Thanks guys....so pretty much as long as I have a 256gb SD card I can exceed the 1,500 folder/15,000 media file limit?

Thanks guys....so pretty much as long as I have a 256gb SD card I can exceed the 1,500 folder/15,000 media file limit?

The only way i got around it, was having all my songs on iTunes match, and my phone hooked up to usb1.(although iTunes match limits to 25000 songs)  I think if you are going to hook up a phone to one usb port, put limit on  sdcard, and limit on solid state drive and have 30000 songs available. That is the only way I can see. If you use google music, the limit is 50000 songs.

The only way i got around it, was having all my songs on iTunes match, and my phone hooked up to usb1.(although iTunes match limits to 25000 songs)  I think if you are going to hook up a phone to one usb port, put limit on  sdcard, and limit on solid state drive and have 30000 songs available. That is the only way I can see. If you use google music, the limit is 50000 songs.

Either of those methods (iTunes Match, Google Music) is going to use up data allowance on your phone plan...

30,000 spanned across two drives is more than enough in a vehicle.  I have 17,000 songs in my [active] computer library.... which is over 1200 hours of music.  It'd take over 50 days listening 24/7 to listen to every song just once.  One helluva road trip...    That's why I resort to a 120GB iPod Classic and just load up my "favorites" playlists on it.

Nevertheless, I understand it is sometimes about impressing passengers by having such an expansive selection readily available (I call it DJ mentality).  If wanting to avoid using up data allowance for streaming music, I suggest looking into the DLNA method I mentioned earlier.  All it involves is a wifi hard drive with a media server built in (and your phone with a DLNA player app).  There are several not-all-that-expensive models available.  I was looking at a Seagate 1TB Wireless Plus, currently $160 at Staples.... but the choice may depend on what format(s) you want to stream, your phone, and the app used.

Somewhat dated write up... http://www.colourmylearning.com/2013/12/top-5-wireless-portable-hard-drives/ ...but it gets the gist across for the unaware.

That said, I have heard about some connectivity issues and am unsure of the quality...

Fortunately for me, unlimited data plan. iPhone is 64gb. I do like having any song my mood desires to hear, available.

I have a 128gb 6plus.....have about less than 3gb left

With T-Mobile spotify/pandora/apple music does not count against data plan.

In 2015 1,500 folder/15,000 media file limit is inexcusable

I have a 128gb 6plus.....have about less than 3gb left

With T-Mobile spotify/pandora/apple music does not count against data plan.

In 2015 1,500 folder/15,000 media file limit is inexcusable

I agree with you and have a feeling it will be awhile before the car stereo manufactors build there car stereos for current technologies. But then again, probably their ploy to get us to update/replace our units every two years. As I count, that's about how often I do, and only for the newest gimmick they throw at us. Hell, if I had enough room in my dash, I'd throw in a nice home receiver and be done the life of my car. Home units are right on it, why can't the car manufactors to this......

I agree with you and have a feeling it will be awhile before the car stereo manufactors build there car stereos for current technologies. But then again, probably their ploy to get us to update/replace our units every two years. As I count, that's about how often I do, and only for the newest gimmick they throw at us. Hell, if I had enough room in my dash, I'd throw in a nice home receiver and be done the life of my car. Home units are right on it, why can't the car manufactors to this......

 

 

For me it's not cost effective to change every 2,3,4 years

I was able to price match my 4000NEX from an authorized dealer using an amazon price. +Installation/cables

I can't afford it

I have a question for anyone using an SSD. That is what I am using but when trying to do a song search, just using the 'fwd' button on the HU, it will not let you 'rev' to the previous song. Has anyone seen this and how, if so, did you correct that? Kinda sucks sometimes if you accidently hit the fwd button and want to back up to the previous song.

I have a question for anyone using an SSD. That is what I am using but when trying to do a song search, just using the 'fwd' button on the HU, it will not let you 'rev' to the previous song. Has anyone seen this and how, if so, did you correct that? Kinda sucks sometimes if you accidently hit the fwd button and want to back up to the previous song.

I haven't seen one post stating these issues, other than to say "yea, I did it and it works great". Ha, no throphies given from here, but it does help build my 'ignore' BS list.

OH I take that back, One guy stated after the fact of trying this "I should have said the first load could take up to 20 minutes or longer,". I still offer no help trophies here, how can you do that when someone leads you into land mines,, and probably laughing all the while. It doesn't matter going forward. I can't here that person any longer...

My smaller USB (64g) drive works fine searching forward and back. However the 1TB SSD USB drive takes forever searching backwards and a lot slower searching forward when compared to the smaller USB drives. I also notice music info is hit and miss on the 1TB drive. Sometimes it pops up at the end of a track, sometime nada. Large formatted USB drives are a pain in the rear. I wish more people that tried this were more up front with the problems with these large formatted SSD drives.

