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AVIC N3 + XBOX360 = STATIC

By hendry2xtrm4u · Jun 07, 2007in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 35 posts👁️ 6,593 views
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Posted Aug 09, 2007 · 21:52 UTC#26

here we go again with fucking flaming. No bro your wrong, Its totally different. You should read up on it actually. The idea that it powers something is really the only similarity.

 

*The power consumption on a 360 is much greater.

*The need for 'clean' power is so much more necessary with a 360.

*The 360 power supply is around 500 watts compared to the xbox1 which is ~90 watts.

 

*There is more then 'just' 12 volts as suggested previously:

 

the big box (power adapter) is really a power supply... it converts house style electricity to 12v standard

I am hoping this was an attempt to dumb things down so that more could understand. There is 5volts and even 3.3 volts with a small tolerance for variation. Also, it is dc, direct current and not ac, or alternating current.

 

Also, dont be so stupid as to 'just' get a second battery. There are things within the power supply to help regulate and even prevent damage to your expensive console should a spike occur, especially in the vehicle enviroment.

 

Also the suggestion about the second battery bridging when the ign. is off is a bit backwards:

then you need to get some sort of 2nd battery that you can disconnect from the main battery to remove engine noise.... then while the ignitions off have both batterys auto bridge to drain some power from the main battery to the xbox battery...

but thats a pain in the arse to set up

typically its seperated when ign. is off and connects when ign. (usually car is running) is on. This way you can charge both batteries with engine on and not kill your battery thats used to start the car when ign. is off .. dedicating one battery to the xbox or whatever system.

 

Honestly, before you try to flame cuz I dont want to hear it you need to clean up your suggestions, they are greatly flawed and really reckless. This recklessness could very well cause damage. Not to mention say good bye to any warranty you thought you could swindle ms out of

Posted Aug 09, 2007 · 22:01 UTC#27

btw, this post is like a month and a half old, i think the solution has been worked out already.

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 03:30 UTC#28

And i cant belive it took a month to figgure this one out!! the INVERTER!! the 360 takes ALOT OF POWER ro run, why the heck would you get an inverter that is smaller then the XBOX power cord!! lol

 

You need like a 500-1000 Monster power inverter!! something of quality, run it directly to your battery with 8AWG wire!!

 

DONE!, this is to anyone else who reads this post! i hope you skip to the end and read this!!

 

ANy questions, I AM M.E.C.P. Master Installer! I run a shop in New England!

 

Thanks!

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 17:53 UTC#29

the 12v was just to dumb things down....

and it is all the same...

the solution of having the ignition off only is to drain one battery to the other. then when the ignition is on the 360 drains your 2ndary battery without being linked with engine noise and flux in voltage.

it wont work for long road trips but its a perfect solution for around town.

 

running resistors to the 5v line and other lines with lesser voltage will solve those issues....

its all quite simple... but ok flame me and do things ass backwards....

 

just need a cap and proper wiring. keep ac out of the loop

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 19:22 UTC#30
running resistors to the 5v line and other lines with lesser voltage will solve those issues....

 

that is what im talking about, it isnt as simple as that, that is reckless and such suggestions will cause problems and even damage to someones system. If it was that simple why wouldnt the original power brick be just a resistor? instead of a heavy damn near the size of a console in of it self. Cuz its not that simple, lets let this thing go at this because someone is going to read the rubbish here and may even try it. We dont want to have to trouble shoot some problem this causes.

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 20:53 UTC#31
running resistors to the 5v line and other lines with lesser voltage will solve those issues....

 

that is what im talking about, it isnt as simple as that, that is reckless and such suggestions will cause problems and even damage to someones system. If it was that simple why wouldnt the original power brick be just a resistor? instead of a heavy damn near the size of a console in of it self. Cuz its not that simple, lets let this thing go at this because someone is going to read the rubbish here and may even try it. We dont want to have to trouble shoot some problem this causes.

 

 

because they are converting from ac to dc in that brick....

if you leave it dc you dont need the brick.

 

simple as that... anyone who wants to install this system should use logic and accept that it will take more than a highschool education...

if you want a bandaid solution you convert all over the place with inverters out the ying yang... but if you want to do things properly (and logicly) you dont bother with the ac conversion in the unit itself.

 

to leave the brick is like pulling teeth to solve plaque...

just go into the unit and attack it at the problem...

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 22:14 UTC#32

For christ sake

 

you put a resistor on to drop the voltage? from what 12 volts? what happens when you start the car and its running at 13.8 or a bit more volts? better yet, what happens if it drops down to 11 volts? Can anyone say 'regulator' an important part within a power supply.

 

your flawed now shut the fuck up before someone actually tries what your saying.

 

 

 

dude enough already, your being silly and with less then 20 posts you aint making a name for yourself accept idiot. just stop now, thank you

Posted Aug 10, 2007 · 22:41 UTC#33

i'm with 94explorer on this one. the xbox360 takes a TON of juice to make it work. like small microwave ton. close to 800 watts of AC watts. do the math, and you are looking at close to 70 amps of 12v dc power. continuous. all of the 360s i have installed to date have needed a 1000w power inverter, i have used a cobra cpi850 (i think that is the model number) on each one, with no problems. the smaller inverters will just introduse noise into the system or may not come on at all. 8)

Posted Aug 11, 2007 · 00:54 UTC#34

i was not aware you cant buy regulating 12v DC computer 12V power supplys...

 

It blows me away that ignorance rules supreme in this forum no one wants to do things and think for themselves.

 

Just because you dont know how to do it doesnt mean it cant be done.

My xbox runs in my car without an AC inverter using simple logic that in two dc loops ac has no reason to exist.

 

But ok

 

ignorance will win as usual.

Posted Aug 11, 2007 · 01:52 UTC#35
i was not aware you cant buy regulating 12v DC computer 12V power supplys...

 

where did you mention regulator in any other post in this thread? You said use a resistor on the 12 volt line, you are the ignorant one here with everyone telling you what the deal is. You suggest its as simple as putting a resistor on the 12 volt line, yet you do not address the voltage differences with the vehicle running, or during start, or even if the alternator spits out a spike.

 

You are dangerous and really should have your car and xbox taken from you.

 

It blows me away that ignorance rules supreme in this forum no one wants to do things and think for themselves.
That in of itself shows you havent even read jack shit here. YOUR the only ignorant one. So stfu now, before someone tries your idiotic suggestions and causes damage.
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