Just replaced our totaled Mustang and the insurance company was going to give me too much for my old D3 for me to take it, so it's time to upgrade to the AVIC-Z110BT. Going to pick it up from Discount Sound on Ebay. 100% feedback and they seem good to work with. Even gave me a lower than listed price.

Anyway, Can anyone confirm what the proper wiring harness number is for this install? I tried to get it from Crutchfield, but they are showing some $129.99 harness. I can't imagine that the wiring harness is $130 is it?

Also, if i decide to put my XM back in, will the old GEX-P910XM module work on the new Z110BT?

Lastly, what are good prices to pay for the following modules?

MSN Direct:

HD radio:

XM (if I need a new one):

Thanks folks.

That harness is optional. You can use a standard harness which will work fine, or use the more expensive one, such as the XSVI-5520-NAV

XSVI-5520-NAV - this harness will give you the VSS pulse, Back-up sensor, Park brake sensor, and R.A.P. (Retained Accessory Power) which after the ignition is turned off keeps the radio on for another 10mins or until you open the drivers door

Otherwise you can still use the basic harness and you have to manually find and harwire the specific wires like the VSS and backup and park brake wires manually! You'll also lose the R.A.P. feature as well....

***Also this depends if you have a Premium Audio System like the MACH 500/1000! If you do there is another type of harness... let me know!

"will the old GEX-P910XM module work on the new Z110BT?"

Supposivey the GEX-P910XM will not work on the new Z110 according to Pioneer's website...

The New model is GEX-P920XM which sells for around $100

so...

MSN Direct Tuner ND-MDT10 is $110.00

The HD Radio GEX-P20HD is $100.00

The XM Radio GEX-P920XM is $100.00

The Sirius Radio is a two part unit:

Sirius Tuner SC-C1 is $50.00

Pioneer Sirius Interface CD-SB10 is $70.00

"will the old GEX-P910XM module work on the new Z110BT?"

Yes it will, the unit just wont support the XM NavTraffic feature of the tuner.

No it won't. You need either the GEXP920XM or the GEXP10XMT

"will the old GEX-P910XM module work on the new Z110BT?"

Oh my mistake, I thought that was the one he was referring to.

That harness is optional. You can use a standard harness which will work fine, or use the more expensive one, such as the XSVI-5520-NAV

 

XSVI-5520-NAV - this harness will give you the VSS pulse, Back-up sensor, Park brake sensor, and R.A.P. (Retained Accessory Power) which after the ignition is turned off keeps the radio on for another 10mins or until you open the drivers door

 

Otherwise you can still use the basic harness and you have to manually find and harwire the specific wires like the VSS and backup and park brake wires manually! You'll also lose the R.A.P. feature as well....

 

***Also this depends if you have a Premium Audio System like the MACH 500/1000! If you do there is another type of harness... let me know!

Thanks for all the responses all. Great Forum. So I do have the Shaker 500 system, so I need a different harness than the one you mentioned? If so, do you know which one? I don't have backup sensors, but I would like to have the RAP. My D3 seemed to work that way, but only had the basic harness. Has that changed with the new Z's? If the cost is not too much ($50-70) I'd rather just go with the harness that is the most plug-and-play and gives me as much of the intended functionality as possible. I'm too old to save few bucks and try to figure out car stereo wiring anymore. BTW, pardon my ignorance, but what is the "Park Brake Sensor" and VSS Pulse?

As for the other modules, sorry, I did misspeak. I do actually have the "920" XM unit, so I should be good to go by the sound of it... IF, I even decide to start my subscription again. Wasn't listening to it much when I canceled it (before the accident that is). And that $100 lifetime subscription sounds like a helluva deal on the MSN direct. I know there are probably plenty of threads on what it's all about, but does anyone have a link maybe that could push me right there so I can get the lowdown on what it gives you exactly?

Thanks again everyone. Can't wait to get this thing in. This factory deck is KILLING ME!

PS - AVIC411 FTW!

Was reading this review this morning and they seem to say that the installation is tough with tapping into all the speed pulse and other functions...

http://reviews.cnet.com/car-gps-navigation/pioneer-avic-z110bt/4505-3430_7-33712800.html

isn't this as simple as using the right harness? Or is there still a lot of handwiring involved? Ihad planned on installing this myself considering how easy the my old D3 was to install, but I might second guess that if this is going to be difficult. Thoughts?

Hey Garret, so i bought the wiring harness you recommended, AXXESS XSVI-5520-NAV, but I'm seeing in other threads people talking about a C2R-FRD1 harness. And this website says it's for 05-08 Mustangs;

http://www.installer.com/item/display_item.php?it=C2R-FRD1

Do you happen to know the difference and if I got the right one?

Thanks again for all your help.

It was not my recommendation

RiccoFX made the recomendation...

It was not my recommendation

 

RiccoFX made the recomendation...

OOPS... sorry. Do you happen to know anyway? I'm getting the feeling I got the wrong one...

I don't know for sure. Sorry.

No worries. Anyone else know which is the correct harness to put a Z110 in an 07 Mustang with Shaker 500?

XSVI-5520-NAV or C2R-FRD1?

C2R-FRD1

That 5520 one is not for the Shaker 500.

C2R-FRD1

 

That 5520 one is not for the Shaker 500.

$*#&!!! Great. That was $65 well spent. Will the C2r-FRD1 give you all the speed pulse, RAP and all those other factory functions?

