Hey I am thinking of buying the z1, (Upgrading from a N1 that I tried modding. :lol:) Anyone know where I can get the best possible price? I really don't trust e-bay. Thanks in advance.
-Allen
Posted Jun 10, 2006 · 18:35 UTC#1
Thinking of Buying the Z1
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 13:54 UTC#2
FotoConnection.com
6ave.com
6ave.com
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 17:23 UTC#3
6ave quoted me 1999 :shock:
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 17:31 UTC#4
Abes of maine in NYC, $1579 in stock. I ordered mine through them. They shipped same or next day (I don't remember and I had it in NJ the day after that).
http://www.abesofmaine.com/viewproduct~id~pravicz1.htm
http://www.abesofmaine.com/viewproduct~id~pravicz1.htm
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 18:13 UTC#5
Wait you're in NJ what county? How much for the flasher if I come pick it up?
Also how much was shipping from Abes?
I looked at Mytaxfree.com, they have it for $1479 w/o shipping...just waiting on my friend to see if he can get it cheaper b4 I place an order.
Also how much was shipping from Abes?
I looked at Mytaxfree.com, they have it for $1479 w/o shipping...just waiting on my friend to see if he can get it cheaper b4 I place an order.
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 19:47 UTC#6
allen504tke said:Wait you're in NJ what county? How much for the flasher if I come pick it up?
Also how much was shipping from Abes?
I'm at the very northern tip of morris county. The flasher is still $30. My shipping costs are $0.63 for the postage. So technically I could save you $0.63 but for an ammount so trivial it's easier to just say $30.
And Abes of maine is free ground shipping with that unit. You might not have to pay sales tax either. I don't remember.
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 20:11 UTC#7
Oh for .63 I think I will just order it from you. Damn gas prices are rising up soon anyway. I just have to wait till tonight b4 I order the z1, see if my friends shop will give me a price :lol:. I appreciate the help & look forward to dealing with you for the circuit flasher :P
Posted Jun 12, 2006 · 20:20 UTC#8
allen504tke said:Oh for .63 I think I will just order it from you. Damn gas prices are rising up soon anyway. I just have to wait till tonight b4 I order the z1, see if my friends shop will give me a price :lol:. I appreciate the help & look forward to dealing with you for the circuit flasher :P
Yah, shipping is pretty cheap for these things as long as I stay away from overnight or whatever. Good luck on the price for the unit and if you are that close where you would have thought about driving to get one shipping from me should take a day or 2 at the latest. All the info to order one is right here:
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 17:57 UTC#9
I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 18:28 UTC#10
allen504tke said:I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
Well it's a gamble. If it breaks you will be so happy you got the warranty. If it lasts for 5 years, it was a waste of money. I got it. It's got a hard drive in a motor vehicle. Those components can't be great bedfellows. Who knows. Hopefully you won't need it, but if you do, I'll bet it will ber VERY expensive to repair or repalce. And if in 5 years if it dies they might not have any Z1's you might get a replacement Z3 or what ever is out then.
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 18:55 UTC#11
allen504tke said:I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 19:01 UTC#12
Ooops, I forgot to log in.....the last post was mine.
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
Lil Red
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
Lil Red
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 19:37 UTC#13
Lil Red said:Ooops, I forgot to log in.....the last post was mine.
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
Lil Red
I don't remember but I think it was $199 for 5 years (at least what they offered me). I think the prices have changed, but the price is also much lower than when I bought mine too. I suppose it was better than nothing. And it was about 10% of the purchase price. So it doesn't seem like a deal. You think 1 out of 10 of these will die in five years? I guess it's a deal for them.
