I've done some extensive searching, but I can find nothing to address this exact problem...

After upgrading to 3.01, everything works great...(better actually); except that the Ipod is not recognized at boot-up most of the time (but not every time)

If I unplug and then replug after boot-up, the F700bt sees it just fine.

This was not a prob with 2.0???

Anyone?

PS: I am running Diaftia's mods, but I don't think this is the problem.

Please point me to the string if this has been covered...and thanks in advance!

I can only tell you that with the official 3.0 upgrade my ipod does indeed drop off a lot more often.

In 2.x the ipod was always woken up by the AVIC boot process, with 3.x, at least a few times a week the ipod fails to get woken up by the AVIC.

any fix for this its REally annoying that after the unit boots up you must Disconnect and reconnect in-order to get the ipod working again

any fix for this its REally annoying that after the unit boots up you must Disconnect and reconnect in-order to get the ipod working again

Not that I've seen yet, but it's a few times a week up from once a month or so.

At least you know you're not alone.

any fix for this its REally annoying that after the unit boots up you must Disconnect and reconnect in-order to get the ipod working again

same thing here.

One thing I notice, if I turn off my car while listening to the ipod, it surely won't be recognized.

If I listen to XM, sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Very annoying

I'm sure it is not related to a mod but it would be fun if we could trigger it in a mod.

labgate

mine does the same thing if I turn off sytem while Ipod was running. I have to go back to menu, AV source and select it again.

What cable are you using? If you have the Pioneer cable that is your problem. I had this same issue on and off. Swapped out my cable with a Monster cable no problems anymore.

come one man Give us a model number of the monster cable please

What cable are you using? If you have the Pioneer cable that is your problem. I had this same issue on and off. Swapped out my cable with a Monster cable no problems anymore.

come one man Give us a model number of the monster cable please

 

What cable are you using? If you have the Pioneer cable that is your problem. I had this same issue on and off. Swapped out my cable with a Monster cable no problems anymore.

I can't think of a single reason monster should ever get even 1 cent of my money, there are plenty of other respectable vendors out there that don't make a living with exorbitant prices preying on the uninformed user.

Besides, the newly introduced ipod falling off and failing to be awakened with 3.x issue is most likely not cable related. ( I don't doubt there were some pre-3.x issues with poor cables causing the same symptom in 2.x but this isn't that issue)

come one man Give us a model number of the monster cable please

 

What cable are you using? If you have the Pioneer cable that is your problem. I had this same issue on and off. Swapped out my cable with a Monster cable no problems anymore.

You ask and you shall receive:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21221

You will also need a mini to usb cable that plugs in on the under side of the cable. So it can charge it.

I have the apple cable, and I have this problem. It's a shame. I'd assume its not your cable.

Unless this Monster cable is some how terrific. The name suggests otherwise.

i think is straight software related!

I'm having the same problem with an ipod touch. I noticed it being more frequent after upgrading my 700 to 3.01, but after I upgraded the touch to 3.1, it fails to start almost every time. I'm using the apple cable.

Edit:

I did a soft reset on the ipod (hold power and home buttons for 10 seconds) and it successfully connected at start up 3 times in a row. I'm not declaring victory yet, but that's a new, recent, record.

Help me!

I am in Hungary, I have a Pioneer AVIC F900 BT. type of navigation device.

Come 2:05 version. The maps I would like to replace it, but I do not know, because I always rebootol.

The maps are the same (8.0) device.

What can be done to change the maps to know?

having the same issue as everyone above... I've tried multiple iPods and IPhones to a varying degree of success. I did have the problem before updating to 3.01...

To date, this is what I've tried:

- swapped cable with Monster/USB cable - no change

- updated F700BT to firmware 3.01 (needed to update maps anyway) - no change

- downgraded iPod to firmware level 1.1.1 - no difference

- contacted Pioneer - predictably, NO DIFFERENCE.

Pioneer's answer is "send it in and include a $200 check if it's out of warranty" because the warranty on the unit only supports shipping it to Ohio. Horse hockey.

