my first gen iphone 3.0 os works no problems with the 700bt.

I just got a Iphone3gs today and the video does not play, i get the sound from the video but no picture.

Has anyone else experienced this yet?

my first gen iphone 3.0 os works no problems with the 700bt.

 

I just got a Iphone3gs today and the video does not play, i get the sound from the video but no picture.

I plugged a co-worker's 3G S into my 700 BT (FYI: using an "official" Apple cable) on the way to lunch today. In addition to the error message I receive on my 3G about switching to airplane mode, I also received a message stating the phone would not charge. Are you seeing the same thing? I was still able to control her phone but didn't try to play any video.

my 3GS worked fine with audio. I haven't tested video yet. I got the no charging message, but that was expected. I guess I'll be buying the Scosche Passport, unless Pioneer is planning on releasing a new cable.

EDIT: video works, at least with stuff I downloaded from the iTunes store.

I believe Apple changed the charging pin assignment in dock connector. I am planning on calling Apple to confirm this. If so that will mean buying a new av cable from Apple directly once they release an iPhone 3GS version.

I would NOT expect Pioneer to release a compatible cable for at least a year or at all. It's just a numbers game - how many users (what percent) actually have/use the iPhone 3GS? It's probably such a small marketshare that they may just let Apple produce them.

so that means WHITE Apple av cables instead of the Pioneer black . . . LOL

it's not just the 3GS that the current Pioneer cable won't charge, but the iPhone 3G, and the latest gen of iPods and iPod touches. The market is there, if Pioneer wants to seize it.

that I can NOT agree with . . . I am currently using the Pioneer cable and it DOES charge most current gen iPods (Except those that used firewire connectivity - charging pin-out is different) and all iPhone except for the 3GS.

So the iPhone 3GS will play audio but it won't charge and it seems there are mixed results on it playing video when connected to pioneer's ipod cable? This correct?

My 32gb 3gs (and another 32gb 3gs, my dad's) both work perfectly with my f90 using the pioneer cd-iu230v cable that it shipped with. Video, audio, charging and bluetooth all work consistently thus far

My iPhone 3GS charges via the Pioneer cable, but will not play audio or video. It gives me the dreaded "This accessory is not compatible" error. It still was not recognized when I plugged a regular iPod cable into the USB port. I wonder if there's something with the firmware on the F700BT or in the firmware for the iPhone?

Interesting. My 3GS will play audio but not charge. BT works as well. I have the latest firmware on the f700 and the latest BT firmware. Newest iPhone firmware as well.

I have had none of the issues here... I'm using the Pioneer cable that came with my F90 and my 3GS charges and plays audio just fine. Bluetooth works great too. Haven't tried video. The only thing is that it asks me to put it into airplane mode when it first connects.

For those experiencing charging issues, not all cables are built the same way, older cables (and cables from cheesy manufacturers) use the now deprecated firewire dock pins for charging, it's not Apple or Pioneer's fault, Apple was very clear that accessory manufacturers would have several years before that cable was no longer supported, and they made it very clear the way to work with future ipods and iphones was to use the proper USB supplied dock charging pins, they're even different pins in the dock connector.

The iphone 3G was one of the first units to INSIST on USB charging pins, and would not charge with firewire pins, just like Apple had said would happen for many many years, this was not a surprise to anyone. According to Apple, there were no pinout changes to the 3GS from the 3G, they got enough flack for the original iphone supporting firewire charging, and the 3G not supporting it.

As far as units asking about "airplane mode" since the AVIC does not have the chip that says to the phone "I'm approved for iphone use" every iphone should come up saying "hey.. turn on airplane mode?" It's the X series that has the proper hardware in it that tells the iphone "hey, I'm approved, no need for airplane mode" This is not a "dreaded message" this is because the iphone is told by the hardware "hey, I'm an ipod approved dock" not "hey, I'm an iphone approved dock" I can't say if the original iphone treats it this way, but the 3G and 3GS certainly do.

None of these are surprises, and all of them are standard in relation to ipods and iphones.

Neither the firewire vs USB charging issue, or the "non-approved we need airplane mode" can be fixed by the version 3.0 software since both are hardware issues.

dianebrat,

What specifically would we look for in a cable to ensure it will work with the 3G S? Would it just say compatible with 3G S or is there some specific detail that would indicate tat it is okay. I only bought my pioneer cable a year and a half ago. I'm surprised Pioneer didnt make it to Apple's specs.

What specifically would we look for in a cable to ensure it will work with the 3G S? Would it just say compatible with 3G S or is there some specific detail that would indicate tat it is okay. I only bought my pioneer cable a year and a half ago. I'm surprised Pioneer didnt make it to Apple's specs.

Cables should not have been using the firewire ports for several years, I don't know of an easy way to physically tell the difference, however cables that come with recent ipods and iphones are good, as would be any cable that says it supports the iphone 3G (and in theory any iphone).

Here's a link to the official error and some background http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/ ... -on-ipods/

While Apple apparently announced this upcoming change to manufactures of “Made for iPod†accessories back in 2005, Apple only formerly discontinued Firewire charging support with the most recent iPods. New iPods and iPhones can only charge via the USB pin.

We're talking a change that Apple made almost FOUR years ago!

Fixed my iPhone 3GS problem. When the "This Accessory Is Not Compatible With This iPhone" message comes up....hit Yes. It will turn on Airplane Mode, and you can then use your iPhone like an iPod plugged into the system. You can then turn Airplane Mode off and it will continue to play. When you unplug and plug the iPhone back in, it will work automatically but still have the message popup. It will clear itself and you can continue using your iPhone. Ta-da!

