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By diablo2112 · Mar 23, 2014in NEX Series💬 87 posts👁️ 31,149 views
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Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 01:01 UTC#51

Thanks diablo2112 for all the assistance!

 

I got the AWSC-1 but mine does not have any Can bus connections in the instructions.  Maybe due to differences in the car.  My AWSC-1 does have a 3.5 male connector but they say connect to the location as explained by the manufacture - pioneer does not give any instructions except for the iDatalink which is not available for my car.  So contacted AXXEXX (Metra) - they requested a picture of the back of the unit. Sent them one, we shall see.

 

As for Reverse sense, wow, we think alike, I did exactly the same thing (ran a wire from the reverse taillight to a switch under the steering wheel for the backup camera) naturally have not tried it yet but glad to see that this train of thought will work.

Thanks again!!!!!

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 01:10 UTC#52

Just got a 7000NEX and trying to install.  Couple of quick questions if you would. 

 

1. The orange/white lighting switch wire, did you connect that to a 12volt lead off the lighting switch? 

 

I am thinking of connecting to a panel light that comes on only when the lights are on but it is 12volt and don't want to fry the unit if that will not work.  Manual is pretty weak in this area.

 

2. And the light green parking brake lead, was that to 12volts? 

 

If so why not connect to 12volts hot.  Yea would love to bypass the parking brake deal altogether but read the unit will sense movement and still fail to enable all features and apparently other bypass tricks have not worked.  (Would love to have dvd and backup camera ability while driving forward).

 

3. As for the reverse gear signal input (violet/white wire), again, is that 12volt, was going to try to connect to the shifter light that illuminates "R" when the shifter is in reverse but believe it is 12volt also, afraid of connecting 12volts to any lead that does not say it should be a 12volt connection.

 

Going slowly here to try to accomplish correctly in the SLK.

 

Did you install any type of SWC unit (steering wheel control) to enable the steering wheel buttons.  Looked at the iDatalink site but they do not make a unit for Mercedes, so going to try the ASWC-1 Metra Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface Module (but again not sure of where one connection for it goes and no reply from them yet).  Email support poor.

 

Thanks

Is there a CAN bus adapter for the Mercedes like there is for GM cars? iDatalink, perhaps? It'll give you all of the outputs you need...parking brake, reverse, speed pulse and instrument lighting without having to hack into wiring.

 

The parking brake does not go to 12 volts hot. It would go to ground. There's something else that needs to be done to bypass it, regardless, that lead would be grounded.

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 02:34 UTC#53

In the back of the radio there should a two 3.5mm inputs. One is for A/V and the second is for steering wheel. I think it should say "steering wheel control" indented to on the aluminum. Just saying. i havent seen the back of mines yet.

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 13:23 UTC#54

Actually there are 3 - 3.5 mm input plugs on the back of the unit! One for Aux (external video component), or (iPhone with 30 pin connector), One for wired remote input (sold separately), and One for rear audio output.  I am hoping the one for wired remote input will do the trick with the axxexx/metra steering wheel control.  We shall see this weekend.

 

Ah, parking brake to ground, thanks.  See the bypass instructions are now on this site, will definitely give that a try this weekend too!

 

Guess you cant paste a photo into this text box, trying to determine how to add it to the "My Media" area so the picture will be available.

 

If I can get the install completed will try the brake bypass and make a video of it.

 

Thanks.

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 22:22 UTC#55

...Map colors are atrocious and cannot be changed.  There's a setting to apply a "theme" to day and night mode, but only one choice is available on the menu (curiously labelled "dark").  As an example, for some reason most of my home town is overlaid with various flavors of grey and white "contour lines" for lack of a better word, except they're a solid fill.  Roads on this background are white....

 

I believe this option is under Nav -> Nav Menu -> Go > to Settings -> Navigation Map -> Map Display -> Color Mode (page 51 of the manual).

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 22:26 UTC#56

Terrible stuff:  

 

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You cannot set the zoom level on the map.  It defaults back to whatever zoom it had when hard power was last applied to the head unit (don't ask how I figure that out).  I've spent a few hours trying to get the map to hold a given zoom setting, simply can't find a way to do this.  Nav overall is bad on this unit, nothing at all like the current Garmin and Tomtoms, of which I own several.