There are times where if I reboot the iPod (menu and middle button) and restart the unit enough times, I'll get the first song to play but as soon as I select anything else (another song, playlist, etc) it barfs and disappears. I've spent the last 4 frustrating months trying to solve this and if I'm certain of anything, it has NOTHING to do with the cable you use (swapping it might solve other issues, but not this one) - this is issue is solidly a software issue between the AVIC and the iPod.

To make matters worse, if a number of others are having the same issue, I am fairly confident Pioneer will not be able to fix this issue if I send it in.

Ah well.... off to call the warranty dept. I'll let ya know what I find out.

p.s. - funny, I went to my local Apple store and asked about downgrading the firmware on the iPod and while there mentioned why I wanted to. The guy there just smiled knowingly and said, "yea, I get that a lot from Pioneer customers". Ominous...

-C

ARGGGHHH.....

Just spoke with Pioneer and again, have to send in the unit. Said that it should take about a month to get it back. Oh there are so many words I would like to type right now and the little evil Smilies don't cut it.

Oh yea, I mentioned to my service guy this forum and it looks like we all have a reputation as hackers. He said that most of the people on this forum "have created their own issues because they hack the OS". Looks like Pioneer is going to be blind to all the pain posted on here instead of being a responsible manufacturer and actually participating in an open forum to try and head off customer service issues...

-C

I also encountered this problem numerous of time before and after updated to 3.0.1. Before from 2.0, it wouldn't connect maybe 4-5 times a month. Now with 3.0.1, it disconnect EVERY TIME i turn the car on... very annoying to say. Saving money right now for a Kenwood unit.....

No updates on this huh? This sucks!

Mine recognizes Ipod about 1 out of every 10 times

An update...

Got my unit back from Pioneer in Ohio last night. Guess what? That's right, IT'S STILL NOT FIXED! I still have the exact same problems I had before. Apparently the only thing they did when they had it at their repair center was to reload the 2.0 software. Not sure how this is supposed to fix the issue but that's what they did.

So now, not only does the iPod STILL not show as an Audio source but often when i want to change a setting and press Settings, I get an error message that states something to the effect that the Settings Program has performed an illegal operation and needs to close. That's a new one...

Pioneer's Customer Service line doesn't open until 10am local (EST), so i'll post more after speaking with them...

So the moral of the story kiddies is even though they may want you to send your unit in, it won't do a blessed thing... buy Eclipse or Kenwood...

Ok, so I got tired of having to unplug and reconnect my ipod. I googled and googled and here is my band aid fix.

I made a time delay circuit to turn connect the ipod after about 18 seconds and It has connected every time since I installed it yesterday (well over 20 times)

Here is what I did.

I used this schematic Relay Delay

I went to Radio Shack to pick up some transistors

2 of PN 276-2016 (2N3904) $.79 ea

1 of PN 276-1617 (pk of 15) $2.59 pk I used this in place of the 2N3053

and a small bread board $1.99

I had the relay, diode, resistor and capacitor (I used the 470ufd) laying around.

I had a small USB ext cable that I used so I would not have to cut into the Ipod cable.

I hooked up the relay so it is in line with the power to the ipod and hooked up the circuit to ground and a RAP power source. When the power is off it disconnects the ipods power. When I start the car the relay is closed at about 18 seconds and the ipod connects.

I have the same problem with iPod (Nano 4th gen) more often not being recognized by the HU (F900 3.02 FW), unless disconnected and connected again.

@ItsStopher your solution seems interesting (basically it makes HU thinks the iPod is connected only after boots up), but needs a little bit too more work and skills for my taste.

Do we have any other solution?

[knock on wood]Day three - Ipod has been detected every time[/knock on wood]

so anyone got a Simpler Solution?

After reading about both this problem and the left/right channel sound problem I'm thinking the source of the issue is the same. I have both issues, where my left channel is completely gone and/or my iPod is not recognized at start up. Both problems go away if I unplug my iPod while my car is running and re-plug after about a minute or two.

It has to be one of two things:

the AVIC unit is still going through startup for that long and the unit is simply not ready at boot to accept the external iPod connection, in which case it is a software issue and would explain why it either doesn't connect at all or only partially works on one channel, right side in my case,

or

the PAC unit is not getting enough or any power at start up and takes some time to gather enough juice to function properly.

I'm partially happy to see I'm not the only one having these issues and mostly unhappy that it's happening to anyone at all.