I am very interested in this bypass myself, I have a Z1 but I will be switching to a Z2 when my local shop gets one in stock, however I was told this would be 3 more weeks. If you guys don't have it figured out by then, I will be happy to help.
I've seen this a few times now. Why are people "swapping" their Z1 for a Z2? Are you saying you're paying another $2K for the same box instead of waiting for the $250 update? I don't get it. Am I missing something here?
I am very interested in this bypass myself, I have a Z1 but I will be switching to a Z2 when my local shop gets one in stock, however I was told this would be 3 more weeks. If you guys don't have it figured out by then, I will be happy to help.
I've seen this a few times now. Why are people "swapping" their Z1 for a Z2? Are you saying you're paying another $2K for the same box instead of waiting for the $250 update? I don't get it. Am I missing something here?
My Z1 was defective so my dealer swapped it for the Z2. And from what I've seen so far I would not pay for an upgrade.
My Z1 was defective so my dealer swapped it for the Z2. And from what I've seen so far I would not pay for an upgrade.
Ah, so now that makes sense. I saw you and someone else say they switched their Z1. I wasn't sure if this was "just because."
well I checked the wiring it seems to be right, the bypass is not working.
z2 bypass seems to be the same. I did a z2 yesterday and it works the same as z1 but still gives parking brake message but does not lock out nav or dvd
I have not tried dvd or nav only tv let me try that now. I did however pull the z2 put the z1 back in, bypass works. I then put the z2 back in bypass not working at least for tv I am going to check dvd and nav now.
z2 bypass seems to be the same. I did a z2 yesterday and it works the same as z1 but still gives parking brake message but does not lock out nav or dvd
Check the 3d calibration status. If the unit is new and hasn't been driven for more then 30-50 miles, then this could be a false sense of success. It will work for a while till the 3d calibration status turns to 3d hybrid. Then you will still get that message and it will lock you out when you start to move.
z2 bypass seems to be the same. I did a z2 yesterday and it works the same as z1 but still gives parking brake message but does not lock out nav or dvd
Check the 3d calibration status. If the unit is new and hasn't been driven for more then 30-50 miles, then this could be a false sense of success. It will work for a while till the 3d calibration status turns to 3d hybrid. Then you will still get that message and it will lock you out when you start to move.
DB, just a little off topic and if this question is annoying and has no relevanc eyou can ignore it, but how in the world do you know sooo much about the avic z's? Just from monkeying around with them? Or are/were you a tech in some audio install place? Pioneer even?
Well I just tried again the bypass is still not working above 15 mph. I checked that secret wire three times now it is inserted properly, but just to be sure I put the z1 back in and it worked so the wire is not the problem. I will keep trying.
we just put a z2 in and were unable to do anything with the bypass if anybody can help please let me know have 3 more to install by tuesday and would like to get bypass by then if possible
I don't have a Z2 so I can't test this but one of the things I needed to look into was what the voltage was on the pins on the unit itself where the open holes were on connector 2.
I assume that connector 2 is the same from the Z1 to the Z2. Does it still have 4 open holes on the right side? Has anyone measured the voltage on the pins? Sticking the meter inside there to measure what the voltage is on those pins.
If they are all 0v then putting in what I call wire #2 http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html#newbypass will not help. You will need to find a wire with 12V on it. You might not want to just indiscriminately grounding wires without measuring how much current would flow if you did, but it's a start.
one pin shows 4.79v the other three on that harness don't show any voltage
which pin is it. I will be going to check the z2 before it leaves the lot on monday and will be able to experiment tommorrow. If anybody has any info i will try them so we can crack this.
one pin shows 4.79v the other three on that harness don't show any voltage
Is it the same one as we use for wire #2?
http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html#newbypass
When I said it was 12V before it might have been 5V, that could be the one that would need to be grounded.
tried it and it didn't work
which slot was it that you tried?
The Z1 was 5v in the magic hole
Is it the same one as we use for wire #2?
http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html#newbypass
When I said it was 12V before it might have been 5V, that could be the one that would need to be grounded.
DB, just a little off topic and if this question is annoying and has no relevanc eyou can ignore it, but how in the world do you know sooo much about the avic z's? Just from monkeying around with them? Or are/were you a tech in some audio install place? Pioneer even?
No not annoying, just didn't noticed it till now. I'm not an installer or pioneer tech. Technically I'm the head of software development for a medical device manufacturing company. We used to be contact engineers (we were recently bought out by a large, and famous, medical company), we would design and manufacture medical devices (implants, and external devices, etc).
I got a Z1 back in the beginning of last year and decided to design a circuit to bypass the Z1 (which it needed) and over the last year or so, helping people install and work with my circuit. Just because I have this strange compulsion to help people and being involved here to sell and support my circuit I started learning by doing and messing with them.
I really don't know as much as you think I do, but thanks! Some of my knowledge is regurgitated from some of the other high post count people here. All the high post regulars here know tons about the Z1, and we have all helped each other learn. It's just who happens to be active at the moment you ask the question as to who does the answering.
I made a deal with the shop I got my Z1, actually it is defective and it was a display unit, but they agreed to exchange it for a new Z2 when they come in stock. Sure hope the bypass gets worked out though.
any luck with the truck
anybody had any luck w/ bypass yet we have pretty much struck out going to tell customer that we will call him when we figure it out unless you guys can possibly help me
i guess T was wrong when he said the old bypass worked just fine.
I sure hope someone comes up with something soon, i get mine installed next Friday. Although I asked the installer if he could do a bypass and he said (and I quote) "No sir, bypassing that safety feature is illegal. We cannot do that for you...."
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Although I asked the installer if he could do a bypass and he said (and I quote) "No sir, bypassing that safety feature is illegal. We cannot do that for you...."
Which probably means: " I just covered my and my shops ass, give me $20 and I will do it." 
DB, just a little off topic and if this question is annoying and has no relevanc eyou can ignore it, but how in the world do you know sooo much about the avic z's? Just from monkeying around with them? Or are/were you a tech in some audio install place? Pioneer even?
No not annoying, just didn't noticed it till now. I'm not an installer or pioneer tech. Technically I'm the head of software development for a medical device manufacturing company. We used to be contact engineers (we were recently bought out by a large, and famous, medical company), we would design and manufacture medical devices (implants, and external devices, etc).
I got a Z1 back in the beginning of last year and decided to design a circuit to bypass the Z1 (which it needed) and over the last year or so, helping people install and work with my circuit. Just because I have this strange compulsion to help people and being involved here to sell and support my circuit I started learning by doing and messing with them.
I really don't know as much as you think I do, but thanks! Some of my knowledge is regurgitated from some of the other high post count people here. All the high post regulars here know tons about the Z1, and we have all helped each other learn. It's just who happens to be active at the moment you ask the question as to who does the answering.
Ah, i see, well thats cool. I work in electronics myself so I guess it would just be a matter of tinkering with my own z2 to learn things. Although... when im t-shooting thousand dollar peices of government electronics, im not all the worried about zapping the box nor myself, its the gubment, they can get more. But, thinking about t-shooting and tinkering with my own 2k box of resistors, transistors, and caps.... eh.... kinda makes my nuts suck up into my stomach.