I understand Pioneers liability, but do they really need much more than a label?

Clearly they think they do.

Doesn't mean it wont lock you out soon. Thats what the other units do but thats with the navi units. Sense this isn't actually considered a navi unit, it may be a more simple bypass proceeder. If it locks you out soon however you'll know why.

 

i'm hoping for a firmware update for the current bum interface. hopefully they won't kill the brake switch bypass in the process.

Has anyone tried it with the TR-7 module? I heard that the unit only asks for the brake signal whenever Youtube or Netflix is to be used, if so what will trigger the module? I have done the relay setup for another radio but this is checked on startup because it uses the HU's remote signal to trigger the relay, after startup.

Has anyone tried it with the TR-7 module? I heard that the unit only asks for the brake signal whenever Youtube or Netflix is to be used, if so what will trigger the module? I have done the relay setup for another radio but this is checked on startup because it uses the HU's remote signal to trigger the relay, after startup.

 

i haven't tried it with the module. you're right in thinking that it only asks for the brake sequence when you're using app mode and use netflix (or any other app that outputs video) or keyboard entry (example: searching in maps.app). the previous relay setup won't work. i tried using the relay i made for my

AVH 3300BT and it won't work for the reasons you stated above.

Even when I have the e-brake on and when car isn't even moving.. how do you get netflix to work or youtube?

I am using display out.

I tried grounding it but it doesn't work.. can anyone confirm that the TR7 works or another solution that someone is using?

Here's how I use Netflix. I open the appradio app and then once it's open double click the home button on the phone so the you can scroll through the other apps across the bottom of the screen. If you opened up Netflix recently it makes it a little easier because it will be one of the first apps shown. Once you open Netflix video displays to the car while the functions are controlled on the phone. I use a toggle switch on mine to unground, and ground, the parking brake safety wire.

If you have it hooked up right hit the apps button on the deck. Hit netflix on your phone. It should give you the parking brake warning.

If you have it hooked up right hit the apps button on the deck. Hit netflix on your phone. It should give you the parking brake warning.

 

Yes however when you click apps on the phone don't you need to turn on the Appradio app on the iphone first?

I haven't tried a toggle switch yet and it gives me the "parking brake warning" however when I lift my e-brake up and release

the "OK" never lights up.

However let me try what you said and see if it works

To get apps to work/semi work you dint use the appradio app. If i want to listen to an audible book in my audible app i hit the apps buttin on tge deck and then open audible on my phone an use tge phone to control everything. I heve a toggle switch hooked up.

as stated, don't start up appradio.app on your phone. hit apps on the radio then do the brake sequence thing until you are able to push OK on the radio. it may take more than one time going through that sequence. you can then press ok on the radio then start Netflix. do not use display out with Netflix since Netflix.app outputs video natively.

Hey um.... Am I the only one building a relay off the remote wire for the last I don't know how many years to bypass pioneer radios?

is that normal that this wire is delivering 4Volts...to contact directly to the ground ???

just a question...

I have put the TR-7 module on it and it isn't always working. It is actually more times then it works. I think it deals with the amount of time the radio takes to actually boot from being cold.

To bypass the radio, you will need to get a Pac TR7 and a standard relay. The relay wiring will be:

85 - Blue wire on the TR7

86 - White eand Orange wire from the TR7

87 - Tied to 86 on the relay

30 - parking break wire on the Pioneer

Wiring for the TR7:

Red - ignition source

Black - ground

Green - remote wire on the Pioneer

Orange - 86 & 87 on the relay

White - 86 & 87 on the relay

Blue - 85 on the relay

The TR7 will need to be setup for feature 12. The settings will be:

Option 1 - 1 delayed on for Blue

Option 2 - 2 delayed off for White

Option 3 - 1 delayed for Orange

Duration 1 - 040 (40 seconds)

Duration 2 - 045 (45 seconds)

Duration 3 - 050 (50 seconds)

The way that it works is: the radio remote provides the + trigger to the TR7. The TR7 then supplies ground to the white wire for 45 seconds. After 40 seconds, the TR7 supplies power to the blue wire. This triggers the relay and sends ground to the pioneer parking break wire. After 5 seconds, the TR7 then puts the white wire to open and the relay then goes to open for 5 seconds. After that, the TR7 will then put ground on the orange wire causing the relay to trigger sending ground to the pioneer.

you have picture to the tr7 module please ?

