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Australian CNSD310FM 2012 Map update Group Purchase

By Ralpharn · Oct 03, 2012in Hacks/Mods💬 69 posts👁️ 17,744 views
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Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 15:16 UTC#26
The actual update would be easiest, by far.
I've got an update, here is VERINFO.DAT from Australian update:

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Edited Nov 16, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 16:02 UTC#28

hmmm... I've tried- but no success. Update just not started. I have US unit and Australian map update. So, do I miss something?

Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 16:09 UTC#29

Here is an Australian cardinfo.cifCARDINFO.cif.txt I just add .txt to get around this forum restriction.

Edited Nov 16, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 16:11 UTC#30

Ahh, so if you have US unit - the CARDINFO.CIF is for AU units.

So just for your special case, i think you can open CARDINFO.CIF in text editor. Find string X72AUS and change to X72UNC

Try that.

 

reference:

#7

 

 

also, once you share ;) for others to make the update with older units (F10 or F20), they can modify the CARDINFO.CIF as follows:

search and replace exactly this text:

2X9D7LS4DQRH

with:

X07AUSX30AUS

Edited Nov 16, 2012 by pionara
Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 16:59 UTC#31

Thanks a lot!

It works!

 

Pionara- you are magician!

 

Now I can search map by address.

 

Downsides: Languages screwed up. unit still thinks it is US. but it has no US language now. Tomorrow I'll add US English to it.

Posted Nov 16, 2012 · 17:15 UTC#32

Ralph, seems like you have the same kind of situation that user "jock" has. See this thread: #17

 

He was doing some experimentation with faking the region code on his EU unit to make it act like AU unit. But his problem was that he had EU maps in NDATA instead of AU maps. You might want to test out the same thing and see if it helps since you have "proper" NDATA for AU region. (I think you also want region code 2D)

Posted Nov 17, 2012 · 02:11 UTC#33

Ralpharn, thats great news about being able to search by address :) I'm hoping to get a copy of the update from frozenwaffles too, just want to confirm its ok with him(her?) before I send the money. Like pionara mentioned, I played around with region code tweaking and managed to get my unit to - at least in some respects - think it was an AU version. Trouble was, when I did that, it was expecting to find all the AU English voice data for turn by turn navigation, but since I have an EU its British English, there was no voice prompts because it was no longer interested in the British English voice data. Even after trying to trick my unit into thinking the british english voice data was actually the AU voice data, I still couldn't manage to make it work. But If you now have AU English voice data, then I would imagine by doing the trick that pionara guided me with, that is, tricking the device into thinking its an AU, then I think it might work.

 

So with the update card, does that literally replace the entire NDATA folder? or does it replace large chunks but keep others? Does it mean the AU update will remove all remnants of my EU NDATA folder?

Edited Nov 17, 2012 by jock
Posted Nov 17, 2012 · 02:31 UTC#34

the NDATA has maps, pois, voice data, xm logos, and some other graphics stuff. This occupies all of the second partition of flash (NAND2). When you install the major update (such as CNSD-310FM) I believe it actually does a complete replacement of the entire disk by imaging it. The NDATA.001 ... .NNN are basically a split up disk image. So you should get AU voices, pois, maps, etc. Of course in order for the app to give you the choice of picking AU language and voice, it will only do that for what it thinks are AU units - hence the need to fake the device type.

Posted Nov 17, 2012 · 21:07 UTC#35

Dear Pionara,

Thank you for your guidance. Can you also upload Ndata folder from X940BT-ish (without maps) I have problem with voice prompts and I hope I can fix it by copy "sound" folder from US unit. Also "TTSData" need some tweaks. But after update my unit has Australian files in that folders, so I need US files.