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 19:51 UTC#14
I paid $175 for a 3 year warranty. :(
Posted Jun 13, 2006 · 19:59 UTC#15
mj2351 said:I paid $175 for a 3 year warranty. :(
Well with that $199 for the 5 year it cost me $1895 for the Z1 and they were the cheapest around when I bought mine. So don't feel too bad. Next week they were $1600. :(
Posted Jun 14, 2006 · 02:13 UTC#16
149 for 2yrs
Posted Jun 18, 2006 · 06:52 UTC#17
Anonymous said:allen504tke said:I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
In fact it is my understanding that pioneer offers one year manu warr. And the extended warr can still be purchased at that end of that 1st year. Therefore if it breaks within the first year pioneer covers it. If it lasts for the 1st year and you wish to still have it covered, then at that point grab the exttended warr. I hear through grape vine that it is illegal to only allow the extended warr at time of purchase. Plus it's the third party companies making money on the extended warranty's, they'll be more than happy to take your money in 11 months just the same. I'm looking in to this rumor and may be we can keep each other informed.
matt
Posted Jun 18, 2006 · 06:52 UTC#18
Anonymous said:allen504tke said:I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
How much was the warranty?
I didn't purchase the warranty. When I found out that you have to pay for the repairs out of pocket and then trust the warranty company to reimburse you I wasn't too confident in that. Pioneer only has 2 locations that repair the AVIC-Z1 so you have to ship it out as oppose to taking it to a local repair center.
In fact it is my understanding that pioneer offers one year manu warr. And the extended warr can still be purchased at that end of that 1st year. Therefore if it breaks within the first year pioneer covers it. If it lasts for the 1st year and you wish to still have it covered, then at that point grab the exttended warr. I hear through grape vine that it is illegal to only allow the extended warr at time of purchase. Plus it's the third party companies making money on the extended warranty's, they'll be more than happy to take your money in 11 months just the same. I'm looking in to this rumor and may be we can keep each other informed.
matt
Posted Jun 19, 2006 · 15:23 UTC#19
The reality is that a great many of these units are Grey Market, or out of the country goods not meant to be sold in the US.
The reason that these companies are offering warranties at the time of purchase is that they have no US warranty.
Pioneer only sells to authorized dealers in the US. You can tell pretty easily if there is a CE Sticker on the unit or the box.
The really cheap prices are for imported goods that you as a consumer would typically pay some marketing expenses that are part of the price that the merchandise is sold to the retailers.
I don't work for Pioneer, but I have worked in the CE industry for many many years.
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If you buy from one of the bigger CE retailers anywhere you will be able to get instore service, and they do the leg work to get your unit repaired or replaced rather that you having to remove it from your dash, box it up, return it to a repair place, then get it back and have to reinstall.
Back in the day, (i don't know of this ever happening) the story always was that the manufacturer could confiscate it, or charge you the difference of the US retail.
Just food for thought. Its enough to make me think twice about saving $400 or $500 for a paperweight if anything were to happen.
The reason that these companies are offering warranties at the time of purchase is that they have no US warranty.
Pioneer only sells to authorized dealers in the US. You can tell pretty easily if there is a CE Sticker on the unit or the box.
The really cheap prices are for imported goods that you as a consumer would typically pay some marketing expenses that are part of the price that the merchandise is sold to the retailers.
I don't work for Pioneer, but I have worked in the CE industry for many many years.
$
If you buy from one of the bigger CE retailers anywhere you will be able to get instore service, and they do the leg work to get your unit repaired or replaced rather that you having to remove it from your dash, box it up, return it to a repair place, then get it back and have to reinstall.
Back in the day, (i don't know of this ever happening) the story always was that the manufacturer could confiscate it, or charge you the difference of the US retail.
Just food for thought. Its enough to make me think twice about saving $400 or $500 for a paperweight if anything were to happen.
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 13:16 UTC#20
Well just buy it from 6ave.com, their and authorized dealer and you are saving more then $500. Plus I got a 5 year warrenty for 200 bucks, so this is covered for 6 years all at 1700, not bad at all. For the warrenty they said u can bring it back to any 6ave for repair or replacment.
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 18:06 UTC#21
mikecoscia said:Well just buy it from 6ave.com, their and authorized dealer and you are saving more then $500. Plus I got a 5 year warrenty for 200 bucks, so this is covered for 6 years all at 1700, not bad at all. For the warrenty they said u can bring it back to any 6ave for repair or replacment.
