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SWI-ps for steering control

By landmark · Jun 01, 2009in Hacks/Mods💬 26 posts👁️ 3,833 views
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Posted Jun 01, 2009 · 22:36 UTC#1

I just install the swi-ps for steering control. It has new feature to control the bluetooth but my Honda Pilot did not have the button, is there any way that i can add the button for it? That gonna be cool mod :lol:

Posted Jun 02, 2009 · 10:17 UTC#2

You could! if the head unit supports it! it will take some messing around though! you'd have to measure the resistence to earth from your steering wheel control sw wire for each button that you currently have installed by pressing each button in turn and recording the values! and then pick a resistence different those values recorded, wire up your new switch with the required resistor and then programe SWi-ps accordingly. or you could just program say programe your mute or mode button as a bluetooth controll (any button you don't use often).

Posted Jun 02, 2009 · 15:25 UTC#3
I just install the swi-ps for steering control. It has new feature to control the bluetooth but my Honda Pilot did not have the button, is there any way that i can add the button for it? That gonna be cool mod :lol:

 

The F-series only responds to certain commands from the steering wheel remote input. I am not too sure what you mean by "It has new feature to control the bluetooth" for the swi-ps, but the bottom line is that no matter what the swi-ps is capable of, it is restricted by what the f-series is programmed to interpret.

 

See the following thread for details of the commands that are available:

 

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=22824

Posted Jun 02, 2009 · 17:29 UTC#4

I mean you they add 3 more programming on swi-sp. to see phone status, to answer call, and End call. But my honda steering wheel control only had 3button. CH to change the next song, VOL up VOL down, and AM/FM to change the source. Now I want to try add another set of button ( 2 button) to use answer the call and end call. But I not sure what kind of button that I can use? thanks

Posted Jun 03, 2009 · 07:49 UTC#5
I mean you they add 3 more programming on swi-sp. to see phone status, to answer call, and End call. But my honda steering wheel control only had 3button. CH to change the next song, VOL up VOL down, and AM/FM to change the source. Now I want to try add another set of button ( 2 button) to use answer the call and end call. But I not sure what kind of button that I can use? thanks

 

OK I get that, but I presume that as you are posting it here, you are trying to control an F-series via the swi in your Honda? What I am saying is that even if your Honda had the steering wheel buttons (or if you created them) for phone status, answer call etc, the F-series will not action these commands in any case.

 

Unless someone can hack the part of the F-series that processes the steering wheel commands, you are not going to be able to get this to work, no matter how many buttons you create or what the swi is capable off. Sorry, but you would be wasting your time trying to do this.

Posted Jun 03, 2009 · 20:32 UTC#6

Yes it does, the PAC instruction said " there is 3 new steering wheel control actions for PIONEER radio with a Bluetooth receiver. and if you look at the honda 2008 and 2009 steering wheel control they have another set of button, one with green phone icon and one with red phone icon. So i think these command will work with the F series.

Posted Jun 04, 2009 · 06:29 UTC#7
Yes it does, the PAC instruction said " there is 3 new steering wheel control actions for PIONEER radio with a Bluetooth receiver. and if you look at the honda 2008 and 2009 steering wheel control they have another set of button, one with green phone icon and one with red phone icon. So i think these command will work with the F series.

 

Programe one of your other buttons to perform theses functions just to trial it!

Posted Jun 04, 2009 · 15:10 UTC#8
Yes it does, the PAC instruction said " there is 3 new steering wheel control actions for PIONEER radio with a Bluetooth receiver. and if you look at the honda 2008 and 2009 steering wheel control they have another set of button, one with green phone icon and one with red phone icon. So i think these command will work with the F series.

 

Talk to PAC and ask them specifically about the f-series and telephone commands. I promise you this cannot work as I have tried every possible resistance value to the steering wheel remote connection and none of them are a telephone specific command. The only commands available to the steering wheel input are Vol+/-, Track(or Freq in Tuner mode)+/-, Mute,Source & Band.

 

I am only trying to stop you wasting time and money.

Posted Jun 04, 2009 · 21:52 UTC#9

Thank you, but I did try with another button ( CH) and it work but then i lost the change source which i need too. Maybe I have to sacrifice the source to use for answer the phone still i find the the steering control housing that have more button on it. Take a look at these picture.

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Posted Jun 04, 2009 · 23:58 UTC#10

i have that on my wife's altima work's good. i didn't use the phone options cause i have it set for auto answer and my wife got use to just pushing the end call button on the unit

Posted Jun 05, 2009 · 00:47 UTC#11

I think that's good idea. Maybe i do like that. thanks.

Posted Jun 05, 2009 · 08:13 UTC#12
Thank you, but I did try with another button ( CH) and it work but then i lost the change source which i need too. Maybe I have to sacrifice the source to use for answer the phone still i find the the steering control housing that have more button on it. Take a look at these picture.DSCN2449.JPGDSCN2448.JPG

 

If this really did work, this is big news! What function did you map to the CH button, and what exactly does it do on the f-series? Does the preset up/down work also?