 

 

Isn't this the setting zoom you might have been looking for:

Nav -> Nav Menu -> Go > to Settings -> Navigation Map -> Map Display -> Viewpoint -> And you get Close, Normal and Far as your 3 options. Granted it's not as many as others have, but it's more than reset. Mine stays on Close no matter my driving, sitting still or turning on/off the car, etc...

 

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Dimmer mode is confusing as hell.....Also, the dimmer only adjusts the screen, not the LED lights on the buttons.  You can dim these separately, but then they stay dim in bright light.  These lights should also switch with day/night mode.

 

 

How do you dim the buttons? I'm ok with them being dim during daytime as i can see the buttons fine, but at night they are so much brighter than the rest of my console lights.

 

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Parking brake override DOES NOT WORK.  Unlike the 4000NEX (without Nav), my unit figured out after about 5 miles that it was moving, even with a relay-installed parking brake bypass.  After this point, it simply wouldn't allow many functions to be accessed unless the speed was below some low point (around 5mph or so).

 

 

I believe this is fixed with the quadrant trick pinned in the forum.

 

I'm pretty impressed with this unit over my AVIC-Z150BH. I have the 8000. The capacitive touchscreen is super responsive, super bright, i can see just fine in bright sun, granted i have an SUV and not a convertible. Got my dimmer at +36. I love the fact i can turn the clock off if i want. I hated the clock on the z150. This has a much nicer clock, but you can turn it off (well except for the Nav screen, where i don't believe you can turn it off). The capacitive display does have issues (like many others that are glass) with finger prints. They are quite visible during the daytime. But man this screen and system are fast!

 

The only other thing that the z150 supposedly supported and i assumed this one did too, but neither seem to, is custom EQ per input. The z150 manu stated that it could associate a different EQ setting per input (siriusxm, hdradio, iPod, etc...) which is useful to me as i have an iPhone and iPod connected and i use my iPhone for music and i use my iPod for Audible. So i can easily switch between them w/o having to mess with my phone. I wish i could store a different EQ setting for iPod2 so i could have my voice EQ for books and a separate EQ for music w/o having to manually change the EQ each time i switch. 

 

And for the LOVE OF GOD, why cannot they have the speed sensing volume adjust. I mean my crappy kia OEM unit had that. It has the speed sensor wired for better GPS, it knows EXACTLY how fast i'm going cause it complains that i'm going over the speed limit (turned the voice part off but left the visual notification). One simple feature that was amazing!

 

Also it acts like i can have more than one bluetooth device connected, but it doesn't let me add another. Weird. 

Posted Apr 04, 2014 · 05:25 UTC#57

 

 

And for the LOVE OF GOD, why cannot they have the speed sensing volume adjust. I mean my crappy kia OEM unit had that. It has the speed sensor wired for better GPS, it knows EXACTLY how fast i'm going cause it complains that i'm going over the speed limit (turned the voice part off but left the visual notification). One simple feature that was amazing!

 

Ok. Apparently this is ASL. I didn't remember seeing this in the z150. But the 8000nex has ASL. If only i could understand what the heck it means by my options Low-mid-high. I assume high does more adjustment, while low does less of an adjustment. Not sure, but i hope so. Gonna set mine to Medium and adjust from there. 

Posted Apr 04, 2014 · 05:33 UTC#58

I tried the axxess ASWC-1 on my chrysler and it seems to be recognizing it. It lowers the volume and and thats it. no steady lights. keeps flashing. I keep resetting it. Maybe AXXESS needs a firmware update

Posted Apr 04, 2014 · 23:51 UTC#59

Ok all of you guys with the new units lets start seeing some Youtube vids of them in action.

Posted Apr 05, 2014 · 05:16 UTC#60

Got the unit in!  Did the bypass mentioned in this thread, seems to have worked, drove for 11 minutes and DVD keep playing, even when the unit told me I was exceeding the speed limit, scared me at first, pretty neat.  Still have to ground the backup camera to finish that install.  Hard top convertible has no place to ground, even the lights are not just hot and ground (Mercedes can bus system).

