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By tekki · Apr 10, 2014in NEX Series💬 26 posts👁️ 4,640 views
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Posted Apr 10, 2014 · 21:47 UTC#1

Ok this is where a lot of us are disappointed and confused so I'll try to some it up easily.

There are 2 USB ports on the rear of the nex 8000, that's great, the downfall starts here.

 

In the settings under smartphone set up you must choose one of the following CONNECTION types

 

Digital a/v adapter

Bluetooth

USB

 

If you choose digital adapter the following scenarios happen.

App mode works fine

Using the car audio app will see the music on your phone.

Pandora and aha work fine

The bad

Bluetooth music will not work

The unit will not work for a 2nd iPod connected to the 2nd port it gets disconnected

You must use HDMI selection to play music from your phone,

clicking usb1 will tell you incompatible device

 

Choosing Bluetooth

Streaming pandora works fine as well as aha or any other music from your phone.

App mode does not work

USB 2 does not recognize iPod 2

USB is not seen either

 

Choosing USB

Allows both USB ports to be utilized for iPods

You must disconnect your apple digital av adapter and connect your phone directly USB in order to use pandora

App mode does not work

 

Here's the kicker, no matter which setting you chose, your phone will still be able to utilize Bluetooth to send and receive calls.

 

What they need to do is write drivers, and have connection settings for each USB port because whatever selection you choose effects both ports.

 

My setup

Nex8000

iPhone 5s

Pny 32gig sdcard filled with music

iPod 30'gig classic

 

I hope this helps some of you, I love the unit even with the downfalls that I think firmware upgrade could fix.

Edited Apr 11, 2014 by tekki
Posted Apr 10, 2014 · 23:52 UTC#2

Thank you for the info, It has helped answer some of my own curiosities. Though I have the 6000nex it sounds about right. I have a 2005 Chevy Tahoe Z-71. INstalled by a dealer. Still getting usd to it but it's still a major upgrade to what was factory. Hopefully it is just in need of a firmware update fix.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 01:53 UTC#3

Ok this is where a lot of us are disappointed and confused so I'll try to some it up easily.

There are 2 USB ports on the rear of the nex 8000, that's great, the downfall starts here.

 

In the settings under smartphone set up you must choose one of the following CONNECTION types

 

Digital a/v adapter

Bluetooth

USB

 

If you choose digital adapter the following scenarios happen.

App mode works fine

Using the car audio app will see the music on your phone.

Pandora and aha work fine

The bad

Bluetooth music will not work

The unit will not work for a 2nd iPod connected to the 2nd port it gets disconnected

You must use HDMI selection to play music from your phone,

clicking usb1 will tell you incompatible device

 

Choosing Bluetooth

Streaming pandora works fine as well as aha or any other music from your phone.

App mode does not work

USB 2 does not recognize iPod 2

USB is not seen either

 

Choosing USB

Allows both USB ports to be utilized for iPods

You must disconnect USB 1 and 2 to be able to play Bluetooth music or pandora

App mode does not work

 

Here's the kicker, no matter which setting you chose, your phone will still be able to utilize Bluetooth to send and receive calls.

 

What they need to do is write drivers, and have connection settings for each USB port because whatever selection you choose effects both ports.

 

My setup

Nex8000

iPhone 5s

Pny 32gig sdcard filled with music

iPod 30'gig classic

 

I hope this helps some of you, I love the unit even with the downfalls that I think firmware upgrade could fix.

 

Sounds about right....

 

Your statement "You must disconnect USB 1 and 2 to be able to play Bluetooth music or pandora" is not correct. I have a 32GB USB drive dedicated with movies and some music and I can play bluetooth music fine via Pandora.

Edited Apr 11, 2014 by Kstryker
Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 11:17 UTC#4

In USB mode, it tells me to disconnect cables when I try to play pandora, I just tried it again, I have an iPod connected to USB 2, I'll have to try it wit a thumb drive to see if mine will do the same as yours.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 13:42 UTC#5

In USB mode, i definitely cannot keep iPod 2 connected when I try to play pandora, I however can play music stored on my phone.

