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AppRadio2 SPH-DA100 Update V8.30

By Element905 · Feb 16, 2013in AppRadio, AppRadio 2, AppRadio 3💬 83 posts👁️ 49,898 views
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Posted Feb 16, 2013 · 04:10 UTC#1

Ok, So early this evening, Pioneer Electronics announced the long anticipated update was here! Ready for download, instructions and all. Allowing full use of the iPhone 5, with this update and a 120 dollar cable.

 

Luckily, I have the iPhone 4S, right?

 

No.

 

I completed the two stage update, looking forward to hopefully some bug fixes. I plug my phone is and, nothing. the phone made its chime to say it was loading. But no beep or reaction from the AppRadio. 

 

So I unplug it, and try the bluetooth. After a few unsuccessful tries, it finally worked. So I have one connection. But as i was trying the phone functionality, I found that when i click on my contact list, or last/missed calls. The lists show up for two seconds, and then disappear. 

 

I try the phone connection again, phone chimes for charging, and nothing from the radio. In the settings menu there is a new option. AppRadio connections. When you click here, it opens a page telling you to disconnect your device, turn its bluetooth off. and then to download their new app! CarMediaPlayer. 

 

I did this, and tried again. No luck. No connectivity. The bluetooth connection takes a long time to connect now. 

 

Why oh why did I update so soon. Pioneer really must have their heads waaay up their asses. If they don't fix this very quickly, i am stuck with an AM/FM radio. 

Posted Feb 16, 2013 · 05:57 UTC#2

it says do not update if you don't have an iphone 5 or ipod 5th gen.  Maybe put a call in to see if a downgrade if possibe.  sorry for you frustration though. i know how it feels

Posted Feb 16, 2013 · 17:08 UTC#3

DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LIGHTNING DIGITAL AV ADAPTER FOR THE IPHONE 5.

 

Just updated to the latest firmware and I also recently upgraded my iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5. I had the iPhone 4 plugged in with the radio's 30 pin connector for music and video until my av adapter came in the mail. Some results below:

 

iPhone 4 with new update FW v8.30 and AppRadio 30pin connector

iPod music - no

iPod video - no

AppRadio Apps - no

Pandora - no

Charging - yes

 

iPhone 5 with new update FW v8.30 and lightning to usb cable plugged into AppRadio usb

iPod music - no

iPod video - no

AppRadio Apps - no

Pandora - no

Charging - yes

 

iPhone 5 with new update FW v8.30 and 30 pin to lightning adapter cable plugged into AppRadio 30 pin

(same results if using 30 pin to lightning on 30 pin cable to AppRadio usb)

iPod music - no

iPod video - no

AppRadio Apps - no

Pandora - no

Charging - yes

 

iPhone 5 with new update FW v8.30 and lightning digital av adapter with standard HDMI cable

iPod music - yes (iPod icon is unusable but music plays when selected from iPhone)

iPod video - yes

AppRadio Apps - yes

Pandora - yes

Charging - yes (with lightning to usb cable plugged into AppRadio usb)

iPhone to AppRadio screen mirroring - yes

 

My iPhone 5 is on FW 6.0.1, jailbroken with evasi0n with AT&T

 

I don't understand why Pioneer is charging $60 for an HDMI cable that they call the IH-202. I bought a cheap HDMI cable off ebay for $2 and it works fine. The HDMI port on the back of the stereo doesn't have much room for HDMI cables that may have a larger plastic end.

Edited Feb 16, 2013 by v1lakon3
Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 14:38 UTC#4

I trying to upgrade It says on the upgrade screen can not read USB file how come I get that

Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 15:22 UTC#5

First, about the special pioneer cable, I believe it allows you to have access to a "front facing" USB port for easy of use for future firmware updates. 

 

Second, I learned from last update that the update file and USB thumb drive can be very finicky. I tried several USB drives as did my local Best Buy.  We finally got one to work.  But it took several iterations to get to that point.  ALong the way I got errors saying there was more than 1 file in the root location, as well as cant ready USB.  

