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ok wierd problem... with Ipod or Avic??

By basstoy · May 04, 2009in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 32 posts👁️ 6,338 views
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Posted May 04, 2009 · 00:00 UTC#1

ok have a touch.. 2g.. untill now IT WORKED PERFECTLY.. I didn't do NO upgrade from the apple site... I do have the latest firmware,,on the touch AND the f90bt

 

my f90 bt is also running well... this all worked fine last night.... now.. went to do groceries today and all of a sudden I noticed my right ch was playin lower... so played around with balance , songs and it was only the ipod that was doing it... so........... I unplug the cable...... and re plug... and now I get "ipod has failed to connect, Please reconnect" and it wont go away untll I unplug the cable from the ipod, OR the usb part... now... thinking its the pioneer Ipod cable, I try the cable that came with my ipod...( just the usb one) and I get the same MSG... hrmmmmmm,,, ipod plays fine on the home dock I have, and everything else on the f90bt is OK also.... I even tryed a Usb stick..put about 1 gig of mp3s on it and it works fine.. so its not the USB cable that is on the F90bt... what the hell do I do??? and I will restate again!!! this worked fine just last night... and I did nothing to either units since then...

 

I reset the unit by using the little button... I even unplued the battery of the car to reset that way also... same deal... always have the same..... is this going to be a warranty issue? its only 5 months old..

Posted May 04, 2009 · 00:32 UTC#2

I am having the exact same issue. I have the avic900 using an ipod 3G (3.0 beta software). I had this issue prior to upgrading my iphone software. I also have the 2.0 software for the avic. Seems to be getting worse now. Just today, i thought it was going to be a "good" day and play equally through all speakers. It did for the first couple of songs then it switched to full sound out of front right speaker and hardly anything out of left. I am using the Pioneer ipod cable. I have tried unplugging/plugging and nothing works. Has anyone contacted Pioneer??

Posted May 04, 2009 · 20:03 UTC#3

I am having the same issues now. everything worked great for the past 2 months. Im using a 30 gb ipod. The right channel is low and distorted. Every other sources seems to play fine. Im not using an amp I plugged my iPhone in to make sure it wasn't the iPod giving me trouble and it did the same thing. So i know its not the iPod. Tried reseting using the reset button but it did not help. I was prepaired to take the unit out thinking it was something i did during install but now i might try to reinstall firmware. Hopefully someone has solved this problem and could give us some insite. Hopefully its just a pioneer iPod cable issue that can easily be fixed.

Posted May 04, 2009 · 22:16 UTC#4

avic = timebomb

Posted May 05, 2009 · 02:54 UTC#5

I was able to get mine to work again! Not sure what i actually did that solved the problem though.i first tried to reset the system VIA the reset button on the front of the unit. No luck with that. I switched the av1 input from iPod to Video which means i was only using the composite inputs not the usb input (which is only used to control the ipod and charge it) and I still had an issue with the right speakers sounding low and distorted. I then tried to do a Hard reset by holding the eject button and the reset button for 5 sec. It didn't seem to do anything different than a normal reset though so im not sure i actually accomplished a hard reset. i then unplugged the USB input for about 10 seconds or so after hooking the iPod back up it worked. Why it suddenly worked i don't know. So my suggestion is to play around with it a bit. hopefully it wont happen again... but i doubt it. it seems like a software issue (which this unit seems to have plenty of) Hope that helps someone.

The only other thing i was going to attempt is to reinstall the firmware which i might do if it occurs again.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 21:06 UTC#7

I read that post. but this was not acting like a loose connection i wiggled and jiggled and even plugged in a different iPod a loose connection was the first thing i assumed. we will see if it comes back again.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 22:43 UTC#8

read that thread also.. but I TRIED the white apple cable that I got with the touch......and it does the same thing so it cant be a loose fitting..... ,,,,also the touch works find on the home dock I have. leads me to believe its the avic its self.

Posted May 10, 2009 · 15:52 UTC#9

Update... My right channel started playing low/distorted while listening to my ipod again the other day so i changed the balance to the right. I wiggled the usb plug and the plug in the bottom of the ipod to make sure it wan't a loose connection and nothing happened it was still playing low/distorted. i then unplugged the USB for about 10 sec. plugged it back in and the right channel was louder and not distorted. It seems as though it some sort of driver issue with the f900. doesn't seem as though its a loose connection. Just thought it might help some one.

Posted May 21, 2009 · 22:43 UTC#10

Has anyone who has had this problem solved it? I have basically quit using my ipod. which sucks cause that was one of the main features i was interested in.

Posted May 22, 2009 · 17:03 UTC#11

I'm having the same problem with my F700BT. How do you solve this cause it's ridiculous!

 

Update: If you call Pioneer tech support and tell them about this they'll send you a replacement RCA harness as long as it is still under warranty and you purchased it from one of their authorized retailers.

Posted May 27, 2009 · 14:06 UTC#12

Having the exact same problem. Worked for 2 or 3 months perfect. May work for 1 or 2 songs and then front right cuts out. Wiggled cords and disconnected and reconnected. Still having problems. Any confirmed fixes yet????

Posted May 27, 2009 · 14:39 UTC#13

Its the cable. I replaced my cable with an apple component cable and it fixed this exact problem.

