Ok I have been mulling this over for the last 2 days or so. I just got a avic-d3 installed in my car with the ipod direct cable. Everything works great except that I have an Iphone and the video does not work.

With the software update to Iphone 1.1.1, video out now works with the "apple AV composit cable". This cable comes with 3 RCA plugs (video, left, right) and an USB. How about plugging the rca plugs into the AV1 plugs of the main pioneer head unit harness and the USB into the optional USB kit?

With this setup you should be able to control your ipod stuff with the usb interface and then for video, switch over to AV1 on the head unit and control it with the iphone.

Of course the main hitch that I see to this is that the USB optional kit does not list the avic-d3 and who knows if you can actually control the iphone through the AV composite cable....

Thoughts / comments appreciated.

No, you wont be able to control the iphone from the D3 with the USB option. And as far as the composite cable, I am currently researching that possibility myself. But I dont think it will work without plugging the cable into the iphone dock or the USB power supply it comes with. I will post when I find out for sure.

So the guy who installed my d3 is curious too and will do the AV component cable to the AV1 RCA plugs for me for free. I currently plan on attaching the usb to a cigarette lighter power adapter so we don't have to mess with the cable.

I would think this will work, just didn't want to have 2 cables in my arm rest, one for video and one for using the ipod interface.

It works... guess there was no reason it wouldn't.. just have to use the iphone to control stuff.

im going to be using my iphone with my avic D1 soon using the a/v composite apple cable, and the a/v input on the back of my D1. My question is, if i have a passenger, they will probably want to watch movies on it which is fine etc, but what about when im on my own, i kind of wanted to use the iphone as the ipod, and play music through the a/v ports. Im assuming this would work, but im just wondering now, will the sound keep playing music on my d1, even if i switch to the map mode if i need navi? or do the a/v inputs only work when the D1 is on a current screen?

It will play music still. Nav works independent of the A/V sources

excellent. THANKS!

yeah once I got over spending money on the ipod interface initially, I'm actually pretty happy with using the component cables. Using them actually works better than the ipod interface as far as stopping and starting the music and such when calls come in.

Just wish the iphone would display the album art in the video out.. that would be sweet!

Go with a more direct quick input and take the iPhone AV Composite cable RCA plugs, attach a female-to-female "bullet" on the the ends, and then connect to a standard male RCA to mini-plug AV cable and plug it right into AV1 on the front of the unit. This avoids having to mess with the cables on the rear of the headend and allows not only for iPhone quick input, but you can put any other video source through the same AV Cable. It works as I've walked several folks on this site through this process and all report working fine. Note though, you still have to control video on the iPhone as the D3.

OK - so I have the A/V Composite cable and an iPod interface cable on my D3 for my iPhone.

Why can't we just find the pinout for the connector on the A/V cable and splice in the RCA plugs for Video and Audio into the Pioneer interface cable? It would still mean controlling video from the iPod, unless it would just happen to work.

At least there would be only one connector to the iPhone...

BTW - only video is missing from my display when in video mode with the iPhone, but the audio works fine. Is this the same for everyone else?

If so (referencing my last post), we just need to tap the video correctly.

People have been trying that since the new ipod classics came out (they have the same problem as the iphone and ipod touch)... Nobody's had any success.

ya as of now i dont think is is possible. The guys who installed my D3 said there is no way to do it yet

If you want video, buy the part below. Run it through the A/V input...You will not be able to control the Ipod from the deck, or charge it from this cable. No way around this, so don't ask anymore

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/W ... =MB129LL/A

Of the one thing I have noticed on this forum, it's the negativity coming from a few individuals. All you have made me want to do is ask the question 100 times more. Quit telling people to buy the Apple A/V cable - I have one and use it daily. Read my post carefully, and you might notice that.

You fail to recognize that some individuals may know a bit more about this system and the iPhone than you do. After all, this isn't rocket science but rather simple electronics. Put the correct people together, and we may just be able to come up with something.

Evolution is a good thing, but some species refuse to follow along...

So, back to the question at hand:

IF there is a video signal lead (and a ground, or common ground) in the Pioneer cable, then we just need to steal it and run it to the RCA input. Keeping it out of the Pioneer input may be a good thing, but trying to parallel it may be interesting as well. Then, find the L & R audio, parallel it to the RCA input, and you should have it working.

