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New Z120BT vs. Z110BT

By VBLUE42 · Apr 29, 2010in General💬 138 posts👁️ 39,881 views
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Posted Jun 11, 2010 · 02:46 UTC#101

Excuse me if this was already asked but does the Z120 allow you to use the rear view camera and navi (side map) while driving like the Z2 did?

Posted Jun 11, 2010 · 02:53 UTC#102
Excuse me if this was already asked but does the Z120 allow you to use the rear view camera and navi (side map) while driving like the Z2 did?

 

It does... but it's a PITA to get to....

takes like....4 button presses....versus just 2 like the OG Z's

Posted Jun 11, 2010 · 03:27 UTC#103

There should be a map view short cut with the 120 that you can add to the short cuts screen.

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 05:43 UTC#104

Are the map updated ever offered for less than MSRP? I remember someone mentioning that they are offered for less than MSRP but i can't seem to find the thread.

 

Jay

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 05:45 UTC#105

Not if you are buying from Pioneer.

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 06:02 UTC#106

Thanks. The only other place I could find was Amazon for 220. Thats for 20 bucks more than Pioneer's price. Also assuming that Pioneer gives us another upgrade next year. From peoples experience can I just upgrade from 09 software to 2011 software . my maps are ok for now. Would be pretty out in 2 yrs

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 06:34 UTC#107

Yes.

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 06:41 UTC#108

Thanks

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 15:26 UTC#109

Just me or does the Pioneer maps suck really badly? My new 120 doesnt seem to have many streets in Merced, CA. And those roads were put in years ago.

Posted Jun 12, 2010 · 20:24 UTC#110

Thats been a compliant across various units for quite a while now.

Posted Jun 13, 2010 · 16:28 UTC#111

Oh, I see. I have one question. When I choose to goto a destination, the route preview shows all streets and how to get there and what not. But after I click ok, there isnt any streets at all on the screen... Weird

Posted Jun 13, 2010 · 16:30 UTC#112

What do you mean there are no streets?

Posted Jun 14, 2010 · 01:45 UTC#113

There are all of the streets on the page to confirm the destination. (Page with OK, Waypoint) but as soon as I click ok, the streets disappear.

Posted Jun 14, 2010 · 01:48 UTC#114

So do you just have a blank map or what? What zoom level are you set to?

Posted Jun 14, 2010 · 01:57 UTC#115

Its set to .5, and it is bascially a blank screen. All I see is the light blue floor with no streets and the fake darker blue with white cloud sky

Posted Jun 14, 2010 · 02:10 UTC#116

Over the whole map or just a section?

Posted Jun 24, 2010 · 17:14 UTC#117

Map works if I used 2D mode, but completely blank with 3D mode.

But now I have another problem.

 

I notice that only with the SD card, the audio would skip. It used to be for a few seconds, now it is only for a split second. The manual says audio or video may skip if navigation system is not firmly secured. Whats that mean? Satellite connection or something?

Posted Jun 24, 2010 · 22:02 UTC#118
Map works if I used 2D mode, but completely blank with 3D mode.

But now I have another problem.

 

I notice that only with the SD card, the audio would skip. It used to be for a few seconds, now it is only for a split second. The manual says audio or video may skip if navigation system is not firmly secured. Whats that mean? Satellite connection or something?

 

Firmly secured in that context means if the navigation unit rattles around. (But are you sure they are talking about SD cards? Usually audio skips on CD or DVD when bouncing around, but never heard of it affecting flash media before.)

 

On SD cards, you will get skipping if your media card is too slow. The device is trying to read the card but the card isn't giving up the data quickly enough. Personally I recommend the Sandisk Ultra III SD cards as a first choice and the Transcend Class 10 SD Cards as a second choice. (Not all Class 10 cards are the same. The Class 10 refers to their speed, but it is not a precise measurement, just more of a category of cards.)

 

You'll notice that the faster cards are more expensive and the slower cards are cheaper.

Posted Jun 25, 2010 · 01:56 UTC#119

Weird thing, the audio skipped (SD card) when I was driving past a certain location. It skipped at that location yesterday also. And I looked at the GPS connection screen and as the audio came back, the connection status changed from something (I assume NOK) to OK, also there were no bars present in the reception thing.

Posted Jun 25, 2010 · 05:12 UTC#120
Map works if I used 2D mode, but completely blank with 3D mode.

But now I have another problem.

 

Sounds like you need to swap out your unit.

Posted Jul 19, 2010 · 16:11 UTC#121

Did my upgrade a while back (with some insight from TSCAD - thanks !)

 

First thing I did was to make sure my destination settings were still there. Yuppers! Cool.

Next thing I did was to punch in the address of the destination I was going to. The unit refused to find the street. That really annoyed me as it's a pretty common location in the Los Angeles area. I kept trying until finally I went to the initial settings and found that "Alabama" was where it thought I was. That was quickly updated to California and all was good with the world again... (frustrating though)

 

1. First thing I noticed was that the navi voice announcements (like "turn left ahead") now also announced the street name! ("turn left ahead onto Jefferson Street") That was one of the things I always griped about in the previous version so KUDOS ! I like it.

2. Navi voice announcements were much faster and tend to 'clip' the end word. Wow, you have to listen up to catch some of these. Their much faster than the old unit and some of the words sound clipped.

 

3. Gripe #1 - No navi voice option. (male or female, etc) Gripe #2 - no speed control on the navi voice. (I'd like to slow it down just a bit)

 

4. Plugged in my Ipod and looked at the new screen. ARGGG! I'm old school and liked the old one. Now I have to learn something new again ???? Gripe #3 - Would like an option for the new or old screen format. Forced me to download the Z120 operating manual from the site. Now I just have to print it out.

 

5. That little eco bar thingymabob....even with the display option "off" it still displays. Would love to get rid of that litte annoyance. (okay, that's Gripe #4 !)

 

Overall I like the upgrade. Faster boot, street announcement.

 

Suggestions for upgrade #2. (Z130?)

A. Have two voices available for navi announcements with speed options (slow/normal). Also have a "replay" button on the screen in case you miss one.

B. Give an option for the Ipod "classic" screen setup.

C. Upgrade the voice control for the unit so I can just talk to it. "Rear view please", "kill eco display", "just play what I like". Have it learn and understand me. Have it talk to me once in a while without me saying something first. (Do the "Hal" thing...."good morning Bob".....) However, limit this a bit. Don't have it say things like "you know you're speeding don't you?" or "are you sure you know where you're going?"....

Posted Jul 19, 2010 · 16:17 UTC#122
Also have a "replay" button on the screen in case you miss one.

 

Hit the direction arrow box on the top left of the screen.

Posted Jul 19, 2010 · 16:36 UTC#123
Also have a "replay" button on the screen in case you miss one.

 

Hit the direction arrow box on the top left of the screen.

 

Hey ! Thanks ! :oops:

Posted Jul 19, 2010 · 17:10 UTC#124

How do you make it say the streets? Mine doesnt do that

Posted Jul 19, 2010 · 18:20 UTC#125
How do you make it say the streets? Mine doesnt do that

 

You need to use the TTS voice

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