I haven't seen one post stating these issues, other than to say "yea, I did it and it works great". Ha, no throphies given from here, but it does help build my 'ignore' BS list.

OH I take that back, One guy stated after the fact of trying this "I should have said the first load could take up to 20 minutes or longer,". I still offer no help trophies here, how can you do that when someone leads you into land mines,, and probably laughing all the while. It doesn't matter going forward. I can't here that person any longer...

I'm using the MyDigitalSSD 128GB. Can't search backwards at all. Really sucks. My music info works fine though.

I'm using the MyDigitalSSD 128GB. Can't search backwards at all. Really sucks. My music info works fine though.

Anything over 64g seems to be a pain. The 128 is slow, but better if u format to Fat32. Don't go any beyond the 128G and don't listen to anyone that tells you it works great,, there're FOS. I really think you will be happy at 64g. Seems to be a real sweet spot

Anything over 64g seems to be a pain. The 128 is slow, but better if u format to Fat32. Don't go any beyond the 128G and don't listen to anyone that tells you it works great,, there're FOS. I really think you will be happy at 64g. Seems to be a real sweet spot

Will the 64 be able to 'backup' to previous songs though? That's the only issue I am having.

Will the 64 be able to 'backup' to previous songs though? That's the only issue I am having.

Yes it works for me however my 128 is glitchy. The 128 seems to search forward fine, but backwards alot of times hangs up

captkirk,

First of all, I could give a rats rear, who you listen to on this forum, or what you believe. Second, this thread is about the folder and file limit of the head unit. Not about searching forward, backward etc. The reason the larger drives seem glitchy, is due to the large number of files, not the size of the SSD. I DO have a 480gb SSD, and 256GB SDCARD, and neither of those are glitchy, mainly because they contain  mp4, ripped DVDs, in which at files sizes around 1-2 GBs, There are not that many files and it takes no time to read(initially or thereafter). Mp3s are much smaller and therefore the same size discs will hold tenfold the amount of files, and take a while( which we already established). When I say it works fine for me, I am not FOS, like you so rudely said. 

Tim98TA, The more files you have on the disc you use, the longer it will take to read, search, etc. My experience with searching backwards, is when I have it on random play, it will not search backwards. When i take it off random play, i hit the backward search twice and it goes to previous song, or once if i want to start song over. 

Tim98TA, The more files you have on the disc you use, the longer it will take to read, search, etc. My experience with searching backwards, is when I have it on random play, it will not search backwards. When i take it off random play, i hit the backward search twice and it goes to previous song, or once if i want to start song over. 

Thanks. I guess it kinda sucks that you have to take it off of random just to go back. I think I have about 1500+ songs on my drive.

It initially reads fast and will fast forward almost as fast as I can hit the button.

... My experience with searching backwards, is when I have it on random play, it will not search backwards. When i take it off random play, i hit the backward search twice and it goes to previous song, or once if i want to start song over. 

Thanks. I guess it kinda sucks that you have to take it off of random just to go back....

So if you take it off random play, does it go back to songs that were random played, or different songs?

I can't try because I use an iPod for my music.

Jhren-It will only reverse play alphabetically, unfortunately.

One thing to remember, these head units are like an Android mini-pc, with the exception of not having an extremely fast cpu, and the only ram(that I know of) is the internal sdcard. They are limited by USB 2.0 speed,(no sata) and space on the sdcard(since operating system is on sdcard). I think the navi units have 16gb internal sdcard, and the non-navi have 8gb. Relating to SSDs, it does not matter how fast they are, because the head unit will only read as fast as USB 2.0 allows and the cpu can process.

@joemamma

I'm aware of all that... but I don't think that has anything to do with going back in random play.  I think the unit chooses one random song at a time and doesn't make or retain a "randomized playlist".

An iPod generates a "randomized playlist" when set to "shuffle".  I haven't really used my NEX with my iPod much.  My NEX is in my recreational vehicle.  My everyday vehicle is where I generally keep my iPod, connected to a Kenwood DNN990HD.  It too is an android based head unit, but operates in random just as shuffle does on the iPod.  In fact, if I disconnect my iPod from the head unit, the playlist is still in the random order it was on the head unit.

The first part of my post was just answering your question.

The other was general info for those members who may not understand our head units limitations. I did not mean to imply that you did not know any of this. My apologies.

... My apologies.

Accepted

So if you take it off random play, does it go back to songs that were random played, or different songs?

I haven't tried that yet.

I know when it's not on random, it simply repeats the song 3-4 times. It would be on repeat setting.

This is hilarious! I bought my AVIC-X930BT back in 2011. Any guess what my file limit is? My limit is 2,500 files and 300 folders. I reached my max a very long time ago. Hope the news spreads like wild fire when one with a 30,000 file limit comes into production. I may retire the old one then.