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Back-up Camera Experiences

By theorangeman · Nov 28, 2008in General💬 30 posts👁️ 6,096 views
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 · 14:43 UTC#1

I had an F90BT installed a couple of weeks ago and am very happy with it, despite a few quirks here and there. I'm now considering installing a back-up camera but I have a few questions before doing so:

 

1. Is the back-up camera really worth it? That is, besides being pretty cool to have, have you found much value in having it?

 

2. Is the back-up camera always the first thing to appear when turning the car on? Is there an icon or button to push to show the back-up camera image or does it automatically show up EVERY time the car is in reverse? The reason I ask is that if the camera screen was automatic, this would probably get on my nerves because I know occasionally I wouldn't want to use it and would rather have the map or XM screen be on rather than the back-up camera.

 

3. How fast does it boot up and show on the screen? It would sort of defeat the purpose if it has a long boot up time requiring me to sit in my parking space for a while.

 

4. Is this fairly easy to install? If I did this, I would have a shop do the install in my Chevy Equinox; however, if this is a timely/expensive installation I might elect not to do it because I don't want to keep pouring more and more cash into this unit. $50 or so for the install I could stomach, but probably not much more.

 

5. Are all back-up cameras pretty much the same for the most part? The reason I ask is that I have one that I got for free, but I don't have much information regarding the camera. Anyone have any experience with the BOYO VTK-350 camera?

Posted Nov 28, 2008 · 15:00 UTC#2

I just installed the Boyo VTK-350 in my Altima; here is my experience.

 

The Avic needs at least 5 seconds after the screen turns on before you throw it in reverse; if you start backing down before that, it may not see the reverse signal and just not give you the image. This is no problem for me since I always wait a good 20-30 seconds after cranking the engine before doing anything.

 

The camera itself was pretty simple install but positioning is a real bitch since i didn't have a lot of room to work with for my Altima. Make sure you ran the wire from the +12v reverse signal to your Avic or it will work.

 

You can manually activate the camera by going to "Source" and tapping Rearview in the upper/right hand corner.

 

I installed the camera for my wife; certainly not myself because I can just turn my neck to look out the back glass. She is happy with it.

 

My only complaint is how long the camera is; it sticks out too far and as such I will probably go and install a small camera if I can find one.. but thats another day down the road.

 

Don't forget you'll need a +12v source for the camera when you install it.

Posted Nov 28, 2008 · 17:04 UTC#3

1) Yes I think it's worth it especially if you are towing something, you get a better view of what you're towing, plus it gives you a better rear view than you get from your mirrors.

 

2) There's a short start-up screen that comes up for about 5 sec. then the camera comes on automatically everytime the vehicle is placed in reverse. I haven't found this to be an issue because it takes about that long to get myself buckled in etc. The camera can be accessed and viewed anytime through the source menu.

 

3) See #2

 

4) Install can be a bit of a challange depending on your vehicle, it involves running the leads all the way from the back of the vehicle to the front, pulling the deck to access the camera video in connection, connecting the switched power, ground, and reverse signal wires. I did all this myself, so I can't really say what an installer would charge you.

 

5) For the most part they're all about the same. some have better picture quality than others. The Pionner ND-BC20PA which is the one I installed has even more features, but is pretty pricey. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... /ND-BC20PA

Posted Nov 28, 2008 · 17:36 UTC#4

I could not justify $200 on a backup camera. I ended getting one on ebay for $10 from some place in china. I mounts on the license plate and works great. My friend who owns a car stereo shop could not believe how good it is for $10 and if it breaks I will just buy another one

Posted Nov 29, 2008 · 06:30 UTC#5
I could not justify $200 on a backup camera. I ended getting one on ebay for $10 from some place in china. I mounts on the license plate and works great. My friend who owns a car stereo shop could not believe how good it is for $10 and if it breaks I will just buy another one

 

Do you have a model number or link for that?

Posted Nov 29, 2008 · 16:37 UTC#6

I am very pleased with my back up camera. I bought it at a local shop and it was very easy to install in my Nissan Frontier. I had to fabricate an aluminum bracket because I have tube bumpers on the truck... But it is mounted right next to the licene plate.

I am not sure what the brand is, but it is a flush mount camera with IR LED's around the outside of the lens. It is entirely sealed and gives great color video day and works well even at night.

I will see if I can find the information for it. The cost was $95 and it came with the cables and a large drill bit for cutting the hole.

Posted Jan 07, 2009 · 16:16 UTC#7

Hello - anyone try these cheaper cameras on ebay. I am currently considering this one:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-REAR-VIEW-BACKU ... dZViewItem

 

 

However, I have some reservations given that it's a CMOS technology.

Posted Jan 07, 2009 · 18:31 UTC#8

I like mine, but I have timed it many times at 10 seconds before it comes on. I usually start backing out quickly, and so its pretty useless for most things. Occasionally if I am parallel parking or in a tricky backup situation I will wait. My wife's OEM system in her Murano comes on within 1 second. I am really disappointed in my reverse camera.

