If there is little to no difference in price, I would go with the newer obviously, but if it ended up being 200-300 difference I would either wait and see what all can be done with the 4000 firmware (there will be at least one more revision coming to us to fix things that were promised a year ago... or else class action lawsuit) and potentially the ability to copy the 4100's firmware to the 4000 (if they TRULY are hardware identical) at some point.

What things were promised a year ago that need fixing? Someone posted about avicsync which is a subscription based service, doesn't sound that great to be honest.

Also, someone on a Subaru forum said you can run the 4100 firmware on the 4000nex but you lose a couple things but they weren't sure what exactly. I installed a 4000nex 5 days ago and it is a little quirky but overall I like it. I found a review on Google and the guy got a 256 GB sdxc card working and since the unit has flac support that provides a ton of lossless audio. I haven't noticed any degradation of music compared to using my cars stock clarion head unit so not sure what Tekki is referring to. I have played music over bluetooth, "ipod" over usb and then also using Carplay "Music" icon, all of them sound just fine/great. The person helping me install the radio even commented on how well the music sounded. My car seems to have pretty decent speakers so i'm sure thats part of it as well.

Someone on a Subaru forum said you can run the 4100 firmware on the 4000nex but you lose a couple things but they weren't sure what exactly.

I just tried googling for that, but couldn't locate it. Do you have a link to this by any chance?

I just tried googling for that, but couldn't locate it. Do you have a link to this by any chance?

Yes, I posted there because I have just purchased a Subaru and was going through the Car Audio section and found someone else was thinking about buying the unit. You can see his post here http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=43184112&postcount=16

When I pressed him about where did he read that, he replied with this http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=43185490&postcount=24

So i guess you just have to take his words for what their worth. I really wish I could do Appradio unchained like a rooted android (control my phone from the touch screen) but we'll never see that with Apple I guess all I would really want is Waze, hopefully ios9 brings more CarPlay apps and updates to CarPlay itself.

Thanks freefallnick!

Interesting.

It sounds like he is just wishing to be able to flash it and that his friend had a 4100 (not a flashed 4000).

Any thoughts on how one would go about trying to flash it? I'm tempted to try.

I guess just download the x100 firmware, and follow the regular update procedure. I suspect though that there is some failsafe in place that will prevent us from going through with it, some sort of "firmware mismatched" screen. I don't know though, and would love to find out as well!

I highly doubt it works too especially because of the version number but i'm trying it now anyway. I did rename the file from 5100 to 5000 but besides that have left it alone. If this doesn't work I will see what the other files contain to see if there is a version that I can change from 1.03 to 1.09 to see if a newer version makes a difference.

well I'll be damned it worked. Proof below. it seems everything is working that I have checked, but I couldn't get android Auto to work, however I only played around with it for a few minutes, i'll have more time to fiddle tomorrow.

Let me know what you guys think!

well i'll be damned. EVERYTHING works. I had to reset seriusXM to get it to stop closing once opened but that was easy. AndroidAUTO works too!!!!!!!!! you just have to use an actual USB cable and not the slimport cable for appradio, this was a simple swap too.

hope I made some people happy!

I'll be coming up with a way to distribute this safely tomorrow. Stay tuned, in the meantime, know it is possible.

well i'll be damned. EVERYTHING works. I had to reset seriusXM to get it to stop closing once opened but that was easy. AndroidAUTO works too!!!!!!!!! you just have to use an actual USB cable and not the slimport cable for appradio, this was a simple swap too.

 

hope I made some people happy!

 

I'll be coming up with a way to distribute this safely tomorrow. Stay tuned, in the meantime, know it is possible.

So you're saying it takes a little more work than just updating?

well i'll be damned. EVERYTHING works. I had to reset seriusXM to get it to stop closing once opened but that was easy. AndroidAUTO works too!!!!!!!!! you just have to use an actual USB cable and not the slimport cable for appradio, this was a simple swap too.

 

hope I made some people happy!

 

I'll be coming up with a way to distribute this safely tomorrow. Stay tuned, in the meantime, know it is possible.

That's GREAT news. Please keep up posted. Did you do anything other than a regular update?

Covert_Death  have you noticed any advantages to running the updated software?  Do you think this will work with all NEX.  mine is a 6000.

i have tried 2 sd cards and 1 flash drive and each time it says "read error" I have tried my chromebook and my pc to transfer the files. I have changed the filename from 5100 to 5000.???

