you are missing the point for the people who paid $1200 or more pre 2.0 are pissed off at pioneer for being a beta tester for them when they should have gotten a working unit. they stuck by through all the shit and now have to pay?

 

anyways there will be a torrent so i will not loose sleep

true. retail on it is $1200. some people bought it right when it came out and paid over $1000 easy. if i was 1 of them id be extremely pissed to have tp pay for a bs update that shouldnt be necessary if they had tested it enough

anyways there will be a torrent so i will not loose sleep

I agree - If there is to be an update it will be floating around in Cyberspace sooner or later for free. And with all the info and help in this forum I'm sure there will also be a tutorial on how to install it.

Again, depending on price of update, if they decide to go that route we could all chip-in and buy one then share it. Like it was done with the service manual.

Again, depending on price of update, if they decide to go that route we could all chip-in and buy one then share it. Like it was done with the service manual.

If this is a dramatic improvement update, I'll throw down, otherwise my 90 will be for sale come June (9140 release). Maybe what we need is a GB list of those who will chip in to get one update on the forum. The more people, the less $$ per person.

Yea, I think Im going for the 9140 as well. I would like to see what the update will bring to the table though.

No way they'd charge for just some bug fixes (not even sure if that's legal) so I'd expect it would have to have some new features if not just some updated maps which just about any nav company charges for.

Does anyone have any info on the F910BT? I can't seem to find any information when searching on the net for it.

I'd chip in

I'd definately wait to see how much it costs and whether it's worth. Also whether it will be modable. Otherwise I'd rather pay Leetcoder since he's showing much more effort in getting the junk software into a useful and flexible piece of kit then the Pioneer people. Wait until he manages to sort out the pioneer code, then we'll run any navigation software with bluetooth and AV functionality in full.

Who would you pay on this case?

God help you Leet.

So is this a firmware update for existing hardware OR a whole new unit?

When a new model number comes out like 910, to me that sounds like a new hardware platform. Hopefully a firmware update will be available for the legacy users, but it still may not be exactly the same as running on the new deck with more powerful processing.

So is this a firmware update for existing hardware OR a whole new unit?

Both, it will bring the current units to the new software. There is no indication that there will be any hardware advances to accompany the new model number units. This is the same that we have seen with all three Z series units up to date.

This is the same that we have seen with all three Z series units up to date.

Ah, got it. Thank you.

This news came out today about the new F9110BT:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.ph ... unit.phtml

so, anybody has info about hardware diff, and way for move software from f900 to f910 ?

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/25/1 ... specs.html

also, looking service manual

Hi all,

I am one of the Porsche guys! LOL!!!!! Back in May 2008 I ordered one F900 to install in my P-car. I got tired of waiting for it and scared of receiving it, after I read this site. Soooooo.... I got me a MAX983HD. Guess waht? Installed it in August 2008 and it has been working flawless since then. Only bug noted so far: an occasional reboot when of the first start of the day (it has happened maybe 4-5 times). And that's it. All the rest just works as described in the adverts and in the manual, as simple as that.

That's probably the reason why there is no user run forum for Clarion products. Get one, ebay your f-series and start enjoying the navigation facility, music, DVDs, whatever, instead of browsing the net looking for solutions. I do enough of that for my Windows PCs already!