC install does restore that as well.

I only have 5 buttons anyway, but I have vol +/- and track +/- and source which all do what I expected.

Just an FYI - I have the SWI-PS on my AVIC-Z3 and have all the same problems desribed - especially the slow response and the volume running like crazy with just the touch of the vol button -

Is there any form of this "key beep delete" mod for the AVIC series - wonder if the deleted files are the same in the AVIC filesystem structure..?? anyone know?

So everybody knows, we, PAC, have did our best to remedy most of the concerns of the SWI-PS. Unfortunately the preset signal is no longer sent to the wired remote input, so there is no fix for that. As far as the delay, if anybody understands how this part works, it has to recieve and change the input signal to a useable data signal accepted by the Pioneer.Somethings cannot be changed on our end and we do the best we can.

Fo those that are complaining about spending $50 on this part, you are probably not buying form a authorized dealer since this part retails for $89.99.Most of those sales were probably eBay sales in which PAC will not honor any issues or old revisions with those parts.

PAC

If i cant get my presets to work through my steering wheel controls then i am not buying a avic f90bt or any other pac audio products. I will stick with my D3 then.

They will not work.period.

Everybody please understand, PAC does only what it can with what is given to work with.Pioneer changed the inputs to the wired remote input on the rear of the radio.There is NOTHING that can be done on our side about that.

Hope I didn't coming off as complaining. I was just stating facts and also stated that I was getting used to it.

I am going to try the beep delete trick to see if it helps.

I bought mine from Crutchfield

Mine looks different from the one pictured in the example shown on their site. it is housed in a smaller blue plastic box. Just figured it was a newer revision of the adapter.

Mine looks different from the one pictured in the example shown on their site. it is housed in a smaller blue plastic box. Just figured it was a newer revision of the adapter.

has anybody tried this with a scion?