You mean with the same update file that I have copied on the SD card? I have seen on their site now, that they have released a newer version 1.1.4, so if I download it and copy it on a SD card, first I should update from the main menu and then on the bluetooth menu, always with the same update file?
Thank you for giving me this information that I could not get anywhere else!
yes
Hi all, I have come across this thread a few times recently and now realise this is a forum I need to be in, so this is virgin post 
Having always love Alpine stuff, I need a new double din for my Audi A6 Allroad 2005, and I just can't afford the Alpines (with features I want) so I am going for Pioneer instead. I am looking at buying a used Avic-F60DAB which I THINK I am right in saying is the same as the US model 8200NEX (??). I have also been offered a used F77DAB and an ex display 'new' F88DAB. Struggling to decide at the moment.I am not into carplay even though I have an iPhone, so I definitely won't be using that. I do however want HDMI for mirroring the phone, and built in quality navigation is important. I also want to bypass the safety video thing, as I do lot of shooting for farmers and often sit half the night in fields bumbling around looking for foxes. So having video and more importantly, YouTube mirrored off my iPhone ideally, that would help me while away the hours sat drinking coffee and snooping around at crawling speeds! I think it's just a case of grounding the cable but not 100% sure.
Anyway, the reason I am interesting in the firmware upgrade is because the F60DAB I have been offered is a good few years old now (hardly used in that time by all accounts) but the owner doesn't know much about it and certainly won't have updated anything on it. I will want to get it right up to date, as much as possible anyway, with new maps, and any firmware upgrades.
Am I right in thinking I can upgrade the firmware, and can I ask what benefits there are in doing this? Does it get rid of that annoying safety confirmation every time you open the sat nav (which I have read about when researching the F60)
thanks for any help, I want to get it as updated as poss
Hi. The F60DAB (european) is labeled as NEX8000 in the US. Latest firmware is 1.15 released last month. To update the maps you can buy/update the maps with naviextras (not cheap), or you can patch/hack the IGO software to install downloaded packages from online sites/forums. Patch/hack/testmode is confirmed working up to fw 1.14 (1.15 you need new testkeys so not 100% confirmed working yet) Then you can install/transfer maps and remove the safety warning with some scripts you can get in this forum. Regarding the handbrake, its a grounding thing as you say
Thankfully I found this thread again in my frantic Googling about the F60DAB because forum topic notifications haven't arrived and are nowhere to be seen (not in spam etc)
Wow, Thanks so much SpecTrax - for responding so quickly and with such useful information.
I was on Crutchfield reading the reviews on the 8000NEX and they are amazing..... UNTIL you go to page 2 (earlier) and then there are quite a few people complaining about bugginess, freezing GPS position or not finding it, crashing and all sorts. That got me worried for a minute, but they are still in the minority. I am buying the unit used from a decent guy who has hardly used it, so I assume it will come stock as it came to him new in March 2014. That concerns me slightly as I will need to update the maps. How much as we talking roughly to do it the normal way?
My wife has an Android chinese special in her transit and i set it up with iGo (maps found online) so I am probably up to the task if I learn a bit, but I really do not want to brick my Pioneer as I am spending a lot of money on this.
Also I read a lot of reviews (US) saying "Pioneer don't do firmware upgrades, they just release a new model" and things like that from angry people. From your post that sounds like BS which is music to my ears, pardon the pun!
Thanks again.
In case anyone cares to share their views and help guide me, my current choice is as follows and I am fairly stuck with what to do (being short of cash doesn't help so all of them are a stretch really)
F60DAB - 3 years old mint condition £430
PS, just as an example, from Amazon
"Beware!!!! Like other reviewers said, Pioneer never updates firmware to resolve problems. Their solution is to generate new models. I spent $1000 for this and.... it will NOT work with Android even with the $60 kit for the adapters. The GPS does suck. You cannot speak into the unit what or where you are looking for. You have to type it in and it is set up backwards, State, city, street name, address #. Oh and if you type at normal speed, entries don't show up because the unit tries to autofill and guess what you are entering but the software is SLOW. You must type in one digit every 3 or 4 seconds or it doesn't register on the screen. Crap! If you have something plugged into one of the usb ports, Bluetooth audio will not work. The unit has no OFF position so it turns on every time you start your vehicle. Its a fingerprint magnet. Just so angry that Pioneer has not offered a firmware update to resolve issues in 6 months. It will randomly pop up an error message for the parking brake even though it is properly connected. It will ask if you want to search for a Bluetooth device AFTER my phone is already connected. So many issues... what a shame. Lesson learned. Flagship my a$$... failure"
Assuming that's not a Kenwood sales rep on his lunch break!! .... I am sure much of this can't be true. Surely I can have an iPod permanently connected in glovebox (thats my plan) and still connect my phone with bluetooth?! Sounds like one of those idiots possibly making stuff up because there is something he really hates and regrets his purchase,?
i can only speak for the F60DAB....