 

Edit - just found this review on crutchfield so I guess the preset answer is no

 

"Nearly perfect

Written By Tomas, Franklin, MA on Thursday, April 30, 2009

 

Just installed this in my 2008 Subaru Impreza. Simple to wire up with just three wires (white/black/red); programming took a couple of tries since you have to finish it within a few seconds. Working great immediately afterwards; button response had little to no lag, and I was able to get vol +/-, mute, source and track +/- all working perfect. Only problem is that track +/- on my Pioneer AVIC-F90BT receiver is also seek +/- (for radio)... would have been better for me if those functions have been matched up with preset +/-. Otherwise I have no complaints... highly recommend installing this if you want to get your car's steering wheel controls working with your aftermarket head unit. "

 

I'd still be very interested if the phone commands really are available, and if so, what resistance they use.

Posted Jun 05, 2009 · 22:10 UTC#13
Thank you, but I did try with another button ( CH) and it work but then i lost the change source which i need too. Maybe I have to sacrifice the source to use for answer the phone still i find the the steering control housing that have more button on it. Take a look at these picture.DSCN2449.JPGDSCN2448.JPG

 

If this really did work, this is big news! What function did you map to the CH button, and what exactly does it do on the f-series? Does the preset up/down work also?

 

Edit - just found this review on crutchfield so I guess the preset answer is no

 

"Nearly perfect

Written By Tomas, Franklin, MA on Thursday, April 30, 2009

 

Just installed this in my 2008 Subaru Impreza. Simple to wire up with just three wires (white/black/red); programming took a couple of tries since you have to finish it within a few seconds. Working great immediately afterwards; button response had little to no lag, and I was able to get vol +/-, mute, source and track +/- all working perfect. Only problem is that track +/- on my Pioneer AVIC-F90BT receiver is also seek +/- (for radio)... would have been better for me if those functions have been matched up with preset +/-. Otherwise I have no complaints... highly recommend installing this if you want to get your car's steering wheel controls working with your aftermarket head unit. "

 

I'd still be very interested if the phone commands really are available, and if so, what resistance they use.

It like remote control. First i map it to change the seek >>, they forward my am fm preset, song on you SD , CD. Then I change to anwers my phone. Now I'm thinking change it to END CALL and use AUTO ANWERS on avic.

I use the control on avic to forward and back, AM/FM on my steering wheel for the source.

Posted Jun 06, 2009 · 12:23 UTC#14

It like remote control. First i map it to change the seek >>, they forward my am fm preset, song on you SD , CD. Then I change to anwers my phone. Now I'm thinking change it to END CALL and use AUTO ANWERS on avic.

I use the control on avic to forward and back, AM/FM on my steering wheel for the source.

 

Is there any chance you could measure the resistance across the connector to the avic (between the tip and base ring) when the swi-ps is giving the answer and end call commands?

Posted Jun 06, 2009 · 13:40 UTC#15

It like remote control. First i map it to change the seek >>, they forward my am fm preset, song on you SD , CD. Then I change to anwers my phone. Now I'm thinking change it to END CALL and use AUTO ANWERS on avic.

I use the control on avic to forward and back, AM/FM on my steering wheel for the source.

 

Is there any chance you could measure the resistance across the connector to the avic (between the tip and base ring) when the swi-ps is giving the answer and end call commands?

Sorry I don't know how to. I didn't use any resistance on my unit. just 3 wire i install, red for ignition, black for ground. and white go to the steering control . then do the program that all,

Posted Jun 06, 2009 · 14:18 UTC#16

It like remote control. First i map it to change the seek >>, they forward my am fm preset, song on you SD , CD. Then I change to anwers my phone. Now I'm thinking change it to END CALL and use AUTO ANWERS on avic.

I use the control on avic to forward and back, AM/FM on my steering wheel for the source.

 

Is there any chance you could measure the resistance across the connector to the avic (between the tip and base ring) when the swi-ps is giving the answer and end call commands?

Sorry I don't know how to. I didn't use any resistance on my unit. just 3 wire i install, red for ignition, black for ground. and white go to the steering control . then do the program that all,

 

There will be a 3.5mm connector (like a headphone connector) that goes from the swi-ps into the back of the f-series. You would need to un-plug that and put an ohm-meter across the tip and base ring of that and then press the appropriate button on the steering wheel with the ignition switched on. The remote works but putting a different resistance between the tip and base for each command. We know the resistances for all the existing commands (eg Vol + is 16700 ohm, Vol - is 23600 ohm etc), but it would be really good to know the resistance for the extra phone commands (take call, end call etc). I appreciate that it is a bit of pain if the unit is fully installed, but if it was possible for you to do it it would be really useful information for others.

