Bluetooth, ipod connection, general OS sluggishness, backup camera response, NAV, Piss poor UI arrangement and more.

 

Sounds like you're just mad because of performance issues, and not any real bugs. Because the only bug you actually pointed out was iPod connectivity, and from what I've read, you just need to reconnect it every month or so.

 

Which bring me back to my original point; they are not responsible for improving their unit for free, they are only responsible for making sure all the advertised features function (and they do function). If you aren't happy with their quality/performance, simply return/boycott their product and buy from their competitors.

 

Stealing or demanding handouts is not the right way to do anything.

 

 

 

 

And not that anyone cares, but I've pre-ordered as well.

ipod disconnects more than once a day - not performance issue.

bluetooth hangs easily once a day - not performance issue.

sluggishness - it would be a performance issue if it werent so bad as to be dangerous and often unusable.

locking up and rebooting - not a performance issue.

I don't want anything for free, I want the unit I paid $1000 bucks for to work. I am out of return policy or I would have gladly returned it. i am boycotting Pioneer.

I am not stealing or demanding a hand out, I want my product to work as advertised.

Its a pretty simple concept to understand, I don't know how you get it twisted so easily into assuming I am whining for free stuff.

And anyone can whine about my complaints if they want. Its pretty obvious I am not the only one with these issues or else there would not be rampant unhappiness across this forum.

Obviously people are excited for 3.0 not for the new maps, but for the *FIXES*. Some of us think its preposterous for Pioneer to try and profit further off of us by charging extra for the fix. I am one of those people.

I don't want free maps, I could care less, I do, however, expect for the unit I *paid* for to work the way it was advertised to work.

It was not advertised to crash and freeze and perform sluggishly. Simple as that.

After letting it fully start up (I get the little "mobile phone is connected" message), I don't experience any of these issues (can't speak about the iPod thing, but everything else is fine including bluetooth, voice activation, screen response time, etc). If you are getting these issues because you do not allow it to finish it's startup, then it's operator error. If, however, you do let it start up properly and you are still having these issues, you probably just got a bad unit.

And obviously this board will be full of unhappy members. That's like saying, why are there so many alcoholics at this AA meeting? Because the majority of people making their first post here do it for one reasons; to find out was was wrong with their system (yes the system had a lot of bugs at release).

But I confess, I would be pretty unhappy with the performance of this unit if I blew $1000 on it. Fortunately, I did my research (thanks to these boards) and waited for it to hit a price point I could feel comfortable about (~$500 for by my F90BT).

I don't understand why people bitch and complain about their units not working on here.

Talk to the manufacturer. If you don't like their response, do the world one of two favors:

1) Buy a different unit and quit your bitching

2) Kill yourself, and thereby quit your bitching.

Seriously. No one wants to here you cry about how your unit doesn't work. Frankly, you aren't going to find any sympathy, and it's not the right place for you to complain about your unit. Talk to Pioneer.

I want to order this but I've read but didn't find my answer. So does 3.0 firmware basically turns my unit into an X series? And with the Maps on the SD card does that means for the new maps to work they have to be in the SD slot all the time.

I want to order this but I've read but didn't find my answer. So does 3.0 firmware basically turns my unit into an X series? And with the Maps on the SD card does that means for the new maps to work they have to be in the SD slot all the time.

you must not have read much because I read this answer at least 2 weeks ago. 3.0 basically makes the f-series an x-series.(software wise). and you load the update onto your units flash drive and will not have to keep the sd card in.

Now onto everyone else complaining.

I have a 700bt. 2.06 update. The only complaints I have are the bluetooth freezing up for a bit on me and the terrible outdated maps. Guess what though, I bought the update for the 60 bucks and thought it was a great deal compared to what some updates for other manufacturers want.

I challenge anyone here that is pissing and moaning about these units to find a comparable unit for under $1000. You cant. And by comparable I mean a reputable company, bluetooth, ipod, etc. I also would love to meet the person who has ever seen flawless technology. It does not exist and never will. Theres always improvements that can be made after releasing something. Look at microsoft for example. How many years since windows xp was released and theyre still finding flaws in it that can lead to all kinds of issues.

I myself would prefer garmin navif=gation because Im a huge fan. So lets compare kenwood. The entry level dnx5140. Retail price is about $1000. No bluetooth, thats and extra 150 for the add-on. 2 sets of preouts, not 3 like the f-series. Navigation is garmin but no lane assistance. And to top it off boot time isnt that much better. I installed one for a customer yesterday and tested the start up time compared to pioneer. It might be 10-15 seconds faster. whoopidy doo.

So eveyone complaining on how pioneer sucks and this should be free and blah blah blah. Get down off your soapbox and grow up. Pioneer makes some of the best products out there. They are still offering support and upgrades for these units when they could just as easily say its outdated and theyre not going to.

I for one will continue to buy pioneer products as they make some of the best I have ever seen and had the pleasure of owning.

Get down off your soapbox and grow up.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I don't understand why people bitch and complain about their units not working on here.

 

Talk to the manufacturer. If you don't like their response, do the world one of two favors:

 

1) Buy a different unit and quit your bitching

2) Kill yourself, and thereby quit your bitching.

 

 

Seriously. No one wants to here you cry about how your unit doesn't work. Frankly, you aren't going to find any sympathy, and it's not the right place for you to complain about your unit. Talk to Pioneer.

Thats what forums are for. To discuss how crappy the system is.

I got lots to discuss about this. I wonder how many people have called Pioneer to complain? A ton I suspect, if my Car Audio dealer is correct - he said one guy punched his system in. Hahah thats awesome.

Get down off your soapbox and grow up.

 

Pot. Kettle. Black.

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Get down off your soapbox and grow up.

 

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

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Yeah yeah I am trolling some. But seriously I am pissed. I think its terrible customer service to "offer" a fix for 60 bucks when the system is so broken. If it wasnt broken, why would they need a fix?

They should release a patch at least to fix the bluetooth and the speed issues? I dont want the map, and I dont care about the iGo8.3.

Yeah yeah I am trolling some. But seriously I am pissed. I think its terrible customer service to "offer" a fix for 60 bucks when the system is so broken. If it wasnt broken, why would they need a fix?

 

They should release a patch at least to fix the bluetooth and the speed issues? I dont want the map, and I dont care about the iGo8.3.

It's not a fix, it's an update. Fix implies something is not working. Update implies something is out of date or inefficient. Fix != Update

You're just going to have to accept that speed issues are not technically bugs. Yes it's frustrating and annoying, but it's not a bug.

As far as your bluetooth issue, maybe it's just not very compatible with your current phone? My bluetooth works fine (unless I try to make or receive calls during startup, then it can be buggy but it usually works itself out during my drive).

I don't understand why people bitch and complain about their units not working on here.

 

Talk to the manufacturer. If you don't like their response, do the world one of two favors:

 

1) Buy a different unit and quit your bitching

2) Kill yourself, and thereby quit your bitching.

 

 

Seriously. No one wants to here you cry about how your unit doesn't work. Frankly, you aren't going to find any sympathy, and it's not the right place for you to complain about your unit. Talk to Pioneer.

 

Thats what forums are for. To discuss how crappy the system is.

 

I got lots to discuss about this. I wonder how many people have called Pioneer to complain? A ton I suspect, if my Car Audio dealer is correct - he said one guy punched his system in. Hahah thats awesome.

Agreed. Forums would be pointless if everyone shared the same opinions.