 

ASWC-1 is working for volume up and down but the phone call and hang up buttons ended up CALL - changes mode on the unit, and Hang Up goes to Mute.  Actually like this better than just call and hang up so I am very pleased with the ASWC-1.  Was automatic to program - did it all itself. The 3.5 mm plug for (per the manual) a hard wired remote worked perfectly.

 

Anyone know how to post pictures.  Will shoot a few and upload if I figure that out in a couple of days.

Will be testing and see if others problems are present in my unit (zoom - map colors - siri) and try out some of the other apps.

Bluetooth working good for phone for both calls and music.  Even gets my calendar - photos - and phonebook from the phone.  Really cool.

 

Thanks to all who assisted with reply's to my questions and all for contributing.  Learning as I go.

 

Does look very cool in the old SLK.

Posted Apr 05, 2014 · 05:55 UTC#61

You can turn the speed limit warnings off in the settings, its annoying as crap and way too much big brother for me.

Posted Apr 05, 2014 · 16:59 UTC#62

is there a way to set the speed warning where it alerts you when you are 10 miles over the limit, as opposed to JUST OVER the limit? 

Posted Apr 05, 2014 · 20:25 UTC#63

is there a way to set the speed warning where it alerts you when you are 10 miles over the limit, as opposed to JUST OVER the limit? 

Not that I saw in the settings, that would be nice though...

Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 18:42 UTC#64

You can adjust the speed warning alerts. 

 

You adjust it by percentage.  By default it is set to 100% (60 mph = 60 mph), to set it for say 66 mph you increase the slider to 110%.  The setting is accessed from the Nav screen by pressing on the three horizontal lines at the right of the screen - submenu is Warnings if memory serves me.  There is a setting for City and one for Highway.

 

Worked for me

 

7000Nex installed, All working including the parking brake bypass (no wires involved - other than grounding the parking brake wire). CD/DVD, SD card, 30 pin iPod, iPhone 4s Bluetooth and audio, Siri, backup camera, and ASWC-1 steering wheel adapter.

 

Only disappointment so far is that I cannot leave the iPod connected and have iPhone Bluetooth music, one or the other, so I disconnect the iPod for now until I figure out if that is by design.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 03:06 UTC#65

That slider bar worked for me! Thank you!

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 10:37 UTC#66

You can adjust the speed warning alerts. 

 

You adjust it by percentage.  By default it is set to 100% (60 mph = 60 mph), to set it for say 66 mph you increase the slider to 110%.  The setting is accessed from the Nav screen by pressing on the three horizontal lines at the right of the screen - submenu is Warnings if memory serves me.  There is a setting for City and one for Highway.

 

Worked for me

 

7000Nex installed, All working including the parking brake bypass (no wires involved - other than grounding the parking brake wire). CD/DVD, SD card, 30 pin iPod, iPhone 4s Bluetooth and audio, Siri, backup camera, and ASWC-1 steering wheel adapter.

 

Only disappointment so far is that I cannot leave the iPod connected and have iPhone Bluetooth music, one or the other, so I disconnect the iPod for now until I figure out if that is by design.

Awesome find on the slider, I must have missed that.  As far as the iPod, this seems to be the disappointing normal workings of the unit.  If the smart phone setup is on anything other than iPhone & usb then neither usb port to work with an iPod...

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 14:42 UTC#67

Awesome find on the slider, I must have missed that.  As far as the iPod, this seems to be the disappointing normal workings of the unit.  If the smart phone setup is on anything other than iPhone & usb then neither usb port to work with an iPod...

 

I was about to let people know about the slider. That's just another neat feature i've found in this GPS unit. I have to say i'm thoroughly impressed with the 8000nex unit over the z150BH by a very large margin. I keep finding all these little details in the GPS system that make it so much better than most others i've had. And i had a recent top of the line Garmin. There were a few things in the Garmin that i miss in the 8000nex unit, but the list is getting shorter by the day that i use it as i find features in the 8000nex that can do the same job, or make the previous feature in the Garmin moot. 

 

I just did a 8 hour round trip to Atlanta all in one day yesterday and used the GPS and i was blown away at just how good it was once i got everything tweaked. Setting the speed slighter was a find on the way back. I set mine for 115%. So at 70mph i can do 80mph before it alerts me (and i only use the visual alerts, turned the audio ones off). When i'm doing 40mph it lets me know at 46mph which in and around towns i'm fine with. It's not perfect, i would like to have an option % or exactly 10mph over, but i can live with one, as it's better than none. 

