I am an iPhone Dev, so I currently have access to the latest seed of the iPhone software. Previously, when running 2.1 my iPhone would complain that the "accessory" being connected wasn't compatible but things still worked just fine (played music, charged, etc). Now however, I don't get any message on the iPhone (other than it is charging) but the AVIC after about 10 seconds throws up a message saying "Unable to connect to iPod, please reconnect."

I've tried just about everything I could think of (disable bluetooth, enable airplane mode, fresh restart). So it looks like some of the changes Apple made with the 3.0 firmware have caused it to break compatibility with the AVIC and the iPod cables. If anyone here has contacts with Pioneer, I can supply a FEW copies of the firmware (I type in your device ID, and you can upgrade). Note that you can not downgrade back to 2.0 once you upgrade. I am not looking to just give out copies to everyone, but rather people that could actively work towards getting things up and going again.

Or if anyone has any thoughts on things to try, let me know.

thanks for the heads up man! I appreciate you looking out for us.

I know this is off topic but if I'm running an original 2G (silver back) iphone, am I going to be able to mms? I forgot what website said that only 3G users will get that benefit. you are welcome to PM me to keep this thread on topic.

Oh, and as an at&t employee, thank you for helping with iphone 3.0 software, it's already making people excited and I closed a few sales today with that knowledge.

am I going to be able to mms?

According to Apple, No.

am I going to be able to mms?

According to Apple, No.

any particular reason why not? I'm hi-jacking this thing! It's a bitter sweet hi-jack though, the more often I ask stupid questions the more likely someone from pioneer will see this

any particular reason why not? I'm hi-jacking this thing! It's a bitter sweet hi-jack though, the more often I ask stupid questions the more likely someone from pioneer will see this

Apple has said the 1st gen iphones will not be getting all of the updates that come in OS 3.0, more info is here:

http://i.gizmodo.com/5171796/iphone-30- ... ed-to-know?

yea i also tried the 3.0 on my f90bt and wouldnt play, it might be pioneer may need an update to suppose something new with the 3.0 or maybe its something apple has todo but nothing we can do :/

am I going to be able to mms?

According to Apple, No.

 

any particular reason why not? I'm hi-jacking this thing! It's a bitter sweet hi-jack though, the more often I ask stupid questions the more likely someone from pioneer will see this

It's called "planned obsolescence". You'll never see an iPhone with MicroSD slot for the exact same reason.

does the bluetooth still work with 3.0?

The funny thing is part of this 3.0 update is improved API support for 3rd party accesories... they showed off glucose monitor accessories and speaker docks with equalizers that can be controlled by an app in the 3.0 firmware preview. I was actually hoping the new firmware might give the AVIC's more control over the iPhone, if Pioneer (or someone in the hacking forum) was willing to make an app I think they could pretty easily add some awesome functionality. Guess I was wrong though.

I've been running 3.0 for 2 weeks now. I can report actually that I discovered a glitch which will screw up the interfacing with the F900. Initially immediately after I upgraded to 3.0 the audio was working, but I found the next day I was getting 'could not connect' errors. However, it seems I accidently stumbled upon a solution. Somehow if you move music around on the iphone, copy new albums, delete some, it gets the interface going again. After a second time having the issue, I did just that and voila, it was working again, fine for over a week. Now having gone to 3.0 beta 2 in the last 2 days I've found the issue has come back. So last night I had to recopy some music that I hadn't put back on the iphone yet, hopefully when I go out shortly it will be back functioning again. I'll confirm that it is or isn't shortly.

EDIT: confirmed, iphone ipod interface is working normally once again.

The funny thing is part of this 3.0 update is improved API support for 3rd party accesories... they showed off glucose monitor accessories and speaker docks with equalizers that can be controlled by an app in the 3.0 firmware preview. I was actually hoping the new firmware might give the AVIC's more control over the iPhone, if Pioneer (or someone in the hacking forum) was willing to make an app I think they could pretty easily add some awesome functionality. Guess I was wrong though.

Aren't you being a tad impatience. 3.0 beta and the new SDK have been out for a couple of weeks. I'm sure there are some people who would be keen to develop such apps, perhaps even Pioneer given time(certainly not going to happen overnight with them). As it stands there's still plenty of time for people to develop avic enhancing apps to be available when 3.0 is officially released in June...

I've been running 3.0 for 2 weeks now. I can report actually that I discovered a glitch which will screw up the interfacing with the F900. Initially immediately after I upgraded to 3.0 the audio was working, but I found the next day I was getting 'could not connect' errors. However, it seems I accidently stumbled upon a solution. Somehow if you move music around on the iphone, copy new albums, delete some, it gets the interface going again. After a second time having the issue, I did just that and voila, it was working again, fine for over a week. Now having gone to 3.0 beta 2 in the last 2 days I've found the issue has come back. So last night I had to recopy some music that I hadn't put back on the iphone yet, hopefully when I go out shortly it will be back functioning again. I'll confirm that it is or isn't shortly.

