I just recieved, and professionally installed my x950bh into my FR-S. I have the CD-IH202 all digital kit and the Apple lightning to HMDI adapter. Everything is plugged up, and the phone charges and goes "blue" at the top indicating an HDMI conneciton. I launch the AppRadio app and nothing happens. My "APPS" globe on the main screen never lights up, and I never get a request on my iPhone for a connection to AppRadio. I tested the Apple Lightning to HDMI on my HDTV and video works, the pass thru for lightning also works on my PC, but when I connect it ot the x950bh it never activates Appradio OR the iPod controls. If I skip the HDMI adapter from Apple and plug in the lightning direct to the x950bh it will pull up iPod on the screen but all audio comes from the iPhone (since the HDMI is not plugged in). I read in the instructions that a "firmware update" was coming to make it work, but I thought they x950bh already came iPhone 5 ready out of the box with version 1.0 software. Is it the other units that are recieivng updates or should I be waiting on one as well? I also have iOS 6.1.2 which is .0.2 above the release requirements, but surely that update (that targeted Exchange issues) didnt break the phone? Ideas?

Do you have the Pioneer AppRadio application installed and running on your iphone before you try to make the connection?

Yes. I launched the app first before connecting it. I restarted the phone a couple of times to ensure it works. I deleted the app, re installed the app, no avail.

The printed instructions said that there was a firmware update on the way?  Was it a paper insert or card that came with the owners manual?  I am getting an iPhone 5 and this unit as well but I am worried about going through the same.  When checking Pioneer's site for Firmware & Updates it doesn't list anything.  It just asks me to register so I guess they would email a link of available updates?

It is in the instruction manual, though the manual covers several models, so maybe it was referring to them instead of the x950. Either way, like you I realized there isnt a firmware update to change the situation. I have tried a different HDMI, lightning cable, and this afternoon will try a different Apple HDMI converter (though the one I have sends HDMI just fine to my TV's). If none of this works, its got to be something in the software of the receiver, or a hardware problem on the receiver. I wish I had not sold my iPhone 4 or I would have tested it with a 30 pin cable to see if it works that way.

HEY!!!!!!!

i didn't know the 950 was out yet!? please tell me where you purchased it from.... i've been looking for the release date but have been unable to find it!

eBay and Amazon both have it, it came out on March 1 along with the z150bh.

I am in the same boat. I purchases the X950BH and the cable kit and cannot get the my iphone to be recognized for playing music or app mode. Guess we will have to wait for firmware to come out. Spent an hour on the phone for Pioneer tech support and they were clueless once they answered.

Hey TechUnplugged, check this out for me if you would. Verify that your lightning to HDMI works the same as mine:

When plugged into the phone, and HDMI only (say to a HDTV) video output works fine. You can see your iPhone screen on your HDTV

When plugged into the phone, and another lightning cable it plugged in (but not the HDMI) it will pass CHARGE from your computer, but wont SYNC to iTunes.

That is how mine works. Is this HOW its suppose to work? No data over lightning via the pass through? If so, then how is the AVIC getting its data, from the bluetooth setup the same way the older APPRADIOs do?

I am wondering if my lightning to HDMI adapter is bad since it only passes power via lightning and no data. If yours is the same though, it may just be an AVIC firmware issue.

Also does your AVIC x950 connect using Pandora on the screen? Mine doesnt, it remains greyed out.

I also went through Pioneers support, and no one seems to know whats going on. I am now seeing it promptly on the x950bh's pioneer page http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/GPS-Navigation/AVIC-X950BH that it is "iPhone® 5 Compatible with CD-IH202 Cable Kit and Firmware Update"

Well, I have the cable kit, I am guessing there is a yet unreleased firmware to give it full iPhone 5 support.

For those wanting to know where it is in the manual, page 127. "to utilize compatible applications via appradio mode with iphone 5 ipod touch (5th generation) you must first update the Pioneer navigation systems firmware."

Embarrassingly enough I just found the final nail in this posts coffin...

"Phone 5 compatibility requires a free firmware update from Pioneer
(available Spring 2013) and the purchase of the CD-IH202 interface cable
kit (sold separately), Apple® Lightning Digital AV adapter (sold
separately), and Apple Lightning to USB cable (sold separately)."

