Hi guys,

just to say it at the beginning: I'm just a user and have no programming skills. But I like a lot what you are doing here, have dpdursts DATA.ZIP installed and don't want to miss the nav mute and other features anymore.

As you are all aware the 2.007 update in Europe and most likely the Map update in the US are blocking testmode. Has anybody of the geeks here looked into 2.007 already? I'm worried if I install it, that will close the door to Mods forever, on the other hand I need it in order to receive reliable TMC information and when the Map update is available in Europe I would like the enhanced performance of IGO 8.3 as well.

Any recommendations or Ideas where we are going from here or will this forum just focus on pre 2.007/3.0 units?

Thanks Guys

Jörg

There is an alternative method to get into Windows Explorer. When you replace MainMenu.exe in the APL directory with Systeminformation.exe (http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/) and make a simple menu where you can choose between the Pioneer software (link to the original MainMenu.exe renamed as _MainMenu.exe) and Windows, you can get into Windows without a Testmode SD. The downside is that you have to make a choice every time you start-up your system. The original MainMenu.exe is part of the upgrade so you have to make sure to replace MainMenu.exe with the alternative MainMenu.exe in the upgrade file before upgrading or you won't be able to get into Windows anymore. After the upgrade you can replace _MainMenu.exe with the new _MainMenu.exe from the upgrade file.

I've included a simple menu I made for my F500BT you can use as a start. Just rename the original MainMenu.exe tot _MainMenu.exe and copy the files from the attachment to the APL folder. Good luck!

PS. I have not upgraded to version 2.007 yet so no guarantees it will work. Use at your own risk!

Menu on device.rar

Thanks for that, although I will not go ahead with anything at the moment in order not to mess it up completely, your answer shows there is light at the end of the tunnel.

See you

Jörg

The original MainMenu.exe is part of the upgrade so you have to make sure to replace MainMenu.exe with the alternative MainMenu.exe in the upgrade file before upgrading or you won't be able to get into Windows anymore. After the upgrade you can replace _MainMenu.exe with the new _MainMenu.exe from the upgrade file.

Won't work. Integrity check in the updater will not load any replaced files.

That's too bad. I hadn't thought about that.

That's too bad. I hadn't thought about that.

There are several hackers out there who are eagerly anticipating the 3.0 files to see how that one will bypass the lock-out in 2.007, so I am sure somebody will come up with a way to enter WinCE even with 3.0

That's too bad. I hadn't thought about that.

 

There are several hackers out there who are eagerly anticipating the 3.0 files to see how that one will bypass the lock-out in 2.007, so I am sure somebody will come up with a way to enter WinCE even with 3.0

I hope so. I'm not getting 3.0 if there is no WinCE access.

That's too bad. I hadn't thought about that.

 

There are several hackers out there who are eagerly anticipating the 3.0 files to see how that one will bypass the lock-out in 2.007, so I am sure somebody will come up with a way to enter WinCE even with 3.0

 

I hope so. I'm not getting 3.0 if there is no WinCE access.

There has to be some way to run something other than MainMenu on startup -- otherwise there'd be no way to upgrade past 2.007/ The only question is how deep did they hide it...

Hi,

You can downgrade windows to previous version and enjoy leetlauncher with apl ver 2.007 by accessing service menu.

Look at the post here "https://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=18442" and read it all. All you need is a SD card with old version of WINCEIMG.BIN & WINCEIMG.CKS. Do not thank me, thank the guys that worked it out. Good luck

Have you tried it with ver 2.007000 ? and does it allow you to get into testmode and transfer files to and from the flash ?

YES. I personally updated to 2.007 apl version and wince to 6.1.7.2. And result was no boot from SD card. After that I did what guys wrote & I am happy again with using leetlaucher. That really works

Thanks that sounds promising, I am not interested in Leetlauncher yet as it is still work in progress, i know the Pioneer software is also work in progress but it is marginally more finished than Leetlauncer.

What i am more interested to find out is if you can use testmode to copy and paste to and from the flash now, have you tried to do that yet ?

Konic, did you do the full 2.00700 update or just load the wince to see what changes it made ?

What i am more interested to find out is if you can use testmode to copy and paste to and from the flash now, have you tried to do that yet ?

YES I did full update & later downgrade wince img, now 100% access to MY flash

Thanks for the information, I will try this when I get home tonight, I want to get my schemes back in which were overwritten when I did the update, i am generaly happy with the unit but I like to have GTI Matts data.zip and my own map schemes, i find the default Pioneer map colours dont have enough contrast to see minor roads, they are light grey on a grey background mine have a thin black outline which makes averythin more visible I also changed the motorway to blue and the A roads to red, it looks more like a UK map that way.

Thanks again for yor help.

What i am more interested to find out is if you can use testmode to copy and paste to and from the flash now, have you tried to do that yet ?

YES I did full update & later downgrade wince img, now 100% access to MY flash

How is the downgrade done? Can't really find it out on that post.

Go back to viewtopic.php?f=32&t=24956

Excellent work my friend.Can now install the Apps to my 900BT even though I had upgraded to 2.007>Thank you very much for the info.

Has anyone tried this ultimate launcher software?

Thanks

Colin

First I will say is I know Testmode R2.3 is reported working. That is a good news. But at the same time, I am thinking out loud...

When I was looking into the update from Pioneer, I was wondering if we can just modify the data.zip in the update before actually updating the system. Looks like the update should just simply coping all the files on the SD to the HU.

If that is the case, and if Testmode will not work in the future updates, could we use the same method by modifying the data.zip in the update before updating the system. Better yet, if the HU let us re-done the same version of the update oven and oven again, then we can keep modifying the data.zip and installs it to the system using the same method.

First I will say is I know Testmode R2.3 is reported working. That is a good news. But at the same time, I am thinking out loud...

 

When I was looking into the update from Pioneer, I was wondering if we can just modify the data.zip in the update before actually updating the system. Looks like the update should just simply coping all the files on the SD to the HU.

 

If that is the case, and if Testmode will not work in the future updates, could we use the same method by modifying the data.zip in the update before updating the system. Better yet, if the HU let us re-done the same version of the update oven and oven again, then we can keep modifying the data.zip and installs it to the system using the same method.

This has been proposed many times and no, it will never worked, unless you also modify the checksum that updater uses to make sure that files being copied are correct.

First I will say is I know Testmode R2.3 is reported working. That is a good news. But at the same time, I am thinking out loud...

 

When I was looking into the update from Pioneer, I was wondering if we can just modify the data.zip in the update before actually updating the system. Looks like the update should just simply coping all the files on the SD to the HU.

 

If that is the case, and if Testmode will not work in the future updates, could we use the same method by modifying the data.zip in the update before updating the system. Better yet, if the HU let us re-done the same version of the update oven and oven again, then we can keep modifying the data.zip and installs it to the system using the same method.

 

This has been proposed many times and no, it will never worked, unless you also modify the checksum that updater uses to make sure that files being copied are correct.

Too bad. And I was thinking I were so smart for about a second...

Too bad. And I was thinking I were so smart for about a second...

Pioneer would not want to support everyone who has a corrupt download, flashes it into AVIC and ends up bricking it. That's why they (and everyone else who uses updaters like that) include integrity checks to make sure that what is being installed is exactly what was offered for download.

um well it shouldnt be that hard to change the checks that pioneer added and just use the new hash or crc whatever check it does with a modified data.zip

hello I have testing ultimate launcher, but I have an error message :

error /st.... /APL/-h on boot

and nothing....

sorry