 

Another funny error after update: "Fastfood nerby" link leads to search parking nerby... :D

Edited Nov 18, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 20, 2012 · 12:29 UTC#36

I successfully installed the update. Initially, I couldn't search by address because my unit was back to thinking its an EU version (Traffic Tuner also was back to not working also). So, I went back to the VR restoration thread where Pionara had a list of device codes. I changed the AplLib.dll as per the version 4.001 offset 1AF94, to '38' which corresponded to 'X15AU0' what I guessed was an Australian F940BT. Well once I did that everything worked. Address search, traffic tuner, australian voice TTS :) So the unit is acting almost exactly like an AU unit instead of an EU now.

 

I wonder what the difference between 38 - X15AU0 and 3A - X15AUD are?

Edited Nov 21, 2012 by jock
Posted Nov 22, 2012 · 03:22 UTC#37
I changed the AplLib.dll as per the version 4.001 offset 1AF94, to '38' which corresponded to 'X15AU0' what I guessed was an Australian F940BT. Well once I did that everything worked. Address search, traffic tuner, australian voice TTS :) So the unit is acting almost exactly like an AU unit instead of an EU now.
I wonder if FM step wll be changed.
Posted Nov 22, 2012 · 08:02 UTC#38

i think i mentioned on some thread that I believe it is possible to modify configuration of several resistor banks to change the actual hardware region. There is a bank on the tuner board and another on the navi board.

 

Have a good look at the service manual - there are a few matrices that have the resistor layout for each region. Would be an interesting experiment if someone had the desire and skill to do it.

Posted Nov 22, 2012 · 09:57 UTC#39

I had AplLib.dll modified for 3.000 and my unit pertended to be Australian and had EU settings for FM. So it is possible to do just software hack for region. Now I would like to give it a go for 4.010 but I stuck at installing hackmode... "There is no applicable program" error after hackmode instalation. Can we just replace files in software update? or use your supertestmode to replace 2 files? (Navi.exe and AplLib.dll)

Edited Nov 22, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 22, 2012 · 15:18 UTC#40

just use supertestmode to replace the files. I think the "no applicable program" issue is because of the way hackmode is changing PRG.FLG and pointing to other PRG folder. Anyhow, it seems very buggy - would recommend against hackmode til condo sorts it out.

 

Also, hackmode moves av.exe to av1.exe and then puts a mortscript in as av. exe. This might also need to be undone.

Posted Nov 23, 2012 · 03:56 UTC#41
I changed the AplLib.dll as per the version 4.001 offset 1AF94, to '38' which corresponded to 'X15AU0' what I guessed was an Australian F940BT. Well once I did that everything worked. Address search, traffic tuner, australian voice TTS :) So the unit is acting almost exactly like an AU unit instead of an EU now.
I did it to my unit and now it thinks it is .... European F940bt... %))

I'll try "3A" then... ;)

Update: 3A leads to the same:

Language UK English (and hips of EU languages)

Voice: UK English (without TTS!) (and hips of EU languages)...

 

according to Pionara we have: 3 = 3,D,13,20,24,29,2D,34,38,3A (Australia)

So I'll continue to try.

 

Sorry Pionara... I'am idiot %)) I need to change 05 00 a0 e1 to 38 00 a0 e3

 

Success! Unit thinks it is in Australia now!

Voice: English Australia (TTS) Also I got school zone signs. %))

But User Interface: UK English -is it Ok?

Edited Nov 23, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 23, 2012 · 11:34 UTC#42

Even without any modification to my unit, I.e. when I first got it sent from Europe and installed it, there was no issues with receiving all FM/AM stations here, with good clarity. So I don't think its in a issue regardless of the AplLib tweak.

 

One thing I have noticed is that regardless of the state of the unit, every now and then I here a beeping sound while I'm driving. I'm not sure what this is, it may be something to do with the TMC traffic tuner alerting me to red light cameras or something, I'll look into it a bit more..

Posted Nov 23, 2012 · 15:36 UTC#43

European FM steps=Australian FM steps, So you can't have problem with Radio. I had problem because my HU is X930BT=US unit. But now it is solved.

