i want upgrade flash memory insyde avic-f90bt.
at this moment i has K9GAG08U0M-PIB0 2Gb, and i want repleace it to K9HCG08U1M-PIB0 8Gb.
so,
1) where i can find K9HCG08U1M-PIB0 for "I : Industrial (-40°C ~ 85°C)" ?
most flash has K9HCG08U1M-PCB0 chip inside "C : Commercial (0°C ~ 70°C)"
2) anybody has NAND dump from f90bt, or any way for dump it ?
3) anybody has info about JTAG test point ?
thanks
4) if anybody need, my collections of avic F-series manual
a) Pioneer AVIC-F500BT CRT4175 Service manual
AVIC-F500BT/XCN/EW5
AVIC-F500BT/XCN/UC
AVIC-F500BT/XCN/RE
AVIC-F500BT/XCN/AU
http://www.4shared.com/file/102630348/a ... 4175_.html
Pioneer CRT4157 Service Manual
AVIC-F700BT/XS/UC
AVIC-F7010BT/XS/UC
AVIC-F700BT/XS/EW5
http://www.4shared.com/file/102629831/d ... 4157_.html
Pioneer CRT3815 CX-3195 CD MECHANISM MODULE(S10.5COMP2)
http://www.4shared.com/file/102630371/f ... 3815_.html
c) Pioneer CRT4158 Service Manual
AVIC-F90BT/XS/UC
AVIC-F900BT/XS/UC
AVIC-F900BT/XS/AU
http://www.4shared.com/file/102630299/6 ... 4158_.html
d) Pioneer CRT4166 Service Manual
AVIC-F900BT/XS/EW5
AVIC-F900BT/XS/RE
http://www.4shared.com/file/102630083/9 ... 4166_.html
e) Pioneer CRT4238 Service Manual
AVIC-F900BT/XS/CN5
i want up this topic again 
tags: pioneer avic-f90bt avic-f900bt jtag pinouts
3) anybody has info about JTAG test point ?
i connect my avic-f90bt via JTAG to segger jlink
so, i use this pinouts at navi-board
📎 avic_f90bt_jtag.jpg
also, at this moment i can't make flash dump,
but i make dump from MSN Direct firmware flash
📎 pioneer avic-f90bt SST 34HF1641J dump.rar
5) looking for new version AtlasMgr, with SiRFtitan support, for my avic, like AtlasMgr 5.8.4 or newer.
📎 avic_f90bt_atlasmgr_v584.jpg
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6) if abybody need, i attach "pioneer avic-f90bt uboot.bin" file.
📎 pioneer avic-f90bt uboot.bin.gz
please, use it only with ida !!!.
don't make uboot.chk, and don't try load it to avic !!!
i need time for verify, i this this blue menu from avic (also in attach)
store in Spansion S29AL004D70BF102 chip,
not in SAMSUNG K9GAG08U0M PIB0 - 2Gb NAND, so, no need repair uboot.
but i need replace my samsung chip for test this.
📎 avic_f90bt_uboot_menu.jpg
holy... i dont know if your asking or help or what, but your lightyears a head of me.
holy... i dont know if your asking or help or what, but your lightyears a head of me.
He's pointing us at the chip that stores the very first instructions that the CPU executes when it gets power. Description of the chip is here. An encouraging line from that document is:
A standard EPROM programmer can also be used to program and erase the device.
Basically, carver's put us one step closer to replacing the eBoot software in the FlashROM with other loaders that might let us boot alternative OSes (like Linux, QNX, etc). I've been eyeing the instructions at http://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/vie ... leasenotes the last few days, thinking similar instructions could let us boot QNX or Linux.
One remaining problem is we still need to figure out how the DLLs and APIs in the current OS send instructions to the other devices in the system (uCOM IC, GPS receiver, touchscreen, button inputs). uCOM does a lot of the work for the Navi unit when it comes to the AV board (probably audio source switching commands, e-volume, etc). Without that information, you can put a different OS (or WinCE image) on the board but won't be able to make it do much.
The nice thing about having the .bin of the Flash ROM is that if you accidentally brick your unit trying to update eBoot (or maybe WinCE) you might be able to use an external Flash programmer to put the working code back. Very cool.
if anybody has problem with testmode,and wrong unit id,
like The unit ID is now 0x:0000 it can try my testmode build.
i think, it can work with any US/EW/RE/AU/0x:0000 version.
tags: testmode unlocked diskrw
Wow... then it might even be possible to have a faster bootup unit then. Also even possibly constantly updating our unit so its not restricted to the igo 8, meaning it can adapt to the future and future navigation softwares?
if anybody need, photo of NN746UC from pioneer f90bt board
it also used in f700/f900 pioneer.
📎 avic_f90bt_front2.jpg
📎 avic_f90bt_back.jpg
Sweet! Any chance you could snap some pix of the AV board as well, specifically around the uCOM ASIC?
sorry, i has only photo with bad quality, like in attach, and today i assemble my avic, so, can't make new.
