Hey everyone.....Just wanted everyone's opinion on the install that Circuit City here in Pittsburgh (North Hills) did for me. They installed the D3 with the IPOD adapter and the Bluetooh in a 2007 Ford Escape.

Straight forward install. did they actually hook up the vss and illumination wires?

Straight forward install. did they actually hook up the vss and illumination wires?

HAHAHA you know they didnt do that for me the first time around last year! Damn Circuit Shitty employees (sorry cntry )

Actually....Im not sure about the VSS; however, the navigation is extremely accurate so I am GUESSING that they did. Is there some way I can look in the settings and check to be sure? They did not do the illumination wire on the first try, but after I printed off a page from this forum about it and showed it to them, they did it free of charge and it works great!

Hit the 3D Calibration button under Hardware Settings...if the speedpulse goes up while driving, but stops when idle, it was hooked up right

Actually....Im not sure about the VSS; however, the navigation is extremely accurate so I am GUESSING that they did. Is there some way I can look in the settings and check to be sure? They did not do the illumination wire on the first try, but after I printed off a page from this forum about it and showed it to them, they did it free of charge and it works great!

Map, Menu, System, Hardware Info, Connection Status.

You need to be moving forward or backward a little, if it is connected it will start to count and you will hear it pulse as it counts. If it does nothing, its not connected.

Speed pulse stays at ZERO. I only drove up the road and back so I wasn't going very fast but am guessing that shouldn't make a difference. So now what???? LOL

tell them they did not install it properly. They must do this for free since the VSS wire should be part of the install. The VSS wire is part of the navigation system. It isnt needed to work, but it wouldnt be there if Pioneer didnt want it installed

Take it back to them. Ask them to hook it up, try not to be rude about it. Beleive me being rude about something like that is a good way to get blown off. If they claim not to be able to, they have access to the same info I do.

Speed Sense gray/black ac ABS or brake system control module

Notes: The ABS control module is on the rear driver side of the engine compartment. On the Hybrid models, the brake system control module is on the rear passenger side of the engine compartment.

On vehicles with the 6-disc in-dash CD changer, this wire is also found in the radio harness.

Thanks...That sounds reasonable enough. The guys who I have delt with at this particular Circuit City have been more than awesome thus far and I expect nothing less with this. I'll print out your response and show them just like I have down with the bypass, the illumination wire and the air leak issues I had immediately after the install.....

how many more mistakes will you trust these guys with?

Well.....as long as they are courteous and keep making up for their mistakes professionally while keeping the interior of my car looking new I'll keep going back. I have had nothing but positive experiences thus far and realize that this is a complex system with lots going on. However, I am now having second thoughts about getting my security system done there.

Just how important is the vss? I dont have mine connected and i am wondering if i should take it back to the installer and have them do it on my 2006 Nissan Altima. I as of yet have not had issues with it. Its pretty accurate on a Z2. What do you think take it back or not?

I went back today because they didnt give me my original head unit back and he told me if anything just let him know. So if you guys believe i should have the VSS connected i will take it back to have them do it.

Thanks.

I went a year without having the VSS hooked up, and I "thought" my AVIC was still pretty accurate. Now with it hooked up, I am much happier. When making turns and such, the navi doesnt get confused at all for those two or three seconds.

Well thats fair enough. i will take it back and have them do it.

Let me just state for the record. In my opinion the VSS should always be connected, period! I dont understand these people that say it isn't necessary, it is necessary or it wouldn't be there. There will come a time when your accuracy will suffer and if I pay 1k or 2k for a stereo I want the damn thing to work at its fullest potential as much as possible. And any professional installer that doesn't connect it because they cant find the right wire or just too intimidated to do so should not be installing these units. I had never installed a unit like this until I got this unit and I was able to find the info just fine on this site. Just my 2 cents.

exactly. well said too!

Circuit City screwed up my D2 installation something brutal. After bringing it back to them 3 times, I finally decided to re-work the install myself. It's sad that after a few days of research I was able to do a better job than the so-called 'professionals' at CC.

I bought the Avic Z2. So I looked at Pioneer site for retailers and i found SOUND WAVES, in Van Nuys, CA as a certified retailer. I called them to inquire about having the system installed, which included the whole package being the camera, bluetooth, xm navtraffic, ipod adapter and the steering wheel control. They gave me a quote over the phone of $250.

I arrive there and then they said, "oh no its going to be $350." Then they brought down the price to $325, so i had them install it. I picked up the car and after a day i realized they didnt give me my orignal head unit back from a 2006 Nissan Altima. So i had to return back to the store pick that up. A couple days later i realized they didnt connect the VSS wire ( Vehicle Speed Sensor). So i called them back they tell me to come in

and gave me an appointment. I arrive there and then they tell me that is not part of the installation. That is a "whole different installation" because they just make it work and it takes 1-2 hours more to install the VSS wire. So they wanted to charge me more again over the initial cost of installation. So i call them back to try to settle the problems and i get yelled at by them because they said if i want that done

i will have to pay more because its not included in the installation. I spoke with the manager and thats the person who yelled at me. Young Kid running management. Was Also taking personal calls and yelling over the phone in front of customers.

As a general rule, when you choose to have the young punks at Circuit City or Best Buy install your stuff, you are taking a serious chance that they will screw SOMETHING up.

If it were me, I would DEMAND the VSS wire be connected free of charge because it is part of the Navi system.

I use BB and CC only to buy stuff - NEVER, EVER to install stuff!

As a general rule, when you choose to have the young punks at Circuit City or Best Buy install your stuff, you are taking a serious chance that they will screw SOMETHING up.

 

If it were me, I would DEMAND the VSS wire be connected free of charge because it is part of the Navi system.

 

I use BB and CC only to buy stuff - NEVER, EVER to install stuff!

Well it was SOUND WAVES which is a certified retailer from the Pioneer site. I wrote Pioneer a letter as well as a complaint on the BBB site. Demand? i couldnt even get a word in he just kept talking and yelling. I asked " Will you listen to me? There is no need to yell, i just want to try to resolve this problem" but again he yelled and there was no getting to him. So i said okay, thats fine if thats how you want to run your business.

You were more mellow than I would have been.

I guess, but i just feel that things can be handled in a more mature way and in most cases with a reasonable and more mature person it works. But this kid, i didnt want to yell because it was not going to get any place and i wont stoop as low as he. You know what i mean?

As a general rule, when you choose to have the young punks at Circuit City or Best Buy install your stuff, you are taking a serious chance that they will screw SOMETHING up.

 

If it were me, I would DEMAND the VSS wire be connected free of charge because it is part of the Navi system.

 

I use BB and CC only to buy stuff - NEVER, EVER to install stuff!

And yet you're pmming one of those punks asking install questions.....

Hey Tommy,

I live in North Hills (Pittsburgh) too. Was it the McKnight Road Circuit City? I just purchased a wiring harness from them today since Crutchfield sent me the wrong one.

They were real nice. They let me borrow a screwdriver to take my radio out just to make sure the wiring harness was the right one.

Maybe we can hook up and compare installs. I'm doing mine myself now.