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AVIC F90BT vs Kenwood DNX9140

By nkosi · Mar 02, 2009in General💬 52 posts👁️ 12,843 views
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Posted May 24, 2009 · 19:17 UTC#26
can you plz post your youtube link and intsall pics and review? I been searching EVERYWHERE fora review :@

 

This thing is expensive.. $1799 USD.... thats like 2k CDN.. my god.

 

Guys sorry, I didn't realize you couldn't post videos to youtube that were over 10 minutes long. I will be doing another video late tonight when I return from work. I will post it as soon as I can.

Posted May 24, 2009 · 20:48 UTC#27

Just break up the videos into different parts.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 04:40 UTC#28

Yea, over the next hour I will be recording two vids, one for audio source voice recognition and the second will be the nav voice recognition features. I hope to get them uploaded tonight but they take a while to upload, stay tuned, I will post the links as soon as Im done. Also, there does seem to be some minor bugs with the unit and I will be pointing them out in the vids. Nothing to real bad though, certainly not as bad as the F series pre 2.0.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 04:47 UTC#29
Yea, over the next hour I will be recording two vids, one for audio source voice recognition and the second will be the nav voice recognition features. I hope to get them uploaded tonight but they take a while to upload, stay tuned, I will post the links as soon as Im done. Also, there does seem to be some minor bugs with the unit and I will be pointing them out in the vids. Nothing to real bad though, certainly not as bad as the F series pre 2.0.

 

Stop teasing us :(

Posted May 25, 2009 · 05:21 UTC#30

I know... its a horrible wait!! J/k :lol:

Posted May 25, 2009 · 06:28 UTC#31

Alright vids are done. Unfortunately sense they are done at night the video quality is not very good but you will certainly get the idea. There uploading now, I will post the links when done.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 07:00 UTC#32

Here is the first vid, enjoy.

 

Posted May 25, 2009 · 07:07 UTC#33

And now the second.

 

Posted May 25, 2009 · 13:12 UTC#34

Thanks for posting the videos. I had read the Kenwood quickstart online and it described only the voice commands that you demonstrated. Should I assume that "Play Artist" and "Play Album" don't work and you must search by letter and give a line number? Also, I know it comes with a wireless remote, and a wired voice button. Is there a voice button on the wireless remote? Is there a voice button on the unit itself?

Posted May 25, 2009 · 15:59 UTC#35

Thanks for the post. Very informative. Have you been able to find a sight/forum dedicated to the Kenwood DNX? That would be the cherry on top, to have a user community as good as the AVIC community.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 18:06 UTC#36
Should I assume that "Play Artist" and "Play Album" don't work and you must search by letter and give a line number? Also, I know it comes with a wireless remote, and a wired voice button. Is there a voice button on the wireless remote? Is there a voice button on the unit itself?

 

Yes that is correct. You can not say, "Play Billy Idol" You have to search by artist, album, playlist, ect. and choose your options by line number. And yes, there is a voice button on the wireless remote that comes with the unit.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 18:06 UTC#37
Thanks for the post. Very informative. Have you been able to find a sight/forum dedicated to the Kenwood DNX? That would be the cherry on top, to have a user community as good as the AVIC community.

 

No none Kenwood community at this time.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 18:25 UTC#38

Correct me if I'm wrong but this unit has MSN direct? If so, how is this feature?

Posted May 25, 2009 · 18:51 UTC#39

Yes it does support MSN DIRECT but it requires a additional module that connects inline through the FM antenna. The item is yet to be released. Below is the link from Kenwood's site.

 

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertain ... s/KNA-M100

Posted May 25, 2009 · 19:40 UTC#40

hey VBLUE, i posted this on your video but a few questions...

 

1.) What ipod did you use ?

2.) Did video work from the ipod?

3.) Does this unit support videos from USB/SD? Or still just MP3?

4.) How much did you end up paying for this? Is it worth the major $$$? Do you recommend others wait for the price to drop in a few months? (I doubt it will drop that much anyways.

Posted May 26, 2009 · 04:46 UTC#41

Posted reply to vid. Ipod 160GB, yes for vid, no chapter markers and no restart were you left off for video, no vid from USB or SD, audio only for USB, 1500.00 bucks.

Posted May 26, 2009 · 13:06 UTC#42

Thanks for posting the vids... They are very helpful in making a decision on the unit.

 

I've gotta say I'm pretty disappointed in the voice command. I don't really see the point of having voice command if you still have to look at the screen to direct the unit (line1, line3, etc.). It's especially disappointing that it doesn't understand name/number inputs for addresses. Even my old Z2 does this (and does it well).