Posted Jan 07, 2009 · 20:11 UTC#9

I got a Boyo VTL420 for about $80, and it gives a great picture, even in dark. That said, I might have been just as happy with a cheaper camera. It's not like I need to see behind my truck in hi-def; as long as it has a picture of some sort and works in the dark, it'll do.

Posted Jan 07, 2009 · 20:42 UTC#10

Do all AVIC's suffer from the delay? I have D2. Thanks for the info on VTL 420 - seems like a good price

Posted Jan 07, 2009 · 21:00 UTC#11

Nope the Z series has great OEM style Back up camera functionality.

 

 

Meaning, after you crank the engine, the back up camera is activated instantly when you put it in Reverse and there is no delay.

Posted Jan 08, 2009 · 16:18 UTC#12

Quick question for those with VTL300 - How do I wire such that the camera is always accessible even though I may not be going reverse?

 

Thanks!

Posted Jan 08, 2009 · 19:11 UTC#13

sbkim,

 

If you would like the camera on all the time, even when you are not reversing, there is a button that lets you manually set the viewing screen to the review camera.

Posted Jan 08, 2009 · 20:01 UTC#14

nkosi - ok got it. I presume I will need to get power from 12v acc as opposed to from reverse light so it gets power all the time.

Posted Jan 08, 2009 · 23:38 UTC#15

SBKIM,

 

Yes, wire the camera's power to ACC. Also, make sure the pioneer wire marked reverse is tapped off of your car's reverse signal light, so that the HU knows to automatically switch to the camera when you are reversing.

Posted Jan 09, 2009 · 02:02 UTC#16
SBKIM,

 

Yes, wire the camera's power to ACC. Also, make sure the pioneer wire marked reverse is tapped off of your car's reverse signal light, so that the HU knows to automatically switch to the camera when you are reversing.

 

Got it - thank you so much!

Posted Jan 09, 2009 · 03:10 UTC#17
I got a Boyo VTL420 for about $80, and it gives a great picture, even in dark. That said, I might have been just as happy with a cheaper camera. It's not like I need to see behind my truck in hi-def; as long as it has a picture of some sort and works in the dark, it'll do.
Posted Jan 09, 2009 · 03:10 UTC#18
I got a Boyo VTL420 for about $80, and it gives a great picture, even in dark. That said, I might have been just as happy with a cheaper camera. It's not like I need to see behind my truck in hi-def; as long as it has a picture of some sort and works in the dark, it'll do.

 

be careful with those cheap cameras though. a lot of them do not reverse the image, so it makes backing up very awkward. i recommend whatever camera you purchase to make sure it has a reverse (or mirror) image.

i have the boyo mentioned and its quality is great even at night. backing into parking spaces like in a mall parking lot is sooooooooooooo much easier, almost fun. haven't had to parallel park yet though.

Posted Jan 10, 2009 · 02:30 UTC#19

im having difficulty wiring my boyo vtl420. do you ground to the chassis or what? its making me crazy.

Posted Jan 10, 2009 · 23:36 UTC#20

Ha - you and me both. I took 12+ and ground from the headunit.

 

My issue is that D2 won't automatically switch backup camera when put into reverse. I am having tough time figuring out where the reverse wire from D2 is going to (I didn't install the unit).

Posted Jan 12, 2009 · 18:24 UTC#21

Has anyone tried splicing a factory back-up camera and connecting it to the F-series?

 

I have an '08 f-150 and the camera comes up in the rear view mirror when I reverse, would be cool if I could use that and view it through the F-series.

Posted Jan 12, 2009 · 18:48 UTC#22

I have no experience with the Chevy camera. But a friend of mine is using his OEM camera with the F series. He has a Toyota Tacoma. I will ask him how he did it.

Posted Jan 13, 2009 · 13:00 UTC#23
Has anyone tried splicing a factory back-up camera and connecting it to the F-series?

 

I have an '08 f-150 and the camera comes up in the rear view mirror when I reverse, would be cool if I could use that and view it through the F-series.

 

Try using a 1 in 2 out Video Signal amplifier. A unit like this is usually used to take a video signal and run it to multiple headrest monitors. It should work pretty well for what you are trying to do. Plus, it is really inexpensive. Check out the link to one below. It only cost $14.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... R&v=glance

Posted Jan 14, 2009 · 04:39 UTC#24
Hello - anyone try these cheaper cameras on ebay. I am currently considering this one:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-REAR-VIEW-BACKU ... dZViewItem

 

 

However, I have some reservations given that it's a CMOS technology.

 

just bought mine today off ebay. i will send an update soon as i see what's going on with the product. so far i've read the feedback on these items and they just seem to get pretty good reviews

Posted Jan 15, 2009 · 19:20 UTC#25

I am interested in the ebay version too. Let us know how it works out.

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