 

To bypass the radio, you will need to get a Pac TR7 and a standard relay. The relay wiring will be:

 

 

 

85 - Blue wire on the TR7

 

86 - White eand Orange wire from the TR7

 

87 - Tied to 86 on the relay

 

30 - parking break wire on the Pioneer

 

 

 

Wiring for the TR7:

 

 

 

Red - ignition source

 

Black - ground

 

Green - remote wire on the Pioneer

 

Orange - 86 & 87 on the relay

 

White - 86 & 87 on the relay

 

Blue - 85 on the relay

 

 

 

The TR7 will need to be setup for feature 12. The settings will be:

 

 

 

Option 1 - 1 delayed on for Blue

 

Option 2 - 2 delayed off for White

 

Option 3 - 1 delayed for Orange

 

 

 

Duration 1 - 040 (40 seconds)

 

Duration 2 - 045 (45 seconds)

 

Duration 3 - 050 (50 seconds)

 

 

 

The way that it works is: the radio remote provides the + trigger to the TR7. The TR7 then supplies ground to the white wire for 45 seconds. After 40 seconds, the TR7 supplies power to the blue wire. This triggers the relay and sends ground to the pioneer parking break wire. After 5 seconds, the TR7 then puts the white wire to open and the relay then goes to open for 5 seconds. After that, the TR7 will then put ground on the orange wire causing the relay to trigger sending ground to the pioneer.

 

Tried this method and got the bypass working! The trickiest part for me was programming the TR7. Took me a few hundred tries (exaggerating) before I called PAC tech support. They told me to try using a pushbutton switch to pulse the brown wire and it made things so much easier!

Anyway, as per your post, it takes a little while for the bypass to kick in after you start the car. That being said, while the bypass works well initially I have had problems switching between modes (ipod, radio) and then getting back to appmode. I'm able to get to hit the app button but then all I get is a black screen even though I have an app running on my iphone 4S. Have only had the bypass working for a day so I will tinker with it more and report back with any updates.

Was enjoying the bypass and watching video when this happened

All that work wiring the bypass down the drain!

I have a relay on mine--initially, I thought it didn't work but then I figured out for some reason, I have to put the car on utility and let the radio turn on for the relay to function properly.

so much work you guys did, I just used a switch and when i want to watch i just flip the switch. i guess if you watch stuff constantly having it automated makes it nice. I just don't watch video that much unless I'm sitting in my car waiting for someone else.

I have a relay on mine--initially, I thought it didn't work but then I figured out for some reason, I have to put the car on utility and let the radio turn on for the relay to function properly.

What do mean by putting the car on Utility. I'm not sure what that means. I experience the same inconsistencies and most here. Sometimes my relay works, other times it doesn't and I think it's a tiing issue as to when you plug your phone in.

okay, I must be missing something. I spent a lot of time explaining all of this to the technician installing my appradio after christmas. He then showed me how the warning display went away after touching a wire to the car ground. He hardwired it and I never had the message since. What am I missing? I have an european model, and there is a 'safety mode' in the menu I set to OFF. I never tried flipping it.. I have a lot of apps running but was never able to display video. I can run Maps, contacts, ipod (music), StreamS, etc. Are the apps not available hidden for me?

thanks in advance.

Balazs

I dont know if theres a difference between european models but i did the switch thing, one wire is the brake wire from the radio, the other is ground,. just like a lot of people here, whenever the brake on off on prompt comes up, i just flip the switch and it works fine, really not that much of a pain in the ass,

Maybe the Euro firmware has less nag screens tha the NA models?

Do you guys think guys at appradio extension can override the ebrake with the software?