 

As to the iPod thing, i have 2 iPod touches in mine. 1 for my music (the larger one) and one for Audible (a smaller one). I wanted to be able to easily switch in the head unit between the Audible app and the Music app without having to pull my iPod out ever little while or mess with my phone. So i bought another iPod. I installed them both in ipod1 and ipod2 ran extension cables to the middle console and installed the extension USB female unit there. Then got a couple of expandable lightning cables and mounted my iPods there.

 

(note i use the Audible app instead of just using the Music app to select my audiobook as i like to use whispersync and sync my audiobook and kindle ebook when i read - i realize i could do the same thing and just use the music app to play my audiobook and it would work well and i could control it from the head unit but i need it for other reasons that some readers might or might not have)

 

Because of my dual iPod setup i was pissed to see that if i set my smartphone as BT none of the iPods would work. That's really freaking retarded. But anyway. I kinda go around it. I set my smart phone as iPod. But plugged in my 2 iPod touches as iPod 1 and 2. Both work great. I can easily and quickly switch between Music and Audible from the head unit. And my Siri (using the middle button in the 8000nex) still uses my iPhone which i paired using BT, still receives incoming calls, still makes calls from. I can send emails and texts from my phone using the built in microphone and Siri part of the 8000nex (as i did so several times on my trip) and have 2 iPods connected. Now, once they add this AVICSYNC stuff with internet for traffic/weather/etc... i'm not sure how that will work. I might not be able to do that with 2 iPods connected. I may have to live without that or come up with another alternative. But for now it does everything i want it to. 

 

I have really really been enjoying my 8000nex by a huge margin over my old z150bh. Some people complained that the GPS was basically "useless" and i find it to be completely untrue. I've used it around town several times, and on a relatively long trip and i have to say it's pretty awesome. There are some features i'd love to see:

 

-Pause instead of Mute on GPS voice over directions (for my books, don't care about music, but i'd like my books paused while it wants to tell me to turn ahead)

-Waypoints are a little odd. You get the "most popular" groups to show up, but to filter through all the other ones (like shopping for example) you have to click in the search dialog box, then they keyboard shows up and either search by word, or dismiss the keyboard and then behind the keyboard overlay are all the categories. If you could ADD to the most popular catalogs that show up, that would be nice, or if they just all showed up, but it seems a little bit irksome the way it is.

-Waypoints, when you are in navigation mode (and have a route programmed) the default option for finding a local place (restaurant, shopping, etc..) is Nearby Places, and it should be Along Route. If you don't have a route programmed then Nearby Places is fine. This was kind of a pain as on my trip i needed to pickup a pair of shoes, and i didn't see this Nearby Places and it added 30 minutes to my trip as it wanted to take me 12 miles BACK the way i was coming to a shoe store i pass 12 miles ago, then 12 more miles back to where i was so about 30 minutes a waste of my time. After realizing this i killed the waypoint (which it audibly calls "via point" for some strange reason) and redid the "shoes" entry and clicked on the Nearby Places and chose "Along Route", that found a shoe store like 2 minutes off my route, but it was like 30 minutes from where i was at, which was perfect, i had to wait a little bit longer, but it didn't take me out of the way. (not too many shoe outlet places along interstate without hitting up a wally world or something). 

-The quick nearby place needs to allow you to see more than just one. The little icon when navigating that is next to the progress bar on the right hand side that looks like a car and 2 roads i think, when you click that you have the choice of gas, food and gas&food. That's an awesome feature that my garmin didn't have, just find me the closest food place or the nearest gas station. That's an awesome feature, but at the same time if you don't like the "Subway" it found 1 exit down and there are other choices on that exit, it doesn't show you. It would be nice if it listed all the restaurants within 1 mile of that first one it found and let you pick. So a nice option that could be even better. 

-End of navigation popup. Once you reach your destination a popup should come up that quickly lets you cancel the route. You are there or you passed it (because it stopped you 100ft before the house number or something) it should just popup and say Cancel Route? Yes/No. instead of my having to click Option -> Cancel Route -> Delete Route. 3 buttons when it could be solved by a popup and 1 button. 