 

Is there any way around the track skipping lag? Can you disable the album art, or find any other workaround? That is a pretty big issue for me, and reeks of a forced early release.

 

 

I guess what has the potential to set this unit apart from the F-Series is Kenwood's support. If they jump on the track skipping delay issue (and the GPS firmware update message issue), I will be impressed. I sincerely hope they do not drag their feet and release a half-assed fix like Pioneer did for the F-Series.

 

A couple of general questions, if you don't mind:

Have you noticed any menu lag at all?

I assume this unit can use XM or Sirius Traffic instead of MSN Direct?

It's hard to see the screen in the vid, but is there any way to skip a track while viewing the map screen (without using the steering wheel buttons)?

 

Thanks in advance for your help. I really appreciate the videos and the information.

 

Dave

Posted May 26, 2009 · 15:22 UTC#43

Awww I can't stand to watch the video, the responsiveness! The lack of crashes! I want one so badly, I have already blown 1000 bucks on my AVIC-F....

 

It was supposed to work like this. Damn you Pioneer! :evil:

Posted May 26, 2009 · 17:49 UTC#44
It's especially disappointing that it doesn't understand name/number inputs for addresses.

 

I did state that in the vid but I was mistaken, It does allow full voice control to enter address.

 

 

Is there any way around the track skipping lag? Can you disable the album art, or find any other workaround? That is a pretty big issue for me, and reeks of a forced early release.

 

I will be calling Kenwood today about this.

 

A couple of general questions, if you don't mind:

Have you noticed any menu lag at all?

 

No.

 

 

I assume this unit can use XM or Sirius Traffic instead of MSN Direct?

 

I believe it does, check the Kenwood site for details.

 

 

It's hard to see the screen in the vid, but is there any way to skip a track while viewing the map screen (without using the steering wheel buttons)?

 

Only from the supplied remote control.

Posted May 26, 2009 · 18:17 UTC#45
Is there any way around the track skipping lag? Can you disable the album art, or find any other workaround?

 

Dave

 

Just called Kenwood about the minor issues I have found. As always when I have talked to them, the rep was very receptive and I could hear what sounded like him typing up the issues I have found to be looked into. I will report back here when I receive a response.

Posted May 26, 2009 · 18:46 UTC#46
I've gotta say I'm pretty disappointed in the voice command. I don't really see the point of having voice command if you still have to look at the screen to direct the unit (line1, line3, etc.)

 

Well in my case, as I stated in the vid, I never could get the F series to work at all for voice control of my ipod. So what the Kenwood offers is a welcome site and is apparently flawless in the way it works. If you have seen success with the F series voice ipod control, I can see how this may not be impressive.

Posted May 26, 2009 · 20:31 UTC#47

Thanks for the videos - I see that this unit is fairly glitchy as the F series was at first - so there will likely be a forum starting soon.

 

I prefer the F Series voice control for the iPod - much better (I have a old utube video that shows the voice control of the ipod much better than the kenwood) - the nav in the kenwood is very cool - I give it points for that and the bigger screen is also very cool. For once though my F900 boots way faster.

 

In all though - I do not see this as blowing away the F Series - many people may not like the F Series - but hey it has been out way longer than the Kenwood - so I've enjoyed bluetooth, iPod voice control/video, navigation etc for almost 2 years. Does the kenwood support a cd changer? That would be nice.

 

Thanks,

Posted May 27, 2009 · 02:22 UTC#48

I sensed some demand for a forum for the DNX units, so I created one here: http://www.kenwoodforums.com

 

I'm not trying to detract from avic411 at all--this site is amazing, and will always continue to be the leader for avic information. But I've seen several posts about the lack of a forum for the kenwoods, so I thought I'd throw one up. It's pretty basic for now, but as the user base grows, I'll customize it more.

 

As an aside, I still haven't received my DNX9140, but I will post a review on here when I get it.

 

Dave

Posted May 27, 2009 · 03:00 UTC#49
I sensed some demand for a forum for the DNX units, so I created one here: http://www.kenwoodforums.com

 

I'm not trying to detract from avic411 at all--this site is amazing, and will always continue to be the leader for avic information. But I've seen several posts about the lack of a forum for the kenwoods, so I thought I'd throw one up. It's pretty basic for now, but as the user base grows, I'll customize it more.

 

As an aside, I still haven't received my DNX9140, but I will post a review on here when I get it.

 

Dave

 

Dodgeboy,

 

Let me be the first to thank you :) Great idea !! Look forward to your post and reviews.

Posted May 27, 2009 · 03:57 UTC#50
I sensed some demand for a forum for the DNX units, so I created one here: http://www.kenwoodforums.com

 

AWESOME, thank you, I will be linking my vids and referencing this new forum as well.

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