On Pioneer's website for the upcoming X930, the specifications list has no check marks next to all of the voice command functions indicating that the new model will actually not have this capability. Is this true or just a mistake on the website?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/GPS-Navigation/AVIC-X930BT
Sadly, voice command was in fact removed from the X930.
That means no one that wants to keep that feature on their 920 should upgrade to the 930. Ultimately however, people wont be aware of that and will upgrade and be furious and there wont be a way to go back.
That means no one that wants to keep that feature on their 920 should upgrade to the 930. Ultimately however, people wont be aware of that and will upgrade and be furious and there wont be a way to go back.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. They must be planning on keeping the 920 separate and releasing updates for the 920 and 930 individually. no way they are going to force people to give up that feature.
As far as I know the 920 will be upgradable to the 930.
Wow way to go Pioneer and give up one of the only features that the AVICs had over Sony/Kenwoods.
Wow way to go Pioneer and give up one of the only features that the AVICs had over Sony/Kenwoods.
it does seem a bit silly
Wow way to go Pioneer and give up one of the only features that the AVICs had over Sony/Kenwoods.
Granted, the Z still has voice commands but now you could say the X is actually behind Kenwood because even their low-end navs have voice tagging capability for bluetooth.
Wait a minute....does this mean no more VOICE DIALING OF PHONE CALLS???
That can't be right....it would make no sense whatsoever to take a huge step backwards in both capability and safety while driving.
Tell me I'm misinterpreting this part. I simply CANNOT believe people won't be able to dial phone contacts by voice in the new units. This would be the most idiotic decision possible....
I think its safe to assume that sense the unit has BT built in that it will still support VR for making calls and source change. The lack of VR is likely pertaining to navi functions.
Well I don't know. If you look at the web site it indicates it doesn't support VR for anything. I guess we will have to wait and see. This certainly wouldn't be the first time Pioneer made a stupid design decision.
Pioneer dropped the ball on the 930. It was nice to see the return of the volume knob and a removable section of the face, but VR is gone and once again you have to shift to the Z to get solid preamp. To boot, why Pioneer can't move forward and do like Kenwood and release a mini tuner for XM (for those of us who would like to use XM in three cars and not pay three times what XM is worth) and/or make it possible to properly label HD radio stations is a mystery.
For those of you with X920's, you'll still have VR after upgrading to the 2011 (X930) software.
For those of you with X920's, you'll still have VR after upgrading to the 2011 (X930) software.
Will this really be an option for us 920 owners? Did they mention that at CES? Is the new 920's already preloaded with the same software as the 930? Hmmm, I'm all excited now.
Why would he have reported it if it wouldn't really be an option? 
And no, there are no 920's with the 930 software.
I just wanted to know where he got his information from. I know he's an admin here on avic411 but beyond that I don't know what qualifies him to make a statement that makes the presumption that the 920 can be programed with the 930 programing. He didn't directly say that could be done. He could have just been saying if the two could be combined you wouldn't loose your VR....
I still would like to know. The pioneer website has nothing to say about it.
He knows someone that knows. And he is more then qualified to make that statement. After all, Pioneer invited him to the release of the unit.
I guess I'll PM him on how to do it then? I'd love to be the Guinea pig for it. I haven't heard or read of anyone else doing it, have any of you guys?
I guess I'll PM him on how to do it then? I'd love to be the Guinea pig for it. I haven't heard or read of anyone else doing it, have any of you guys?
Really? you mean you didn't hear about the paid update to the F series to give them X910 series software? or the paid upgrade to give the Z110 the Z120 revision software?
I have almost no doubt whatsoever that it will be a paid upgrade, there's no "give it to me free to test"
And that upgrade wont be available for another several months.
Ahhhh yes. That makes sense to me now. So it will be driven by Pioneer and not some on line crack. I remember reading about those other upgrades for other head units but didn't make the connection with the 920 up to 930. I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for when it's released. Thanks guys.
Look for the upgrade around May.
Still doesn't make sense though... What's the incentive to buy a X-930 if we can buy X-920 and upgrade the firmware to the X-930 and keep voice commands?
Is it possible the specifications sheet is just wrong?
Still doesn't make sense though... What's the incentive to buy a X-930 if we can buy X-920 and upgrade the firmware to the X-930 and keep voice commands?
As I pointed out prior - a volume knob and removable face section. After all, not many thieves realize/understand that the 920 is password protected...
Still doesn't make sense though... What's the incentive to buy a X-930 if we can buy X-920 and upgrade the firmware to the X-930 and keep voice commands?
Is it possible the specifications sheet is just wrong?
Eventually you wont have the option to buy a 920. If you currently have a 920 it wouldnt make sense to buy a 930 but for everyone else they wont have that option.
an no, the specs sheet isnt wrong. it has been confirmed from a variety of sources.