Be careful, 6th avenue sells both Grey and US warrantied merchandise.
Check you unit or box for the CE sticker.
if you got that for that price you did get a steal!
Posted Jun 21, 2006 · 19:28 UTC#22
[quote="AnonymousBe careful, 6th avenue sells both Grey and US warrantied merchandise.
Check you unit or box for the CE sticker.
if you got that for that price you did get a steal!
Check you unit or box for the CE sticker.
if you got that for that price you did get a steal!
What does this CE sticker look like? Is it a sticker with the serial number or something like that?
Posted Jun 22, 2006 · 11:29 UTC#23
allen504tke said:I called Abes and ordered it but I also got the extended warranty along with it, should I have not got the extended warranty? :(
Tough question. I generally think they are a scam and so do most consumer advocates:
http://www.consumerjungle.org/junglemam ... Itemid=560
That being said, I must admit that BestBuy's extended warranty is pretty good for very expensive items. I bought a very expensive TV from them so dropped the extra $'s for the warranty and it was hugely useful. Basically it was a convenience though. I would have had to return the TV myself but with the warranty they came to my house 4 times and on the 4th time they were bringing me a replacement for the lemon I had bought. I haven't had any problems at all with the new TV.
So, extended warranties are mostly worthless but for really expensive stuff if the warranty is serviced by the place you bought the item from it might be worth the added security. The problem with the warranty you guys are talking about is, as was stated, you have to pay for the repair first then hope the warranty company will actually pay you.
Posted Jun 22, 2006 · 16:34 UTC#24
Cirbirus said:
Cirbirus, that information is soo good that I want to post the text directly to this thread!
The Latest Scams Circulating the Consumer World. Be warned. Be informed.
July 2005
Extended Warranties
Did you know that an extended warranty is just an insurance policy? Do you really need an insurance policy on your electronics or appliance purchase? The answer is, "No".
The usage rate for extended warranties is even lower than the breakdown rate of appliances and home electronics that consumers buy the extended warranties for. So, when is it a good time to buy extended warranties? Never! Extended warranties are complete rip offs.
Retailers offer extended warranties to consumers because warranties are extremely profitable for the store. Commissioned sales representatives usually earn a higher percentage on the warranty than they do on selling the product.
Most extended warranties are for one year, and Consumer Reports found that a computer is the only electronic product that is likely to need repair in a one-year period. However, it still isn’t a good idea to get an extended warranty on a computer because the value of the computer will drop to nearly nothing within a couple of years. For lower-priced electronics, an extended warranty shouldn’t even be a consideration, since it will be less expensive to directly replace the product than to pay for the warranty.
Play it Safe
Take the money you would have spent on a service contract and create a repair fund.
If you already have a service contract, keep it in a safe place. You will need your original copy to make a claim.
Posted Jun 23, 2006 · 00:10 UTC#25
Most extended warranties are for one year, and Consumer Reports found that a computer is the only electronic product that is likely to need repair in a one-year period.
And then followed by...
For lower-priced electronics, an extended warranty shouldn’t even be a consideration, since it will be less expensive to directly replace the product than to pay for the warranty.
So let's extrapolate this a little bit. Let's take an expensive ($2250) piece of electronics, say a navigation unit, convert it to a computer with a fully functional hard drive and then on top of that we'll put it in a car and drive it down the road over potholes and rail road tracks.
Then the logic would say "Well, you're still wasting money." That might be the case if you paid the full price of $2250. How about if you paid $1500 from the grey market. You might not even have any warranty at all. Now for an extra $200 you can give yourself a 5 year warranty and the net cost is $1700, still less than the $2250 which only comes with a 1 year warranty.
I personally drive an STI, which has a very stiff sometimes jarring suspension. My old CD player used to skip which shouldn't happen in any modern stereo now a days. I can only imagine what will happen to the HD over years of potholes. I only hope it lasts, but if it fails after 4 years, I'll have more to work with than nothing at all.
Just my .02c
-Jeff