PLEASE DONT TRY TO JUST UPDATE IT, I am trying to do this the safest way possible and make sure that all the features work and then I WILL distribute it for you guys.

there is more to it than just trying to do the update (it ignores the files without change). I modified a few portions of the 1.03 FW and replaced a few files with that of the 1.08 FW and finally got it to take.

ONLY thing that I can't get to work right now is pandora app. before i flashed it pandora required BT and a USB connection, after the flash it ONLY wants BT connection but I don't get any audio, the app launches i can skip songs and the time ticks through like its playing but no audio. It could be my phone (its rooted on a nightly from CM) so I'll check with another stock android phone I have. If not I'll try replacing the BT SW from that of the 4000 1.08. 

I'm also going to see if I can flash back to 1.08 so that we have a safety net, but one step at I time. Once I feel comfortable i'll go ahead and release it. 

If I posted my paypal would you guys consider donating for me making it public? I am just curious. 

Also once I get the 4000 figured out i'll mess with the 6000 and 8000 if people are willing to test it for me (I don't have these units obviously)?

As for advantages, it does take a bit longer to fully but up, maybe closer to a minute at this point. but It feels a bit smoother as well, less lag on the input for sure.

is there any added features?

If I posted my paypal would you guys consider donating for me making it public? I am just curious. 

 

Also once I get the 4000 figured out i'll mess with the 6000 and 8000 if people are willing to test it for me (I don't have these units obviously)?

I have an 8000, and will most definitely gladly donate if you get around to providing an update for it!

I have an 8000, and will most definitely gladly donate if you get around to providing an update for it!

Would you be willing to test for me as well? I want to understand everything better on my 4000 first before branching out to other models but once I get to that point (and I intend to ASAP) would you be willing to help verify / test for me?

is there any added features?

AndroidAUTO is the big one... I'm sure there might be some other small additions too. It does run a bit smoother and respond faster too.

PLEASE DONT TRY TO JUST UPDATE IT, I am trying to do this the safest way possible and make sure that all the features work and then I WILL distribute it for you guys.

 

there is more to it than just trying to do the update (it ignores the files without change). I modified a few portions of the 1.03 FW and replaced a few files with that of the 1.08 FW and finally got it to take.

 

ONLY thing that I can't get to work right now is pandora app. before i flashed it pandora required BT and a USB connection, after the flash it ONLY wants BT connection but I don't get any audio, the app launches i can skip songs and the time ticks through like its playing but no audio. It could be my phone (its rooted on a nightly from CM) so I'll check with another stock android phone I have. If not I'll try replacing the BT SW from that of the 4000 1.08. 

 

I'm also going to see if I can flash back to 1.08 so that we have a safety net, but one step at I time. Once I feel comfortable i'll go ahead and release it. 

 

If I posted my paypal would you guys consider donating for me making it public? I am just curious. 

 

Also once I get the 4000 figured out i'll mess with the 6000 and 8000 if people are willing to test it for me (I don't have these units obviously)?

 

As for advantages, it does take a bit longer to fully but up, maybe closer to a minute at this point. but It feels a bit smoother as well, less lag on the input for sure.

I dont use pandora at all. Ill throw you a few$$ if you want. Even if you want to PM me and tell me what files you changed, ill gladly do that as I already work in IT so i know my way around a PC

Would you be willing to test for me as well? I want to understand everything better on my 4000 first before branching out to other models but once I get to that point (and I intend to ASAP) would you be willing to help verify / test for me?

Absolutely. The sooner the better

Also, same as newtonfb just said goes for me: I am completely comfortable changing file names, strings in files, etc. if that's easier for you.

AndroidAUTO is the big one... I'm sure there might be some other small additions too. It does run a bit smoother and respond faster too.

runs smoother and faster response too.  let me know if you can flash back, if you can, I am willing to test the 6000 for you.  feel free to pm me

I am wondering if pioneer will stop firmware updates on Gen 1 NEX?  :/

I am wondering if pioneer will stop firmware updates on Gen 1 NEX?  :/

pretty sure they said only one more but IDK where I read that. I would assume gen 1 is dead in the water now.

pretty sure they said only one more but IDK where I read that. I would assume gen 1 is dead in the water now.

Josh, and I just bought mine.  Wish there was a trade in program.    :/ 

Josh, and I just bought mine.  Wish there was a trade in program.    :/ 

lol right!?