The goal is not to skip Apple's iPhone video control, but rather to have only one cable to plug in!

dam...of coarse i have the component ones. just my luck. whatever, dvds are way better anyway

Of the one thing I have noticed on this forum, it's the negativity coming from a few individuals. All you have made me want to do is ask the question 100 times more. Quit telling people to buy the Apple A/V cable - I have one and use it daily. Read my post carefully, and you might notice that.

 

You fail to recognize that some individuals may know a bit more about this system and the iPhone than you do. After all, this isn't rocket science but rather simple electronics. Put the correct people together, and we may just be able to come up with something.

 

Evolution is a good thing, but some species refuse to follow along...

 

So, back to the question at hand:

 

IF there is a video signal lead (and a ground, or common ground) in the Pioneer cable, then we just need to steal it and run it to the RCA input. Keeping it out of the Pioneer input may be a good thing, but trying to parallel it may be interesting as well. Then, find the L & R audio, parallel it to the RCA input, and you should have it working.

 

The goal is not to skip Apple's iPhone video control, but rather to have only one cable to plug in!

So basically you want to take the video signal from the AVout and splice it into the Pioneer ipod interface cable instead of using the pinouts on the dock connector for video, right?

Well first, before even bothering to hack apart $60 or so worth of cables, you should determine if the ipod will actually output video through the AV port while simultaneously being controlled by the Pioneer interface cable via the dock connector. If it does, the next step would be to determine which wires inside the Pioneer cable carry the video signal and the video ground, cut those, and splice in the corresponding wires from the cable plugged into the ipod's AV out.

And even then, you have to be VERY good, because those wires are rather thin, and any splices in them if not done perfectly would just lead to a really crappy video signal.

And that's if it even works.

imo not worth it

ill stick with dvds

And the reason you may see some negitive attitudes from some of the "mega posters" is the question has been asked and answered more than 2 dozen times. On more than 2 dozen threads. By more than 2 dozen people with less than 10 posts and no idea how to use a search feature.

I say if you really want to hack two cables up, run the risk of damaging your radio, possibly short something out in your iPhone, all so you can have one cable in your console instead of two, then do it. If you are successfull, say you did it here and I am sure Pioneer will pay you to begin hacking cables for all of their customers that have the newer iPods and want the video feature to work.

I for one will continue using DVD's.

HiFiSi - thanks for the time you spent to respond. The only real way to tell what is going on will be to get into the pinout and hook up my scope. If the video signal is back-fed, I'll just leave it out of the Pioneer input and only go to the RCA. Noise from the ground is my largest concern.

So, maybe a $100 total investment. I have like 6 of the A/V cables laying around my house, so no biggie there. Maybe if I fry the radio then it will be $1K for a new HU and iPhone. IMHO, it would be worth it, and I'll take that risk. Heck, now it is a personal challenge.

Because, as you all know, money won't be an issue since Pioneer will be knocking down my door asking me to sell my cables. WTF?

Still lots of opinions, but no additional info - and that is what hours of searches led me to!

Oh, and my kids don't give a piss about DVD quality, they just want new SpongeBob episodes!

You could always pick up one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2-5-PORTABLE-VIDEO-HDD-PLAYER-MP4-MP3-DVD-DIVX-AVI_W0QQitemZ300208289211QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3757QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and toss a $75 hard drive in it and hook it to the D3's rear AV input. You could put all your movies and music on it and control everything VIA the on screen menus with the remote control. Seems like an easier (and potentially much less costly) alternative.

That is actually kinda cool. I have a couple of Archos DVR that I use as remote viewing terminals for video when flying my UAV stuff, but they are hard to keep updated.

The whole point of doing the cable mod is just that, to save me a bit of time and make things simple.

I update my iPhone 2-4 times a day, and I can keep everyone happy with it. It has actually become the tool I was looking for. Now, I just need to be able to take advantage of its features.

I think I'll get a couple more Pioneer cables to hack on tomorrow if someone local has them.

Thanks again!

i understand that when you play a video on your iphone it projects it on the screen, but what about youtube videos?? iwill it also show up, since its using the iphones media player?

I doubt it, as that's done inside the iphone's web browser and not through the actual video player... could be wrong, though.

yea that makes sense. Hopefully that isnt the case. itd be nice to watch youtube vids on there. at least i have my ipod to watch movies from on the D3. ill tes it out and let everyone know.