I have the 8000NEX, and updated to the latest firmware.

I currently have an HDMI cable, and USB1 to a Lightning to USB Cable that I have connected to an Official Apple Lightning AV Adapter with a Lightning Extender Cord.  I finally figure out how switch the Phone Settings on the head unit from AV to USB to enable CarPlay.  I am unable to get CarPlay to work with this setup. 

However, if I remove the official Lightning AV Adapter and plug directly into the USB Lightning cable, the head unit switches automatically into CarPlay mode.  

Is the Apple AV Adapter incompatible with CarPlay?  Or, does the head unit have issues with connecting via CarPlay with an HDMI cable in the mix?

Is there still a way to use CarPlay AND HDMI at the same time (or at least switch between the two)?  Not a fan of having to unplug and replug cables every time.

Thanks

Car play = lightning cable only and usb setting

Appradio mode= av adapter and av setting

Pioneer = foolish

My question is should I update or not? I have Nex-6000.

Update if you want carplay.

I like it so far. But when i need videos i just jump back. It works well enough but the USB call quality is not as good.

So what is USB call quality? Calls aren't handled over USB.

So what is USB call quality? Calls aren't handled over USB.

I agree, if I'm using carplay and I make a phone call, the caller sounds tinny, if I unplug my phone and make a call the caller sounds fine.

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When you are connected through CarPlay, Siri, phone calls, graphic display, and pretty much everything goes over USB. Bluetooth can be totally turned off on the phone, and calls can be placed through the NEX. This is differently implemented vs appradio's multi Bluetooth/hdmi connection.

When in Bluetooth mode you have more options available, such as microphone boost control and  clearer call connection via Bluetooth 4.0's latest Hands Free Profile 1.6 (when paired with an iPhone 5 or above that also has Bluetooth 4.0's HFP 1.6). When in CarPlay mode you lose mic level control and this wide band speech enhancement.

Wide band speech was introduced so that when you are using an HD voice device such as an iPhone 6 on any bluetooth device, you wouldnt lose quality vs just using the phone as a handset.

The shared USB bandwidth that CarPlay is implementing may not allow for as much bandwidth as Bluetooth 4.0 with HFP 1.6 wide band speech does, hence the decreased quality. This is something that could be adjusted down the line if it is deemed necessary, but that would be something that Apple would have to make the call on, not Pioneer.

Though it may not be as clear, not having to run Bluetooth/hdmi like appradio's method, also allows for the phone to actually charge instead of gradually draining on a long trip like AppRadio does. The HDMI lightning adapter+bluetooth added significant power requirements compared to this simplier USB only setup. This overwhelmed the 1.0 Amp output of the USB port on the NEX. Not to mention performance advantages of USB 2.0's bandwidth and latency vs any Bluetooth variant. 

So what is USB call quality? Calls aren't handled over USB.

I actually think they are - if you try and connect to the NEX with carplay on, Bluetooth will not connect. Makes me think calls are over BT. I will confirm in the morning.

All calls are handled over BT.

All calls are handled over BT.

When the iPhone is connected via the lightning cable, there is no Bluetooth connection between the NEX and the iPhone.  Pioneer actually states that the Bluetooth connection will be terminated when the iPhone is connected via the lightning cable in their User Manual Addendum for Apple Carplay (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Car/User%20Manual%20Addendum%20for%20Apple%20CarPlay.pdf).

When I first used CarPlay for a phone call it sounded really low.  I disconnected my iPhone from the lightning cable and then the call sounded better.  You can see the bluetooth icon connect and disconnect depending on if you are connected to the NEX with the lightning cable or not.  The next day the call sounded better.  I'm not sure if it was due to rebooting my iPhone or updating my 5S to iOS 8.02.

All calls are handled over BT.

No, they are not.

In CarPlay mode it is over USB. Bluetooth can be completely disabled on the iPhone and it will still make a call. Its pretty easy to test out, just turn off your bluetooth and see if you can still make a call with only USB. Works perfectly fine on my NEX8000 and iPhone 6+ with bluetooth off.

One of the reasons i do not use CarPlay, BT phone calls are much cleaner. All the waiting, complaining, etc. and i disabled it.

All calls are handled over BT.

You need to edit this post to "No calls are handled over BT."

All calls are handled over BT.

Nope.  I have BlueTooth turned off on my phone, and I can place and receive calls just fine over USB with CarPlay.

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I find Call sound quality to be satisfactory via CarPlay, I've not noticed any issues.

I've not made a final decision on Navigation via Apple Maps. Only complaint is Siri leaves much left to desire, yet handy when I comply with her imperfect search contexts.

Overall, I am underwhelmed by CarPlay, but I did not purchase my 8000 because of it. Still, I find myself using it, so that says something!

I too find the call sound quality to be good for placing most calls, though I do notice the degradation when I am in a HD Voice phone call.

I also find that Siri is not as accurate using CarPlay vs using Siri Eyes Free in Bluetooth. I think this is directly contributed to the quality of the voice signal over USB vs Bluetooth.

Sounds like I'm not the only one here that bought the NEX for Carplay, waited with anticipation for the firmware update, updated, and then disabled Carplay. Ohh well.

The best navigation that I've gotten is Waze through Appradio, but it seems to only work when it wants to work. Seriously it's about 50/50 whether it chooses to connect or not each time. 

If anyone with an iPhone and AVIC-5000NEX is interested, happy to do a test. I call your iPhone through my CarPlay. You call my iPhone through your CarPlay. This has me concerned, call quality is very important. If CarPlay kills call quality, I may need to disconnect when making calls, and reconnect when through. Interested in hearing the quality issue first hand.

I'll tell you this, if you have HD Voice, its crystal clear regardless of which way you connect. If you are not familiar with HD Voice, try using Facetime in Audio only mode, its that clear, and for some reason it is not bothered by the type of connection like standard voice is. I think there is a bit of tuning that can be done to improve this situation.

New 1.07 update is out now.

Minor bug fixes in changelog.

Rdio app now works with carplay.

1.06 still on teh US site.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/Downloads

Version 1.07 on Pioneer Europe

http://www.pioneer.eu/files/support/AVIC-Fx60/EU/AVIC-Fx60_EU5_FW_Ver_107.zip