I get the message to disconnect the cables. Once I disconnect iPod 2 It allows me to stream pandora just fine.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 14:07 UTC#6

Thank you for posting this.  I can confirm that I have found similar results with an Android phone and an iPod Classic 160 gb plugged into either USB1 or USB2.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 14:47 UTC#7

I may need some clarification if I am not reading this correctly.  If I pair my phone, and only want to use BT on my iPhone for phone calls, I will not be able to use my iPod that is connected to a USB?  If that is the case, that has to be the dumbest setup, and non forward thinking by Pioneer engineers.  However, if BT for phone calls only does not hinder the use of a connected iPod, then not having Pandora streaming does not bother me, as majority of the time I only play music from my iPod.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 15:04 UTC#8

I may need some clarification if I am not reading this correctly.  If I pair my phone, and only want to use BT on my iPhone for phone calls, I will not be able to use my iPod that is connected to a USB?  If that is the case, that has to be the dumbest setup, and non forward thinking by Pioneer engineers.  However, if BT for phone calls only does not hinder the use of a connected iPod, then not having Pandora streaming does not bother me, as majority of the time I only play music from my iPod.

 

If you chose USB mode,

You can have usb2 working with an iPod as well as send and receive calls through Bluetooth with your phone it will work that way.

 

In my tests you can not play Pandora until you disconnect the iPod if you have chosen USB As your connection in the SMARTPHONE setup.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 15:17 UTC#9

Sounds about right....

 

Your statement "You must disconnect USB 1 and 2 to be able to play Bluetooth music or pandora" is not correct. I have a 32GB USB drive dedicated with movies and some music and I can play bluetooth music fine via Pandora.

I don't have anything in USB 2. I have a USB connected to USB1 that contains movies/music/pictures and I can play through BT without having to disconnect. This may be the case if you're utilizing USB2.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 15:28 UTC#10

Ok so I tried something different,

If you have your iPhone connected to USB 1 through the apple hdmi/lightning adapter and an iPod on USB 2 with USB selected as your connection type you can not play pandora

 

I connected my phone USB 1 with just the lightning connector and iPod to USB2 and all is well I can play pandora and keep the iPod connected as well.

 

Goodbye to the lightning hdmi adapter it's just a headache. I guess I'll only use it when I need it for other features.

I edited the original post

Very sorry for the confusion

Edited Apr 11, 2014 by tekki
Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 15:59 UTC#11

Ok so I tried something different,

If you have your iPhone connected to USB 1 through the apple hdmi/lightning adapter and an iPod on USB 2 with USB selected as your connection type you can not play pandora

 

I connected my phone USB 1 with just the lightning connector and iPod to USB2 and all is well I can play pandora and keep the iPod connected as well.

 

Goodbye to the lightning hdmi adapter it's just a headache. I guess I'll only use it when I need it for other features.

I edited the original post

Very sorry for the confusion

No reason to be sorry...still some bugs needed to be worked out.

Posted Apr 11, 2014 · 17:20 UTC#12

If you chose USB mode,

You can have usb2 working with an iPod as well as send and receive calls through Bluetooth with your phone it will work that way.

 

In my tests you can not play Pandora until you disconnect the iPod if you have chosen USB As your connection in the SMARTPHONE setup.

Thanks for the answer, as that would have been my only deal breaker.

Posted May 02, 2014 · 17:03 UTC#13

This topic should be pinned. Great info. I hope these will be less ridiculous on future updates. 

Posted May 03, 2014 · 15:59 UTC#14

I'm using an android phone and this is how I set it up. Hdmi cable and USB cable connected to USB port 2. Ran both of those to a samsung mhl adapter. Connect the phone to the radio via Bluetooth, launch pioneer app radio on phone next, then plug mhl adapter into phone. Access to aha,pandora, and other apps accessible. I lose by audio streaming for music files, but the app icon allows me to access them anyway. Making and receiving calls not a problem.

Posted May 04, 2014 · 18:04 UTC#15

Hi All,

 

Quick query regarding aha radio.

 

I haven't got my unit (15th of May is the install date!) but was wondering if you need the hdmi and digital av adapter for aha radio to work, or whether it just works through standard USB lightning cable?

 

I've got an iphone 5s and am getting the 8000nex ( or rather the F60DAB as it's known in Europe).

 

Cheers

 

Mark

Posted May 04, 2014 · 18:12 UTC#16

Hi All,

 

Quick query regarding aha radio.

 

I haven't got my unit (15th of May is the install date!) but was wondering if you need the hdmi and digital av adapter for aha radio to work, or whether it just works through standard USB lightning cable?

 

I've got an iphone 5s and am getting the 8000nex ( or rather the F60DAB as it's known in Europe).

 

Cheers

 

Mark

You only need the lightning cable for pandora and aha radio

Posted May 04, 2014 · 18:15 UTC#17

and it only works when plugged into usb1 or at least for me anyway...lol

Posted May 04, 2014 · 21:36 UTC#18

and it only works when plugged into usb1 or at least for me anyway...lol

Ok great! Thanks for the info.