Fixed my iPhone 3GS problem. When the "This Accessory Is Not Compatible With This iPhone" message comes up....hit Yes. It will turn on Airplane Mode, and you can then use your iPhone like an iPod plugged into the system. You can then turn Airplane Mode off and it will continue to play. When you unplug and plug the iPhone back in, it will work automatically but still have the message popup. It will clear itself and you can continue using your iPhone. Ta-da!

You're missing the point, when it says "this accessory is not compatible, do you want to turn on airplane mode?" just say no, everything should still work fine. Unless the 3Gs does something new and different unlike all previous iphones. The warning is there only because the AVIC isn't saying "I'm iphone approved" not because anything specific isn't supported.

Well, I find it hard to believe that Pioneer sold me a firewire pinned charger a year and a half ago. Is it more likely that the F700 is the culprit? Can anyone with the F700 charge their iPhone?

What specifically would we look for in a cable to ensure it will work with the 3G S? Would it just say compatible with 3G S or is there some specific detail that would indicate tat it is okay. I only bought my pioneer cable a year and a half ago. I'm surprised Pioneer didnt make it to Apple's specs.

Cables should not have been using the firewire ports for several years, I don't know of an easy way to physically tell the difference, however cables that come with recent ipods and iphones are good, as would be any cable that says it supports the iphone 3G (and in theory any iphone).

 

Here's a link to the official error and some background http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/ ... -on-ipods/

 

While Apple apparently announced this upcoming change to manufactures of “Made for iPod†accessories back in 2005, Apple only formerly discontinued Firewire charging support with the most recent iPods. New iPods and iPhones can only charge via the USB pin.

 

We're talking a change that Apple made almost FOUR years ago!

Well, I find it hard to believe that Pioneer sold me a firewire pinned charger a year and a half ago. Is it more likely that the F700 is the culprit? Can anyone with the F700 charge their iPhone?

Yes, my iphone 3G charges JUST fine with my JVC-built cable on my F700BT.

But not a 3GS? Can anyone successfully charge a 3GS using the F700?

Well, I find it hard to believe that Pioneer sold me a firewire pinned charger a year and a half ago. Is it more likely that the F700 is the culprit? Can anyone with the F700 charge their iPhone?

Yes, my iphone 3G charges JUST fine with my JVC-built cable on my F700BT.

But not a 3GS? Can anyone successfully charge a 3GS using the F700?

 

Well, I find it hard to believe that Pioneer sold me a firewire pinned charger a year and a half ago. Is it more likely that the F700 is the culprit? Can anyone with the F700 charge their iPhone?

Yes, my iphone 3G charges JUST fine with my JVC-built cable on my F700BT.

The 3Gs should not behave any differently then an iphone 3G in regards to charging, power, and pinouts.

The 3Gs should not behave any differently then an iphone 3G in regards to charging, power, and pinouts.

I'm not sure that is true. I may try to test a friend's 3G. If his also doesn't charge then it would almost certainly be the cable. If his does work, well then that's not good.

I'll post my results.

Still waiting to get an opportunity to test my cable on a 3G, but I happened to find my cable's model number:

"Pioneer CD-IU230V iPod Audio/Video Direct Cable for AVIC-F900BT and AVIC-F700BT"

Unfortunately, another poster has stated that their 3GS charges and plays audio and video fine using this same cable on the F900. Could this mean the the F700BT - 3GS combo won't charge? We'll see.

Still waiting to get an opportunity to test my cable on a 3G, but I happened to find my cable's model number:

 

"Pioneer CD-IU230V iPod Audio/Video Direct Cable for AVIC-F900BT and AVIC-F700BT"

 

Unfortunately, another poster has stated that their 3GS charges and plays audio and video fine using this same cable on the F900. Could this mean the the F700BT - 3GS combo won't charge? We'll see.

I believe you're not getting the point, there's no difference in the way the 700 or 900 charges, there's nothing special here preventing your 3Gs other then the cable.. it's very possible there are variations in the cables.

Well user F90BT says:

My 32gb 3gs (and another 32gb 3gs, my dad's) both work perfectly with my f90 using the pioneer cd-iu230v cable that it shipped with. Video, audio, charging and bluetooth all work consistently thus far

And you say your 3G charges/plays on the F700BT. I can only assume you also have the pioneer cd-iu230v.

But my (and other's) 3GS doesn't charge using the cd-iu230v cable connected to the F700BT.

I'd still like to test a friends 3G to be sure but the only thing i can derive from this (assuming no one is making stuff up) is that the 3GS doesn't charge on the F700BT. And, I know it shouldn't matter but it seems they just aren't jiving.

However, if you don't have the CD-IU230V then you must have the missing link to solving this situation.

I have the 32gb iPhone 3GS. I also have the AVIC F90BT. With My system, when I originally got it, I had the iPhone 3G. The cable that came with the AVIC worked....somewhat. My results were that there was no video on that cable, and I received a trickle charge. By trickle charge, I mean, it was so slow, Id have to have it plugged in for hours for it to receive anything useful.

To receive video on my 3G at the time (and works on my iPhone 3GS now), I purchased the Apple COMPOSITE AV Cable (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB129 ... Mzk4NzUwMA). It works great, however I do not receive a charge with it.

I did read a post out there how people have made work arounds for this to charge the iPhone. It requires a USB Y-Cable and a secondary power supply. The way that works, is the Y cable plugs in to the AVIC then splits it, so that one cable goes to the iPhone and the other to the power supply. The power supply provides USB power. There are many ways out there to do this. If I had the time, I would do it myself. But I know this method works.