Amazon reviews are ups and downs...lot of crazy people who complain since they dont know how the unit works. No trouble with GPs. Type in things manually....no problem. USB works. Android an mirroring works....use the usbcable. There is no OFF button on the unit, but you can turn it off in the options (turns on but silence). Handbrake error = wrong wireing from the user. No bluetooth problems...etc. Latest firmware versions solves alot of errors and faults.
On the latter updates its more bugfixes then new addons...but thats okay
Regarding the maps there is usually 1 free upgrade after activating the unit for the first time. Code if im correct, But this might be overdue for you i think. But you can always try
check here for more info:
Since this forum is sometimes slow on replies and such you can always check out :
signup here: http://avicsignup.herokuapp.com
Most of the "gurus" hang out there and i randomly pop-in for some help and answers
"I think I am right in saying the F60 can do tilt screen (handy for me as its very low in car), has capacitive touch screen which I would really like. - YES, some. cant remember if it both ways
We all know Pioneer want to sell new units, but who doesnt? But there have been fw releases
Ver 1.15 (July, 2017 Update) Reduce noise when playback iPod Add QWERTY keyboard in AppRadio Mode *UC model only Fix the malfunction at "Artist Alert" event *UC model only
Ver 1.14 (January, 2017 Update) Improve the virtual keyboard problem on iOS 9.x. Fix the incorrect indication of names on the screen at Bluetooth Handsfree mode in Thai. Fix the music display problem on iOS 8 and later. Minor bug fixes
Ver 1.11 (23 November, 2015 Update) Support for AVICSYNC REMARK: If you don’t intend to use the AVICSYNC features then it is not necessary to install this update.
Ver 1.07 (15 October, 2014 Update) Minor bug fixes.
Ver 1.06 (2 October, 2014 Update) Apple CarPlayâ„¢ support for iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, and iPhone 5 iTunes® Radio support for iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, and iPhone 5 Support for MPEG-2 playback (support for *.vob files on USB and SD source) Improved Rear view camera support Minor bug fixes.
Ver 1.04 (9 September, 2014 Update) This firmware will allow the users to purchase Speed Camera data and Optional TMC services from pioneer.naviextras.com
Ver 1.04 (12 August, 2014 Update) This firmware is required to use pioneer.naviextras.com 2nd Camera Switching via 'Map' button Minor bug fixes.
Excellent thanks so much for your time posting some answers. The lack of removable face is a bit of a concern, but I don't think the F77 or F88 have that either so never mind that issue as I want one of those three no matter what.
Yes the free map upgrade will be long gone I am sure, but I assume I can still update the maps even if paying silly money to Pioneer?
Type in things manually - that's the only way I ever want to do it anyway!!
Handbrake error - I am planning on grounding that lead anyway as I want to use it on the move (I do a lot of shooting, crawling around fields for hours at night, want Youtube to pass the time!)
Turning Off - That is ONE thing which does bother me a bit. Can you not have the screen blank if you want it off? That's a real shame and silly why they don't provide a way to turn it off! Not sure if F77 or F88 have that either. I am sure I read somewhere online that the F60 had a firmware update which fixed two things:
1. satnav annoying warning every time you go into mapping
2. no power off (added the option)
From what you say that sounds like it's not true.
Thanks again
PS I just tried that link you sent and can't see a way to register at https://avichacking.slack.com
PS I just tried that link you sent and can't see a way to register at https://avichacking.slack.com
sorry. need a signup first
Thanks. is it a forum?
1. satnav annoying warning every time you go into mapping
2. no power off (added the option)
The warning is on all software/firmware / units. But only when you turn on the unit /start the car first time. untill you shut it down again.
There is an power off option but the unit turns on to an blank default screen with all options off. this is for all latter pioneers i think
Thanks. is it a forum?
more like a live-chat
cool! thanks
The warning is on all software/firmware / units. But only when you turn on the unit /start the car first time. untill you shut it down again.
There is an power off option but the unit turns on to an blank default screen with all options off. this is for all latter pioneers i think
Ah right. Yes what I heard was the older ones used to give that warning every time you went into satnav, not just when first powering on. Thats good news.