📎 avic_f90bt_av-ucom.jpg
📎 avic_f90bt_av-back.jpg
i see this in service manual, and try switch SIMUKE1 and other SIMUKE, but it don't help me with FM radio.
may-be later, i try do it again.
📎 avic_f90bt_config5.jpg
📎 avic_f90bt_config4.jpg
The overall lag through out the system, is this due to a lack of ram or cpu power?
carver,
any new developments did u manage to get the 8 gb installed
no.
i use search at site flashboot.ru, and buy few USB flash, with samsung FLASH_ID, like in avic.
so, i has 2, 4 and 8 Gb cheap chip.
but when i use the same 2Gb chip, like in avic - it not work. 4 and 8 also don't work.
so, i think about INIT this empty chip before using.
we can do it via secret menu in UBOOT, for OEMInit procedure, i see it in firmware, but i cant enter to it,
or use external flash programmer, but i haven't.
so, i stop working with this case, i need more skill for this job.
I was not around the forums when this discussion started.. none of the pictures work anymore.. carver.. if you could get them back up that would be nice. Im interested in this.. what happened when you put the other chips in? nothing at all? i guess no service mode with it not being programed to the chip.. like a bios chip with no bios on it. I found the K9HCG08U1M-PIB0 chip on Samsung's website but no real info. Did you get documentation with it? I have a 28pin eeprom programmer that i use for honda ecu eeproms.. I did see that it is a 48 pin chip on Samsung's website but maybe a simple adapter could be made. im sure power and programming are dealt with on only a few pins. when you said that you could see the "secret" OEMInit menu in uboot im assuming you disassembled the uboot bin file? If the menu is in the programming there has to be a way to access it.
Pretty much all the new flash chips can and is programmed by JTAG; I can't find any
references for programming the high capacity chips with a programmer. I built some
time ago the Willem programmer, and I still have the documentation around. Upon interest,
I can publish the documentation, and if I recall correctly, some source code(for DOS) has
been published, too.
it would seem that we need Atlasmgr.. i just spent the last hour exercising my google-fu and cannot find this software anywhere! I can find references to it but all just dead ends. how did you determine that we needed 5.8.4? i cannot find the software much les version #'s
I'm pretty sure you only get Atlasmgr if you've got an RDK for one of the SiRF chips, and that usually comes with a nice NDA to sign before you get your hands on one. There's lots of references to AtlasMgr on the QNX Foundry site that talks about setting up the Titan RDK with their board support package.
1) before I delete working AVIC NAND chip SAMSUNG K9GAG08U0M,
and try solder K9GAG08U0M(yes, like in avic before) and K9GAG08U0M from USB flash.
but i can't format or write new WINCEIMG.BIN from Uboot.
maybe I poorly solder, but i stop working, and waiting for ~10$ NAND reader/writer.
i don't want pay $200 for http://www.soft-center.ru/reader2eng/ or $1000 Xeltek 3000U
2) about OEMInit - before i dump Uboot firmware, stored in Spansion AL004D70BF102,
also i shared it before. So, i see OEMInit in AVIC Uboot, but i haven't manual for start it.
3) About AtlasMgr - i enable USB client at my F90BT, but i don't find any intresting.
my AVIC haven't USB mode switch, like other model
so, i just try remove two resistor, but in my case, after this - Volume Control STOP WORK !!!
4) I write before - i found Sirf JTAG pins, but also need swith SirfTitan mode, like in other Sirf Developer Manual.
i share manual, http://www.4shared.com/dir/20074039/ade ... titan.html
but can't find MODE pinout in AVIC.
so, at this moment we can acces tia JTAG to AVIC Xiling Chip, and to MSN Direct CPU/Firmware.
no way for Uboot Chip or NAND chip
if anybody has problem with testmode,and wrong unit id,
like The unit ID is now 0x:0000 it can try my testmode build.
i think, it can work with any US/EW/RE/AU/0x:0000 version.
tags: testmode unlocked diskrw
Hello. I would like to try your testmode as my unit id is now 0X:0000. I have two problem units. This first one is a F700 and it loads the new WINCE images (reads & writes 100%). When I go to reset the unit to boot up in tesstmode, the screen remains black. When I push the 4 buttons to get back to service menu, it skips the first screen where you enter the service combination and goes directly to the blue screen that has the Upgrade CE menu. I have used the WinCE card and testmode on other units so I'm pretty sure they are not corrupt.
I also have a F900bt that hangs up after reading the WinCE images to 100% but won't start the writing process.
Please send me or post your testmode that may help me with the F700. Any suggestions on what to try on either unit would be much appreciated. Thanks, -K
Any one has uboot file for f500bt?
I mass up with my f500bt unit when I tried to install fx3.1firmware. It just show me the logo and then black screen.
i have an f900bt did the x3.1 firmware update, worked fine for several days, out of no where, no modifications made at all, unit would load say please wait system starting, then reboot. i reflashed and formatted memory, reloaded wince and update myflash drive, did same thing, i figured some of the data wasn't getting erased, so i formatted the mbr to clear everything, reloaded, it asked me for language and rebooted. now i get pioneer boot screen and it just stays there, then reboots after 5 mins. any help?