 

EDIT: confirmed, iphone ipod interface is working normally once again.

When you say move music around, do you mean like add/remove playlists in iTunes and then resync? And once you reconncet to the AVIC, things are good?

 

When you say move music around, do you mean like add/remove playlists in iTunes and then resync? And once you reconncet to the AVIC, things are good?

Correct. Be it playlist or however you have you music setup, in my case albums I manage manually and copy into a playlist on the iphone.

I've had zero hiccups since the initial repeat of the original connection issue after the beta 2 update nearly a week ago.

The new beta 3 is out and i think they fixed it cause it works for me now......i have a avic-z3 and also a 500bt or somethin liek that a regular pioneer radio that has a usb on it....and it didnt work w/ the original beta or beta 2........but now w/ the beta 3 it seems to work....minus the charging on the avic-z3 ......but the other works also charge and plays music......

The new beta 3 is out and i think they fixed it cause it works for me now......i have a avic-z3 and also a 500bt or somethin liek that a regular pioneer radio that has a usb on it....and it didnt work w/ the original beta or beta 2........but now w/ the beta 3 it seems to work....minus the charging on the avic-z3 ......but the other works also charge and plays music......

Jeez I'm a tad slow on that, I haven't read modmyi for 2 days and bingo beta 3. To me the test of beta 3 will be whether it works off the bat with my iphone and car interface. That was the previous issue, which as I've said can be worked around very easily.

The new beta 3 is out and i think they fixed it cause it works for me now......i have a avic-z3 and also a 500bt or somethin liek that a regular pioneer radio that has a usb on it....and it didnt work w/ the original beta or beta 2........but now w/ the beta 3 it seems to work....minus the charging on the avic-z3 ......but the other works also charge and plays music......

it CHARGES??? Sounds very interesting

The new beta 3 is out and i think they fixed it cause it works for me now......i have a avic-z3 and also a 500bt or somethin liek that a regular pioneer radio that has a usb on it....and it didnt work w/ the original beta or beta 2........but now w/ the beta 3 it seems to work....minus the charging on the avic-z3 ......but the other works also charge and plays music......

it CHARGES??? Sounds very interesting

I don't get it? what's so interesting about charging? I'd be really annoyed if mine didn't, but it always has on the avic ipod interface...

Well, the iphone 3G doesnt charge with the iphone cable. Playback still works though. See: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16474

Yes thats what i said my 3g does not charge in my avic-z3 but it plays the music now w/ the 3.0 software beta 3......it also works on my regular radio the 5000bt.......charges and plays music, but that unit uses a usb cable.......on beta 2 i was getting error19 ,,,,not anymore its been fixed......YAY

Well, the iphone 3G doesnt charge with the iphone cable. Playback still works though. See: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16474

Oh well mine has charged since day 1 of having a F900BT with ipod interface. Guess my Car audio guys did it properly...

3.0 beta 3 definitely causes no interface playback issues off the bat also which is nice, not that 1 or 2 have proven to be that huge a drama to work around, just a nuisance.

First post here. Have to say this site is very helpful and i'm still a noobie so I have to read a lot more.

Quick question though, does A2DP work with your system? Thx in advance

The reason i asked so is because if found a discussion on modmyi

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/iphone-news/563081-stream-audio-your-car-via-bluetooth-3-0-a.html

The reason i asked so is because if found a discussion on modmyi

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/iphone-news/563081-stream-audio-your-car-via-bluetooth-3-0-a.html

Seen that and tried to see if it works on a Pioneer deck in another car that fully supports BT audio streaming, but bluetooth symbol doesn't come up on the ipod controls. This is quite odd as it goes against what the video on modmyi shows. I'm wondering if it's perhaps not released in the current beta of 3.0. On top of that I can't see any evidence that the F900BT has audio streaming capability, which in my case would be a highly redundant feature..

i watched that video a couple weeks ago and was dissappointed when i didn't see my little bluetooth icon near the volume control on the iphone. but after installing the latest iphone os 3.0 beta 3, my phone pairs up and gives me the little bluetooth icon allowing me to stream audio to my D3. now if they could improve the sound quality, it will be worth it. sounds very tinny to me.

i watched that video a couple weeks ago and was dissappointed when i didn't see my little bluetooth icon near the volume control on the iphone. but after installing the latest iphone os 3.0 beta 3, my phone pairs up and gives me the little bluetooth icon allowing me to stream audio to my D3. now if they could improve the sound quality, it will be worth it. sounds very tinny to me.

Ahh cool, I haven't tried beta 3 pairing yet, since I'm always using the connector in my main car. I also haven't been in my other car to use the deck in that to try it yet, but will do so when I get a chance. I'll test the F900 later as well just for kicks.