Well I ordered the right harness now (C2R-FRD1), from the same ebay store actually. They even pledged to get it to me by Saturday so I could still do my install this weekend.

I wanted to post JasonH's PM to me too as it ultimately answered my question very well. I cleared posting the PM with JasonH first of course.

Hey,

 

Ok, 3 options:

 

If you want to keep the Shaker 500 and you just want the BASIC (no data) features, you can use the Scosche FDK11 http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_762 ... FDK11.html (this is what I did, you just have to tap into the illumination and other wires manually and add a 5 volt regulator to the amp turn on to keep it from popping on ignition)

 

If you want to preserve all the nifty data features WITH the Shaker 500 (VSS,Reverse,etc) then you use the C2R-FRD1 (this is the easiest, but most expensive)

 

If you want the data features WITHOUT the Shaker 500, then you can use the Metra Axxess XSVI-5520-NAV. If you wanted to use the Shaker 500 with this adapter, it would involve a lot of work...

 

Thanks,

Jason

PS - FOR SALE: Metra Axxess XSVI-5520-NAV $65 via Paypal (DOH!)

I used a standard harness and did not loose RAP in my Mustang

Connecting wiring harnesses and have some confusion. Can anyone help me with the following questions.

BTW, connecting the Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT harness to the PAC C2R-FRD1 Harness

1. Does the C2R-FRD1 "Amp Turn On" Blue/White wire connect to the Pioneer "System Remote Control" Blue/White wire?

2. Do the C2R-FRD1 Purple and Green "SUB" RCA plugs connect to the Pioneer Red and White "Subwoofer Output" RCA plugs? If so, does it go Purple>White and Green>Red... OR Purple>Red and Green>White?

3. What does the C2R-FRD1 "RSE" RCA plugs connect to?

4. What does the C2R-FRD1 "AUX" RCA plugs connect to?

5. What does the C2R-FRD1 Red/White Parking Brake wire connect to? Anything? I have the Pioneer parking brake (light Green) wire connected to the relocated Mute and ground for the bypass.

6. What does the C2R-FRD1 Green/White "SWC" wire connect to?

I think thats if for the moment... please help, I want to try and get this done tonight. USPS didn't deliver my harness until like 5pm today.

Cheers, JR

1. Yes

2. Don't know, sorry.

3. Don't know, sorry.

4. Don't know, sorry.

5. Don't connect to harness at all unless your not going to bypass. Just ground the two wires per the bypass instructions and you will be good ta go.

6. Don't know, sorry.

PM or text me if you have any non stang related quesdtions.

1. Yes

2. Yes, but I don't remember them being weird colors... I think the Shaker 500 is mono, so I doubt it would even matter.

3. RSE is not used, it's the rear seat controls in SUV's and what not.

4. Aux is the Aux input inside the center console, you can hook it up to an aux input on the AVIC, if you want.

5. Since it's bypassed, ignore it.

6. SWC = Steering Wheel Controls, I don't think it's used, at least not in my 07.

c2r-frd1_instructions_051908.pdf

Thanks Jason. So should I clip the male RCA's that are not in use or is it okay to just leave them unconnected in back? I would imagine I could get some feedback if they end up against something, no?

Also, if I do want to maintain the AUX input (not sure what for, but if I do), I have a number of RCAs not in use on the Pioneer harness. Would the C2R-FRD1 "AUX" go into one of these?

1. Front Output - Red/White RCA

2. Rear Output - Red/White RCA

3. Audio Input - Red/White RCA

4. Rearview Camera In - Brown RCA

5. Rear Monitor Output - Red/White RCA

6. Video Input - Yellow

7. Rear Monitor Output - Yellow

My guess would be #3, no?

You can leave them disconnected in the back, I've never had a problem. If you cut them, you might regret it later.

Yes, the Aux Input would go to #3, the audio input on the AVIC.

You can take the AUX input in the consol and connect it to the AV1 or AV2 input. Of course you would just leave the video side of those inputs unconnected but the audio would still go through. On the unit you will select AV1 or AV2 as the source.

Things were going so well... I was just trucking along, nice a steady, routing all the wiring just so... I tested the unit and it works great... sounds beautiful. Then I had to tackle the mounting bracket. Seemingly the easiest part. Well I sit here defeated. I CANNOT figure out how to get that F*&I(NG thing in there right. Does anyone have any idea how this thing is supposed to go in there? JasonH? It seems like the face bracket is about an 1/8" to wide too so no matter how I position the HU, it seems to slightly pop through the face plate.

I give up for tonight. So frustrating... I was so close.

Well, got it all done. Problem with the cheapest parts of an install is that also come with the worst instructions. Turns our I needed to snip off some of the dash kit to make it fit right. Said nothing of the sort on the instructions.

I haven't been able to take it out for spin since it's snowing here, but I can say the MSN direct is pretty cool. Lots of overage for my area. The sound out of the stock Shaker 500 system is MUCH better than before, even before any tuning. The bluetooth sync with my iphone worked perfectly and is very nice and crisp. The voice recognition is much better than my D3's CD-BTB200 unit. Searched for music, phone numbers and routes all by voice. Need to get the XM activated yet, but that show be fine.

I did the bypass, but since I'm not going to take it out in the snow, I'm not sure if it's working right.

One question, does the "Caution..." splash screen come up everytime you start it? Thats kind of annoying.

Anyway, can't wait to take it out for a spin and see how it all comes together when in use.