Posted Nov 24, 2012 · 17:53 UTC#44

I'm glad to see you finally got the region changed Ralpharn.

I'm also having some problems with my unit after updating to EU v4.0 from 2.0. I don't have TTS Romanian voice anymore, I noticed that the folder TTSData does not contain the data for romanian voice, so I added it from my 2.0 backup thinking it would be an easy fix, but still the voice does not show, any ideeas on this? I don't even know if there is an Eastern Europe region code. Anyway to find out from my old 2.0 backup?

Edited Nov 24, 2012 by Tudor Z
Posted Nov 24, 2012 · 23:00 UTC#45

Hoping someone can help me here.

 

I have an '06 GTO that many may know is a rebadged Holden Monaro. Trying to stay true to the roots of the vehicle, I would like to know if it is possible to use the AU voices with my US maps in my 930BT.

 

Thanks

Edited Nov 24, 2012 by ErockZ
Posted Nov 26, 2012 · 07:41 UTC#46

I am an owner of an AU version AVIC-F40BT, which I believe is also known as AVIC-Z130BT outside of Australia.

 

I am interested in getting updated maps as well. I just recently came back from a holiday drive from Sydney to Coffs Harbour. According to the navigator, I was actually "off grid" because the maps were not up to date to reflect road changes and some roundabouts were actually traffic lights instead now.

 

Pioneer Australia and NAVTEQ seem to be extremely useless in providing map updates for this unit.

Posted Nov 26, 2012 · 14:55 UTC#47

F40 has 2012 maps. There will probably not be an update to the maps til mid to late 2013.

Since they are navteq maps, you can go to navteq website and report issues with the maps. They will fix them in future releases.

Posted Nov 26, 2012 · 23:51 UTC#48
I am an owner of an AU version AVIC-F40BT, which I believe is also known as AVIC-Z130BT outside of Australia.
AU version AVIC-F40BT- known as AVIC-Z140BT and it has so called "2012 maps".

Official navi is hopeless IMHO. Now couple of guys in Russia work for make stable hack for few programs, but main problem they have - it plays sounds only if you have mp3 playing. if it DVD, radio or you have it on OFF mode - there will be no sound from third party navi software. post-51370-0-04564600-1353973884_thumb.png Here is a picture of F930BT running 7ways software (with OSM -open source map) and bluetooth over the top- making call. And it has 6 satellites connected.

Edited Nov 27, 2012 by Ralpharn
Posted Nov 27, 2012 · 14:05 UTC#49

I'm glad to see you finally got the region changed Ralpharn.

I'm also having some problems with my unit after updating to EU v4.0 from 2.0. I don't have TTS Romanian voice anymore, I noticed that the folder TTSData does not contain the data for romanian voice, so I added it from my 2.0 backup thinking it would be an easy fix, but still the voice does not show, any ideeas on this? I don't even know if there is an Eastern Europe region code. Anyway to find out from my old 2.0 backup?

I do not know, but you may try this method:

1. choose language you do not need and it has TTS

2. Put in the Sound and TTSData folder Romanian voice files.

3. Prepare copy of Romanian voice files renamed to chosen language (see step 1.)

4. Replace chosen language files with these renamed ones. So now you have 2 copies of Romanian language in the folder but one renamed.

5. Select chosen language in settings menu.

6. Try it...

I hope you do not need to change LOPEDATA.DAT and PP.DAT files... but may be I am wrong.

Posted Nov 27, 2012 · 14:27 UTC#50

I tried doing a similar thing to get UK English TTS working for my 'pseudo' AU F930BT, using a similar method to what you mentioned Ralpharn, but couldn't get it to work. I reckon its more than just copying folders and files. I have a feeling there are files which need editing. Only once I did the map update which contained the correct language TTS data, was I able to get the voice working. Hopefully it works in Tudors case though...

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