Looks like it is coming Spring 2013... I will just have to wait, at least its not my AVIC, cables or apple to hdmi adapter.

Isn't it amazing that Pioneer support is unaware of what's even posted on their website?  Do these people have any kind of training or research at all?  You would think they would have lists of issues like that attached to each product for when people call.  Inexcusable!  Another case in point:  If you do a comparison between the Z150 and the X950BH, it notes that only the Z150 has Text-To-Speech but in actuality they both have that feature so here again the website isn't even 100% accurate.

Anyway, please let us know if this update works for you when it's released.  I'm buying a new car within four weeks and then the X950BH probably two weeks after that so hopefully within six weeks time this will all be ironed out.

Thanks.

PS: Next dilemma - the bypass procedure.

Will do, and yes... the bypass procedure... I havent found one that works when the car is in motion.

Please let us know if you intend to try the Nag Screen hack that has been used on many older models and if you do whether it works or if there will have to be changes to which hex code gets changed etc. This is one thing holding me up from upgrading to the

950.

Also, if anyone out there tries the 950 with appmode and an Android phone via Hdmi, let us know how it works.

Thanks.

I wish I could get the "nag screen" to go away for the Map, and the motion detector disabled for the buttons greying out.

I have the parking brake wire grounded, and it registers that in the information menu, I also grounded the pin next to the mute as another post here stated would work for the x850, but it doesnt seem to have anyeffect. I think the "3D" sensors inside the unit are a part of the motion security. As soon as I start moving most of the buttons grey out, once I come to a stop it lights back up. That to me is a bigger problem than the one nag screen that happens on the first start of the map
screen. More than likely we will need some code adjusted inside the unit. I havent tried to boot from TestMode yet.

Bummer.

Will do, and yes... the bypass procedure... I havent found one that works when the car is in motion.

I found one that works. It's the same one used for the X850BT. I can watch a movie orutilize the GPS while moving. I just get a notice every so often saying that the radio detected that parking brake wiring being incorrect.

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/36184-avic-x850bt-bypass/

I just finished my install of the x950bh.  I performed the bypass by moving the mute pin to the empty slot directly next to the mute wire.  I then grounded the mute and parking wires.  Seems to have worked for me.  I have full control of everything while moving at 40mph.

Also, I have a Galaxy S3 and can successfully stream via bluetooth.  However, I am not able to control Pandora or Aha through the nav unit - it just picks up the streaming signal from the phone.  I thought that via android you could have control of these apps directly from the nav unit???

I cant control Pandora or Aha via bluetooth to my iPhone either, I think it requires the cable... not sure though since NOTHING works on mine when it comes to apps. I get the notice saying that the radio detected the parking brake wiring being incorrect as well. I can access the navigation screen as well, and I can go and select "take me home" and "POI" but everything else is greyed out until I stop moving. I can set the EQ while driving (very eye intensive) but cant adjust volume levels - forward/backward/left/right... I am not sure Pioneer thought out what should be blocked and shouldnt while moving (though I dont want anything blocked...). A new APPRADIO update just came out to support iOS 6.1 (which I am running) so I am going to test it in a few minutes to see if MAYBE it works now.

I cant control Pandora or Aha via bluetooth to my iPhone either, I think it requires the cable... not sure though since NOTHING works on mine when it comes to apps. I get the notice saying that the radio detected the parking brake wiring being incorrect as well. I can access the navigation screen as well, and I can go and select "take me home" and "POI" but everything else is greyed out until I stop moving. I can set the EQ while driving (very eye intensive) but cant adjust volume levels - forward/backward/left/right... I am not sure Pioneer thought out what should be blocked and shouldnt while moving (though I dont want anything blocked...). A new APPRADIO update just came out to support iOS 6.1 (which I am running) so I am going to test it in a few minutes to see if MAYBE it works now.

Did you move the mute wire and ground it with the parking brake or did you add a second wire to the empty slot next to the mute wire and ground it with the parking brake (leaving the mute wire to go nowhere)?  Guess it shouldn't matter but curious why this works for some and not others unless it's loose in the molex connector by chance.