Power off - not sure I really understand. Is it an annoying screen with stuff swirling around and distracting?! I had that once with a horrible sony xplod and i ended up ripping it out and stamping on it, what a stupid design!
Ah right. Yes what I heard was the older ones used to give that warning every time you went into satnav, not just when first powering on. Thats good news.
Power off - not sure I really understand. Is it an annoying screen with stuff swirling around and distracting?! I had that once with a horrible sony xplod and i ended up ripping it out and stamping on it, what a stupid design!
No just the default background image with a dropdown button in the top leftcorner. no animations
Ah i see. So instead of my plans to have a tasty tart in a swimming costume (like the wife would allow that 
) I could just have a dark black background image and make it as dull as possible. That should work I think
I am disappointed from Pioneer's behavior and I am considering never to purchase any of their products. Luck of completely "off" mode (turning off entirely, no power consumption or function at all) and obviously there won't come out any serious firmware updates but only new models sometime. Many other annoying functions and lacks as pre-mentioned here. Not to mention that map update is overpriced for a buggy and freezing hardware!
You don't sound very happy! I wonder if a programmer could hack the latest firmware to make a power off option, unlikely but who knows.
If it bothers you that much (as it may bother me too), I wondered about just fitting a toggle switch on the dashboard, and wiring the switch live to the stereo via that switch. A nice push button or switch would mean an instant power off on the dash. I may do that myself if it bothers me too much. Only a bit of wire and two crimps needed, and the switch.
Does anyone know if this procedure to turn the screen off works on the F60DAB?
Does anyone know if this procedure to turn the screen off works on the F60DAB?
seems to only turn off the screen but is fully operational when it comes to functions. nex8000 and f60dab is the same so this should work.
Cool. You said "should work". have you not tried it on yours then?
Seems to me a perfectly good option, I don't actually need the power to be cut to the unit, but it would be nice to make the screen blank.
Cool. You said "should work". have you not tried it on yours then?
Seems to me a perfectly good option, I don't actually need the power to be cut to the unit, but it would be nice to make the screen blank.
i never turn off mine. but if it works for the nex8000 it will work for the f60dab. its the same unit just diff name
Great thanks Spec
Well i FINALLY have my NEX800/F60DAB. Just trying to fit it, I have £150 worth of custom made cables to make it all work properly with Bose etc. But it isn't 
Currently, I have an error showing when it boots saying "No Speed Pulse" being received by satnav. I was told the harness should definitely take care of that, I didn't even know abut it until they suggested it, they said the satnav will work better with "speed pulse". Does anyone know what they are talking about and if thats true? What does the speed pulse do for the satnav?
Also, bigger problem...... My Audi A6 Allroad had DAB on its factor RNS-E stereo. So I have two antenna connectors in the dash, one is a figure 8 double hole thingie, which my custom harness uses (both ports). But I also have what I am sure is the Audi DAB Antenna connector. That doesn't fit the back of the Pioneer very well, it does push on but doesn't feel very firm. Either way, it doesn[t give ANY DAB deception whatsoever. I tried an aftermarket (Pioneer) glass window DAB antenna and that just about picks up one station, but still not very good. Any ideas appreciated from you experienced folks
Thanks
Well i FINALLY have my NEX800/F60DAB. Just trying to fit it, I have £150 worth of custom made cables to make it all work properly with Bose etc. But it isn't
Currently, I have an error showing when it boots saying "No Speed Pulse" being received by satnav. I was told the harness should definitely take care of that, I didn't even know abut it until they suggested it, they said the satnav will work better with "speed pulse". Does anyone know what they are talking about and if thats true? What does the speed pulse do for the satnav?
Also, bigger problem...... My Audi A6 Allroad had DAB on its factor RNS-E stereo. So I have two antenna connectors in the dash, one is a figure 8 double hole thingie, which my custom harness uses (both ports). But I also have what I am sure is the Audi DAB Antenna connector. That doesn't fit the back of the Pioneer very well, it does push on but doesn't feel very firm. Either way, it doesn[t give ANY DAB deception whatsoever. I tried an aftermarket (Pioneer) glass window DAB antenna and that just about picks up one station, but still not very good. Any ideas appreciated from you experienced folks
Thanks
Audi has internal ANT_AMP, and those two cables are going in two directions (depending on your equipment package)
1. - directly to the roof antenna (shark tail)
2. - directly to ATM (amplifier) and to the roof antenna
you need something like that, a splitter that combines two ant signals into one, without any lose...
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