 

So just try a few or if you have a local auto shop, see if the have had success.  :)

Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 21:33 UTC#6

Second, I learned from last update that the update file and USB thumb drive can be very finicky. I tried several USB drives as did my local Best Buy.  We finally got one to work.  But it took several iterations to get to that point.  ALong the way I got errors saying there was more than 1 file in the root location, as well as cant ready USB.  

So just try a few or if you have a local auto shop, see if the have had success.   :)

 

I can vouch for that. A lot of the "modern" flash drives have issues because they're not strictly a USB Mass Storage Device. A lot of flash drives have U3, or other features that interfere with units like the AVIC.

The most basic the flash drive the better. Most of the older 2GB and smaller ones should work without a problem.

Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 23:25 UTC#7

I tried 5 different flash drives non of them work for the new update

Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 23:39 UTC#8

I tried 5 different flash drives non of them work for the new update

Are they Fat32 formatted?

Posted Feb 17, 2013 · 23:58 UTC#9

Don't know I will look and see

Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 00:18 UTC#10

Must be FAT32 and an older/smaller generation USB stick. The firmware file must also be the only file on the drive.

Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 16:58 UTC#11

I don't know about the flash drive business but it says it pretty clearly on their site that If you do not have an iPhone 5 to avoid this update. It has no bug fixes, it removes the ability to use the built in iPod app, and defaults the machine to use the port on the back for power only.

 

If you have an iPhone 5 this is the upgrade you have been waiting for. It you do not, DO NOT UPGRADE!

 

 

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100) look at the last line. "No need to install this update if you do not have an iPhone 5 or fifth generation iPod touch."

Edited Feb 18, 2013 by dannyz3343
Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 20:03 UTC#12

Stupid question but.?

Is appradio 2 and iPhone 5 with the proper plugins and updates work like it used to with iPhone 4. Touch screen app works again.?

Thanks.

Edited Feb 18, 2013 by Falkey_01
Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 20:53 UTC#13

Yes. You need to purchase an apple lightning to HDMI adaptor but yes, this update allows you to regain (near) full functionality of your appradio using your iPhone 5. 

Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 21:04 UTC#14

I give up trying to update my appradio 2 I did everything and it still says The version up file can't be read

Posted Feb 18, 2013 · 23:14 UTC#15

Thanks.

I'm currently using appradio 1 with an ipod touch. I don't mind the radio and I'm thinking of upgrading to the appradio 2. I have all the apple connectors and hdmi ready to go. So as long as the touch screen functions work ok. i think I might buy appradio 2. So do apps like waze and pandora all still work thru the touchscreen.?

Posted Feb 19, 2013 · 04:19 UTC#16

So do apps like waze and pandora all still work thru the touchscreen.?

Currently using an iPhone 5 w/digital av adapter on AppRadio 2 (SPH-DA100):

 

I haven't used waze but pandora works with the AppRadio touchscreen like its supposed to. I had the AppRadio 1 and upgraded to the 2 and its a world of difference. I really like the ability to be able to mirror my iPhone to the AppRadio so I can basically use any app I want on the bigger screen.

Posted Feb 19, 2013 · 04:38 UTC#17

Alright. Thank you. I'll probably do the upgrade this weekend.

Posted Feb 19, 2013 · 16:09 UTC#18

I wonder the iPod button doesn't work is a bug... Hope to see more feedback from AppRadio2 + iPhone 5 owner.

Posted Feb 19, 2013 · 17:07 UTC#19

Hi all, I'm an happy owner of an EU version of the Appradio2 and an iPhone 5. I just upgraded my unit to firmware v8.30. all went fine. hooked my iphone5 to the lightning adapter.

 

Bluetooth connection is fine, iphone5 digital av is fine too. System language is no more in Italian, only English or Spanish. Ok no worry English is good for me. BUT...

 

when entering in the apps page, app is launched fine but on the screen i get: Viewing of front seat video source is prohibited etc etc. Oh oh my parking brake wire is still connected to ground but now the unit seems to not accept it anymore. Do I need the pac tr7 bybass? is it working for anyone on 8.30 ?? or can i get a EU firmware for the unit??