Also, is this update for iOS 6.1 the "Spring" update we've been waiting for so that the NAV units will work with the iPhone 5 or some other update for the AppRadio head units?

Thanks.

I just checked to see if the 2.1.0 AppRadio software fixed my AppRadio, it did not.

I did not use the mute wire cable, I added a new wire to the empty slot next to the mute wire and grounded it (along with the parking brake). The mute cable has tape around it, and is not connected to anything. If it is not inserted into the molex connector, I do not get the error saying "parking brake wire incorrect". I always have the parking brake wire grounded, without it nothing would work at speed. Do you have your VSS wire plugged in? I am wondering if that is throwing my results off since it can still detect vehicle speed.

I just checked to see if the 2.1.0 AppRadio software fixed my AppRadio, it did not.

 

I did not use the mute wire cable, I added a new wire to the empty slot next to the mute wire and grounded it (along with the parking brake). The mute cable has tape around it, and is not connected to anything. If it is not inserted into the molex connector, I do not get the error saying "parking brake wire incorrect". I always have the parking brake wire grounded, without it nothing would work at speed. Do you have your VSS wire plugged in? I am wondering if that is throwing my results off since it can still detect vehicle speed.

I thought we needed to wait for a head unit firmware update to address the Appradio issues with the iPhone 5 (not the Appradio software) but I'm not 100% sure.

I don't have the unit yet but I was wondering about the VSS connection myself (although you need that for tunnels, etc.).

I don't even have this unit yet and I'm frustrated as I'm not too eager to dive into these issues.  The Appradio 2.1.0 reviews on iTunes were all poor.  Everything's broken according to the reviewers.  Pioneer really has some work ahead of them it seams.

I have been on the phone with Pioneers tech support, and they dont seem to know anything about a firmware update though Pioneers site for the x950bh clearly states it has one coming in "Spring" (Spring officially starts TOMORROW). I have emailed Pioneer as well to see if I can contact someone with actual knowledge of the x950bh. (Someone who wont reference the manual would be awesome, I have now read it front to back.)

Buying this unit now is putting yourself in the 'early adopter' group. I understood that, and I am fine with it. It is actually a very nice unit, and everything else seems to work great. It boots FAST compared to my f700, the XM, FMHD, CD/DVD Bluetooth Audio quality is excellent. The built in Nav is up to date in a way that my iPhone map applications (Navigon, Google, and Apple Maps) are not (It actually had the new by-pass going to my parents!). Traffic works GREAT and has already helped me avoid jams several times. As soon as the AppRadio issue is fixed, and someone can get a successful "hex hack" (It may never happen with Pioneers newest secure OS) to rid us of the warning prompts, it will be exactly what I was hoping for.

I "hoped" the iOS app update of AppRadio to 2.1.0 would fix it, it did not. I am guessing that the "Spring" firmware update is the only way to go. The thing that gets me though, several menus seem to already address the iPhone 5. You can select iPhone mode and select whether you are using the "30 pin" dock connector, or if you are using the "AV connection kit" which on this unit, would be HDMI, which means... iPhone 5. If you select Android, it simply uses serial bluetooth and doesnt prompt you for an "AV connection kit" So it seems the 1.00000 version of the OS has part of iPhone 5 integration in place already, just not all of it?

I guess in time it will get released but what I want to know is how are we going to know this firmware update is available?  Did you register your unit with Pioneer to be alerted for such updates?  I couldn't find a support tab on the website that lists prior updates with release notes.  Definately another company that has a lack of communication between all of its employees.

I just check their site daily hoping it is there. I registered my unit with them in order to get tech support (though they have not responded in the last 24 hours). I believe that entitles me to automatic notification when new firmware arrives.

I just check their site daily hoping it is there. I registered my unit with them in order to get tech support (though they have not responded in the last 24 hours). I believe that entitles me to automatic notification when new firmware arrives.

After searching around, I believe I have found where these firmware updates will be posted.  Obviously the firmware & software section for the product (doh!):

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/avicfirmware/?SelectURL=&x=132&y=17

or

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/ch.GPS-Navigation.Support

Don't know why I couldn't find this the first time around.  Anyway, none posted for the X950BH as of yet anyway.