 

The cable is garbage (as is the AVIC-F IMO)

Posted Jun 01, 2009 · 05:05 UTC#14

Is the consensus just to get a new cable from pioneer...or do we have to spend the money to get the apple one? This is ridiculous that they have not fixed this problem.

Posted Jun 01, 2009 · 12:33 UTC#15

Seems like Tacomaboy really hates the AVIC-F series. I just have to say that for the price you should expect some problems with this unit (you get what you pay for). I paid less than $400 for mine and the majority of other in-dash naviagtion system that I have/had seen were over $1100. I know it's annoying but we should come to expect some of these things. Back on subject, I received the RCA harness and will be installing it sometime this weekend and I'll let everyone know if that fixes the problem.

Posted Jun 19, 2009 · 15:38 UTC#16

Update

 

Finally installed the new RCA harness and I still have the same problem. Looks like afterall it may not be the RCA harness. Guess it's time to try the apple iPod cable instead of the Pioener one. to connect to the AVIC-F.

Posted Jun 24, 2009 · 04:51 UTC#17

nene

i had the same issue pulled my radio out (with it playing iPod) wiggled the pioneer ipod cable where it connects to the f-series rca plugs and it started working, i then electrical tapped the male an female RCA plugs together. it was connected properly it just seems as though the pioneer ipod cable actually is crap. I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago, and posted my solution in another post and i haven't had any trouble since. I actually just returned from a 16 hour round trip vacation and it didn't act up at all. Before i messed with the cables i couldn't go more than a song without the right side cutting out. Good luck with yours

Posted Jun 24, 2009 · 11:30 UTC#18

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I can't have the unit on when I try to remove it from the dash in my car because the air bag computer is right below it and if I don't unplug the battery before unplugging the air bag computer, the stealership will have to reset it at a price of $100. I did tape my RCA connections for the ipod together but it still is no go =(. it kinda sucks because the sound coming from the right side will decrease randomly. I just don't want tto spend another $50 dollars for a cable that should be working fine.

Posted Jul 07, 2009 · 11:46 UTC#19

SO I have been experiencing the same type of issues described in this thread, my left channel fades in and out when hitting bumps, accelerating/decelerating, or change in cabin temperatures. This is while listening to the iPod only! I found that wiggling the RCA harness would fade the channel in and out. I've read on the forum that it's probably a faulty RCA harness, so I called Pioneer in hopes of being able to exchange it for a new harnes. However, the tech stated that most likely it is not the harness but an actual break in the solder joint where the connector and the main board meet inside the unit, and that I should attempt an exchange or send it in for warranty repair. He also stated this is a common issue with these units. So just giving you guys a heads up....

Posted Jul 07, 2009 · 12:17 UTC#20

Same sob story....new harness bought and installed, same result. My truck has been to the audio shop 3 times now and nothing changes. Has anyone tried stripping the RCA jackets and hard splicing the wiring???

Posted Jul 07, 2009 · 12:35 UTC#21
Same sob story....new harness bought and installed, same result. My truck has been to the audio shop 3 times now and nothing changes. Has anyone tried stripping the RCA jackets and hard splicing the wiring???

 

It's not the harness! It's the plug the harness plugs into on the deck. The solder joints where the pins for the connector meet the board are broken. It needs a repair...

Posted Jul 08, 2009 · 04:15 UTC#22

I'm getting conflicting information here. I'm having the same issue with my iPod. Right side of the car just goes really low at times only with the iPod - other sources are just fine. Pulled the deck out and taped the left and right RCAs together. Seems to be working OK now, but I'm wondering if those RCAs are the issue or if it's something inside the unit? Some of you say it's the RCAs, and others say it's IN the AVIC itself.. so which is it?

Posted Jul 08, 2009 · 11:36 UTC#23

You'll have to do a bit of troubleshooting. Get the harness and RCA connections in an arrangement that u can wiggle them around and see where the short is. At first I had a short at the point where the RCA's connect, come to find out I had a bad AV/charge cable from Apple, but I exchanged the iPod cable at the Apple store. However, about a month down the road I started to get faint volume levels out of the left channel. I went back to the RCA connection this time only to find out that was not where it was occuring. If I got directly behind the deck and lifted the entire RCA harness up and down a bit. It would fade in and out. Also, when that channel would fade out, I would get what sounded like ground noise throughout the system. This, combined with the information from Pioneer led me to the conclusion that it was in the connector. There is still a slight chance that it could be the harness at the plug, so before I send my unit off for repair I will use a multimeter to measure ohms and test each pin while wiggling the harness to ensure that's not where the short is. But it must be a common problem as the Pioneer rep was so quick to cut off my explanation of the isue and tell me it was the solder points at that connector. You'll just have to do a bit of troubleshooting to make that determination.

Posted Jul 08, 2009 · 16:16 UTC#24

Thanks for this reply. I hope I can figure this out before my 3.0 update arrives from Pioneer. Would hate to update the unit and then have to have it replaced. Will also be annoying having a gaping hole in my dash for several weeks (maybe longer?) while they fix it...

Posted Jul 09, 2009 · 00:54 UTC#25

Mine started also. The left channel not working. I plug and unpluf the ipod (3rd gen) and it works but then, it cuts off even when the car if not moving! No bumps, no movement in the unit and it does so. If it is a loose connector, wouldn't cut off because of some "movement" disrupted the connection?

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