 

Another freaking awesome thing that i discovered. I set a feature in the Nav options called Show Realtime Alternative Routes or some such. Then about 2 hours into my drive i decided i needed to hit McDonalds. I pulled off interstate and instead of saying Recalculating Route, it popped up a menu of places nearby (several gas stations and several fast food places) with a title called something like "Off Route Reason" or some such. I then clicked the McDonalds selection and it automatically added that as a waypoint and drove me there without bitching at me the entire time that i was off route, and annoying me with recalculating every fifteen seconds. 

 

So like i said there are a few options that i'd like on this until to make it the perfect GPS, while technically it's right now the best one i've used and i've used Garmins (top of the line units) and TomToms (middle units) and the z150BH GPS thing. 

 

Also i used the bypass mentioned at the front of this forum to bypass the parking break issue. I did all my GPS navigation and selections while driving down the highway by myself. And it worked perfectly. It did tell me 2 times this weekend (one on the trip and one the day before) that it detected an issue with my parking break, but i click OK and was still allowed to do anything i wanted without stopping, slowing down or administering the parking break. 

Edited Apr 07, 2014 by indiix2
Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 15:50 UTC#68

Great write up! Thanks for all the good tips.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 17:06 UTC#69

The main thing I do not like about the gps is that it does not tell you verbally what street to turn on, it instead tells you in so many feet to turn, Yes it does show you on the screen but it would be much better to tell you verbally imho.  I went for a nice ride over the weekend and it performed very well.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 17:37 UTC#70

You can adjust the speed warning alerts. 

 

You adjust it by percentage.  By default it is set to 100% (60 mph = 60 mph), to set it for say 66 mph you increase the slider to 110%.  The setting is accessed from the Nav screen by pressing on the three horizontal lines at the right of the screen - submenu is Warnings if memory serves me.  There is a setting for City and one for Highway.

 

Worked for me

 

7000Nex installed, All working including the parking brake bypass (no wires involved - other than grounding the parking brake wire). CD/DVD, SD card, 30 pin iPod, iPhone 4s Bluetooth and audio, Siri, backup camera, and ASWC-1 steering wheel adapter.

 

Only disappointment so far is that I cannot leave the iPod connected and have iPhone Bluetooth music, one or the other, so I disconnect the iPod for now until I figure out if that is by design.

The need to disconnect from App mode to use bluetooth was also in the previous generation.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 17:52 UTC#71

The main thing I do not like about the gps is that it does not tell you verbally what street to turn on, it instead tells you in so many feet to turn, Yes it does show you on the screen but it would be much better to tell you verbally imho.  I went for a nice ride over the weekend and it performed very well.

 

The default voice doesn't announce street names.  You need to select the "TTS" voice for text-to-speech street names.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 19:07 UTC#72

The main thing I do not like about the gps is that it does not tell you verbally what street to turn on, it instead tells you in so many feet to turn, Yes it does show you on the screen but it would be much better to tell you verbally imho.  I went for a nice ride over the weekend and it performed very well.

Have you tried using the TTS voice instead of the Amy voice in english? The TTS voice announces street names and the Amy one does not. It says it in the description under the names. Try changing the voices and see if that gets you what you want. 

Edited Apr 07, 2014 by indiix2
Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 23:01 UTC#73

Have you tried using the TTS voice instead of the Amy voice in english? The TTS voice announces street names and the Amy one does not. It says it in the description under the names. Try changing the voices and see if that gets you what you want. 

Wow that would be great, I never would have imagined to look at a setting like that, I will give it a try tomorrow, thanks much!!!

Posted Apr 10, 2014 · 21:56 UTC#74

Hi guys, first post here.  Did a search and didn't find any answers.  Question has to do with map zoom while moving.  Has anyone figured this out?  Sometimes I want to avoid traffic and just want to confirm that a side street will take me where I want to go.  It would be great to be able to zoom out and hold at a specific distance.  

 

Learning a lot from you guys.  Thanks! 

Posted Apr 10, 2014 · 22:12 UTC#75

Also since we are talking about the speed warning alerts. Is there a setting to tailor the  unit to match your actual speed. Mine always shows me at 3-4mph over my actual speed. It's quite annoying.

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