Posted Jun 08, 2009 · 00:25 UTC#17

Sorry I don't have omh meter. I will try to but not promise. when i get i will post it OK. Sorry

Posted Jun 08, 2009 · 16:49 UTC#18
Sorry I don't have omh meter. I will try to but not promise. when i get i will post it OK. Sorry

 

 

OK, no problem. Can you confirm though that the Phone Status, Answer Call, and End Call functions all work when programmed to a button on your wheel. If so I will set up my variable resistor test remote again and try to find what resistance values make those commands work.

Posted Jun 08, 2009 · 21:46 UTC#19

just had the Connects2 steering wheel control installed in my car ('09 GTI) and it works great but the same problem as below, the Up/Down buttons only seek and do not go from one pre-set to the next. If it did that it would be perfect. If anybody would know how to change this I would be eternally grateful but it sounds like that is not going to happen. Still great to have all my other GTI controls though. :)

 

HR

 

Thank you, but I did try with another button ( CH) and it work but then i lost the change source which i need too. Maybe I have to sacrifice the source to use for answer the phone still i find the the steering control housing that have more button on it. Take a look at these picture.DSCN2449.JPGDSCN2448.JPG

 

If this really did work, this is big news! What function did you map to the CH button, and what exactly does it do on the f-series? Does the preset up/down work also?

 

Edit - just found this review on crutchfield so I guess the preset answer is no

 

"Nearly perfect

Written By Tomas, Franklin, MA on Thursday, April 30, 2009

 

Just installed this in my 2008 Subaru Impreza. Simple to wire up with just three wires (white/black/red); programming took a couple of tries since you have to finish it within a few seconds. Working great immediately afterwards; button response had little to no lag, and I was able to get vol +/-, mute, source and track +/- all working perfect. Only problem is that track +/- on my Pioneer AVIC-F90BT receiver is also seek +/- (for radio)... would have been better for me if those functions have been matched up with preset +/-. Otherwise I have no complaints... highly recommend installing this if you want to get your car's steering wheel controls working with your aftermarket head unit. "

 

I'd still be very interested if the phone commands really are available, and if so, what resistance they use.

Posted Jun 08, 2009 · 23:50 UTC#20

You need to set it to preset+ ( OPTION 7) and preset - ( OPTION 8). you maybe set it to seek >> and seek << ( which it option 4 and 5 ). so the program go like this

1. volume Up

2. volume down

3. mute / attenute

4. seek >>

5. seek <<

6. source

7. preset +

8. preset -

9. band

10. phone status

11. answer phone

12. end phone

you have to program in order, if you want to skip the programming press the program button on swi-ps to skip. hope this help.

PS. for GEOFFt I set my CH to answer phone ( option 11) and it work. every time someone call I press CH button to pickup touch the End on avic to end.

Posted Jun 10, 2009 · 01:48 UTC#21

Sorry, was this the answer for the SWI-PS or for the Connects2?

 

Thanks

 

HR

 

You need to set it to preset+ ( OPTION 7) and preset - ( OPTION 8). you maybe set it to seek >> and seek << ( which it option 4 and 5 ). so the program go like this

1. volume Up

2. volume down

3. mute / attenute

4. seek >>

5. seek <<

6. source

7. preset +

8. preset -

9. band

10. phone status

11. answer phone

12. end phone

you have to program in order, if you want to skip the programming press the program button on swi-ps to skip. hope this help.

PS. for GEOFFt I set my CH to answer phone ( option 11) and it work. every time someone call I press CH button to pickup touch the End on avic to end.

Posted Jun 10, 2009 · 21:20 UTC#22

sorry this is for swi-ps not connect2. but i think it must be same idea.

Posted Jun 11, 2009 · 01:17 UTC#23

Hmm, I'll have to dig around to see how you would actually do this with the connect2 gear. Guess that's what happens when you get your stuff installed for you as opposed to DIY. :(

 

Thanks anyways

 

HR

 

sorry this is for swi-ps not connect2. but i think it must be same idea.
Posted Jun 11, 2009 · 02:27 UTC#24
You need to set it to preset+ ( OPTION 7) and preset - ( OPTION 8). you maybe set it to seek >> and seek << ( which it option 4 and 5 ). so the program go like this

1. volume Up

2. volume down

3. mute / attenute

4. seek >>

5. seek <<

6. source

7. preset +

8. preset -

9. band

10. phone status

11. answer phone

12. end phone

you have to program in order, if you want to skip the programming press the program button on swi-ps to skip. hope this help.

PS. for GEOFFt I set my CH to answer phone ( option 11) and it work. every time someone call I press CH button to pickup touch the End on avic to end.

 

Hi Landmark!

 

Thanks!

Posted Jun 11, 2009 · 03:53 UTC#25
Hi Landmark!

 

I had my SWI-PS installed for me. I now need to go through the programming again. Do you have something that tells me exactly what it is I need to do? Please excuse my complete ignorance, but I have no idea how to re-program this thing.

 

Thanks!

 

 

Hmm, thought I recognised the monicker, it's Catchs' buddy......... :lol:

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