I try to ignore the migraines, vblue. I honestly do.

lol.

any improvement in the bluetooth? especially the bluetooth audio? the one i have is terrible.

and do you know if asian language is supported? korean in particular. my z110 cant read korean song titles/artist/etc ..

any improvement in the bluetooth? especially the bluetooth audio? the one i have is terrible.

 

and do you know if asian language is supported? korean in particular. my z110 cant read korean song titles/artist/etc ..

fyi i had bad bluetooth audio, like really choppy, it was my phone i got a 3gs and its perfect, same thing with calls

any improvement in the bluetooth? especially the bluetooth audio? the one i have is terrible.

 

and do you know if asian language is supported? korean in particular. my z110 cant read korean song titles/artist/etc ..

fyi i had bad bluetooth audio, like really choppy, it was my phone i got a 3gs and its perfect, same thing with calls

ahh.. okay... i have an iphone 3g. maybe it'll get better once i upgrade to the iphone 4g! =)

Seriously this is an A+ upgrade even without the Navi being upgraded... This is so much better than anything I've ever seen in an in-dash head unit. I'm so glad I went with the z110BT instead of the newest Alpine... When I first saw the vids my first reaction was OMG I wonder if the scrolling actions will work well with an upgraded z110BT and now that I find out there will be no hardware differences I'm so excited that theoretically my unit will perform just as well as what I've seen in the vids with the new software. WELL DONE Pioneer! This is just amazing work and finally some innovation in the in-dash head unit arena.

Well in my opinion, although the interface is much improved, the current AV interface works just fine. They should have dedicated that R&D more to bringing the navi to current standards and completely left the useless eco interface out of this unit altogether.

Well in my opinion, although the interface is much improved, the current AV interface works just fine. They should have dedicated that R&D more to bringing the navi to current standards and completely left the useless eco interface out of this unit altogether.

Agreed...But after watching your vids on the Kenwood... My first thinking is that the Kenwood(while awesome) is just too convoluted.... looks very un-organized/ugly layout.... too much going on on the main screens....

If I was always sitting still and had the time and/or patience, I'd be all over the Kenwood stuff.... But from a "moving" stand point... their UI is more of a distraction from the road... they do have some cool offerings.... But IMO...it's more "eye-candy" then it is actually safe, and easy to use while in motion... It also seems to lag fairly heavy....

But I agree...unless the unit is tapped into my vehicles' ECU...the Eco BS is useless... of course...IMO only...

I agree 100% with everything you just stated in that last post. Here is my hope as to what Pioneer is planning with this Z110BT chain. Year one, release the unit without any major issues. I think success there pretty much compared to what was available on the market then. Year two, upgrade the av section into a very user friendly and safe to use unit and make it an upgrade for the previous model. Year 3 (this is my hope anyway) Pioneer focuses their attention on the shortcomings of the navi on this unit. Once again making it into another upgrade for the 2 preceding year's models. If they do indeed do this, this thing will be by far the best unit on the market IMO. It is just wishful thinking at the moment but Pioneer did this on their last Z series. Mind you the upgrades were not near as large as what is already coming this year. I sure hope I am right. It would be awesome to have that new interface and a nav section that is first rate to go along with it. It is the only thing lacking right now IMO.

The update part # is CNSD110FM, We just ordered 10 of them selling price $200 WOW!comes on SD. It's the 2010 map update and firmware update to match the Z120.

I'm sorry if I am missing something here, but I am still wondering when the Z120BT will be released? I am in the market to buy a new system now and don't want to buy the Z110BT, only to have the next greatest thing come out a week later. I understand that I could buy an upgrade to the Z110BT, but I might as well just get the Z1290BT, right?

Thanks Guys

At several hundred dollars more for a 120 then you will spend for a 110 with the 120 upgrade. Its up to you but you will save quite a bit of money by getting a 110 now. They are the same unit so there is nothing in the form of the next greatest thing coming out.

I can't even find the Z120 on sale anywhere, so I don't have any idea how much it costs? Is it even on sale yet? So, you are suggesting getting the 110 now and then purchasing the upgrade? Do you know when the upgrade is coming out? When I said "next greatest thing", I meant the newest version. It sounds like the 120 software is much better than the 110, correct? Sorry to bog you down with questions, but I want to get the best and this forum provides great info.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Did you even read this thread or what I just wrote to you? Go back and read the thread. The reason you cant find the 120 for sale is because it hasn't been released yet. As stated in this thread.

Sorry, I was just sort of skimming and missed the release time. I see one guy posted the update is $200 and comes on SD card. Sounds like he was able to purchase 10 of them, but I can't find them anywhere?

There not available yet.

Update will be done by using SD card...3 seperate updates to complete fully

Yes I have seen it done

Nevermind...didnt see 2nd page

go buy a z110bt at 800 to 900 bucks now and then wait for the release of the updated software update..the z110 is all the same hardware..i will bet vblues sanity(if it still remains after this thread) that the 120 will be well over 1500 when released(i havent looked for any pricing just lazy and guessing based on the 110 old pricing)...you will save big bucks

Update will be done by using SD card...3 seperate updates to complete fully

Does the update come with 3 SD cards? Or are you saying that it takes 3 "boots" to finish the update?

Also, can you confirm that the part number is CNSD-110FM?

Update will be done by using SD card...3 seperate updates to complete fully

 

Does the update come with 3 SD cards? Or are you saying that it takes 3 "boots" to finish the update?

Also, can you confirm that the part number is CNSD-110FM?

The procedure I seen each update had to be on the root of the SD card and just used a computer to copy it to one card each time...only 1 of the updates required a reboot, 3 seperate cards would make it easier. The total size is 4gb

I am not sure of the real part#

For those of you who have seen the new software in action. Did you notice any changes in the voice-activated controls

That part number, CNSD-110FM, is showing that it will be available July 2010.

July 12th makes me sad I was hoping for some time this month for the update.

I remember an argument earlier about the hardware of the 2 units. Everyone said it is the same but a Pioneer rep said they have more ram or something. Is this false?