Posted May 05, 2014 · 00:13 UTC#19

Yes it's works either way, Bluetooth or lightning cable. Not sure of the hdmi adapter

Posted May 05, 2014 · 03:57 UTC#20

I have been playing around with settings and hook ups on my 4000nex, i believe it works the same as your aviv head units. I have iPhone 5s hooked up via apple av adapter. Now using the av adapter, hdmi goes to head unit, lightning to usb cable goes to usb1. Now you have to understand usb1 in this setup only is used to charge the phone, not read anything from the phone, hence the error message not a compatible device or something in that order. So I disconnected the lightning to usb cable from usb1 and hooked up straight to car charger not to head unit. then checked to see if all worked, app radio connected, bluetooth calls worked, etc. so i plugged in 16 gig thumbnail drive in usb1, 80gb intel ssd into usb2, 32 gb sd card in sd slot, Everything works, app mode uses bluetooth and hdmi, so when using app radio, and a call comes in, app radio is disconnected and call is answered, app radio has to be restarted. I read that the head units support up to 32 gb sd card, and you can use hard drive from computer as long as it does not need to much juice to run it. Now the 2.5 solid state drives, do not have the same draw as a rotating disc hard drive, so you can get ssd to usb adapter and it works great. I do not know the limit on size of hard drive, but my 80 gb works flawlessly. I have music, ripped dvds, and pics available. I have 2007 Chevrolet 2500hd crew cab, and installed everything myself, head unit, steering wheel controls, chime mechanism and parking brake bypass, 11" headrest screens, all new speakers in 4 doors and added sub and amp. Everything works flawlessly. I also installed the wifi elm327 code reader for app radio Dash Command, so i have access to all my engine functions showing up on my head unit, while my 2 and 3 year old girls watch their favorite movie in the back seat. I know the new firmware due in the next month or so from pioneer will enable apple play, which will be another awesome option. Ya gotta love technology. And I am 60 years old. Go Figure.

Edited May 05, 2014 by joemamma1954
Posted May 15, 2014 · 21:26 UTC#21

Got my F60DAB (8000NEX) installed today.

 

Love it.

 

One issue though which I am assuming is either a dodgy extension lead (or the connection had fallen out the back), but USB 1 does not seem to work at all. It doesn't charge either my iphone 5s or my old 3GS (using as an iPod) and doesn't show any connection on the unit it at all. Both phones work fine through USB2 (but I can't get aha to work through USB 2). Initially the guy who installed it said USB1 was just for android but after re-reading these posts I think that sounds like nonsense and now I have played round with it I think that there must be a connection issue.

 

My question is - is there any other reason why USB 1 wouldn't be working at all? I have an hdmi cable installed as well but I'm not connecting it to anything just yet - that shouldn't affect USB1 should it?

 

Thoughts gratefully received!

 

Cheers

 

Mark

Posted May 15, 2014 · 22:29 UTC#22

Got my F60DAB (8000NEX) installed today.

 

Love it.

 

One issue though which I am assuming is either a dodgy extension lead (or the connection had fallen out the back), but USB 1 does not seem to work at all. It doesn't charge either my iphone 5s or my old 3GS (using as an iPod) and doesn't show any connection on the unit it at all. Both phones work fine through USB2 (but I can't get aha to work through USB 2). Initially the guy who installed it said USB1 was just for android but after re-reading these posts I think that sounds like nonsense and now I have played round with it I think that there must be a connection issue.

 

My question is - is there any other reason why USB 1 wouldn't be working at all? I have an hdmi cable installed as well but I'm not connecting it to anything just yet - that shouldn't affect USB1 should it?

 

Thoughts gratefully received!

 

Cheers

 

Mark

 

Sounds to me like a bad cable or a bad connection.

Posted May 16, 2014 · 00:13 UTC#23

use an original apple charge cable. if your using a a cheap cable its not going to recognize. USB1 is used for iphones and ipods and usb2 for android devices

Posted May 16, 2014 · 05:24 UTC#24

use an original apple charge cable. if your using a a cheap cable its not going to recognize. USB1 is used for iphones and ipods and usb2 for android devices

Thanks Mikemaan and Drenyce

 

Yes, absolutely using apple cables that plug into the extension cables that are supplied with the unit.

 

When you say USB 2 is for android devices, assume you mean to get the aha service etc. I should still be able to plug an iPod in (as I am) and play music through it.

 

I had aimed to have my 5s plugged into USB1 where I could make use of aha the my old iPhone 3GS into USB 2 to use as an iPod. That setup isn't unreasonable is it?

 

Thanks again.

Posted May 16, 2014 · 10:22 UTC#25

no you can plug an ipod on usb2. But if you want to use Appradio you need to plug the iphone on usb1. Aha and pandora work via lightning cable

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