 

many thanks,

--

matteo

Posted Feb 20, 2013 · 00:18 UTC#20

Finally got the update to work pioneer does not explain that you have to put one file at a time them plug each file in the appradio. I like the update but a lot of the apps don't work yet hopefully the apps update soon

Posted Feb 22, 2013 · 17:06 UTC#21

Well I went and purchased app radio 2 last night to replace my old app radio 1. I installed it and did all the updates for the iPhone 5 and used all the proper apple cables. Except for a regular hdmi (which works fine). I think. The pioneer cable that you have to buy might include an hdmi and a new usb to pioneer deck connector minus the old 30 pin connector.So if anyone is thinking of making the jump, I'd say do it. So far driving around this morning I find app radio 2 much faster then the previous one. The waze GPS traffic app works but doesn't fit on the screen. I assume an update soon will fix that. I will post more later.

Currently using an iPhone 5 w/digital av adapter on AppRadio 2 (SPH-DA100):I haven't used waze but pandora works with the AppRadio touchscreen like its supposed to. I had the AppRadio 1 and upgraded to the 2 and its a world of difference. I really like the ability to be able to mirror my iPhone to the AppRadio so I can basically use any app I want on the bigger screen.

Posted Feb 24, 2013 · 21:43 UTC#22

When running apps If I put my iphone 5 in lock mode the whole screen goes blank on the appradio 2

Edited Feb 24, 2013 by HollywoodzFinest
Posted Feb 25, 2013 · 11:14 UTC#23

That's because the iPhone won't output to an external display when the screen is off. That's how it's always been, whether it be the appradio 1 or 2. 

Edited Feb 25, 2013 by dannyz3343
Posted Feb 25, 2013 · 17:21 UTC#24

I am looking at purchasing an APPRADIO 2, since BestBuy and Crutchfield have them on sale right now.  I did hava couple of quick questions on the new firmware and the iPhone 5.

 

I have both a 5 and a 4s (one is personal, the other is a work phone).  Am I able to add a USB splitter to the back of the deck and run both sets of cables so I can use either or, or will I only be able to use one or the other with the current firmware?

 

Also, both of my devices are jailbroken.  Does appradio extentions still work?

 

Lastly, does the TR7 relay still work as well?

 

TIA!!!  :)

Posted Feb 25, 2013 · 17:49 UTC#25

I managed to get my AppRadio 2 updated this weekend. For those who have an iMac, I learned the update process does not work with a MAC in the middle. I had to boot into my Bootcamp Windows 7, format as FAT32 and copy the yak file, do first update, then delete yak file and copy the hat file. I guess the Mac Disk Utility FAT format is insufficient. Must be formatted via Windows.

 

Lastly, I have the new Pioneer cable on its way. But in the meantime I am using a standard HDMI cable to Lightning HDMI AV adapter and my Lighting to USB cable plugs into a USB cigarette power adapter for chamfering. I still have the original 30pin cable connected. I may try changing the setting back from IPhone AV to OTHER and see if I can use the iPod still with the 30pin to Lightning Adapter.

 

My initial thoughts are this:

1) great to have appmode back, however many apps old and new still are not ready for this iPhone configuration. Lots of bugs to work out. Waze and other Nav apps look way off or just mirror only. I was looking forward to trying out iHeartAuto, but sadly there is an issue with iOS 6.1 its still working through compatibility issues. So its still inoperable.

2) Luckliy the Pioneer apps work great, such as Maps, MixTraxx, Car Media Player, and the embedded Pandora App.

3) no more use of the embedded iPod app, which sort of sucks because it was like instant music on when I would plug in and start the vehicle. Now I have to let the AppRadio control app to pair before I can do music off my iPhone. There is still Pandora. I tend to go in phases between my music and Internet music. MixTaxx is a nice balance of pulling from cloud Internet music and your own music now. So that is a bonus.

4) it takes about a full minute for the AppRadio app to fully pair and become available for use. Which can be frustrating given there isn't am instant play option anymore.

 

Lastly, as someone who has not been in advanced appmode in months, there are a lot of nice changes and surprises! The favorites on bottom of the AppRadio control app, app history, post current location, and a great compromise between the big fat buttons and smaller buttons.

 

There is still much to look forward to, but I am still very happy to be on the right track!

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