hi,
i asked bunch of installers in our area, south jesey but everyone says that we cant put it, some say its not permitted by law , some say its not safe and we dont know what it might do to unit, please any feedback for what should i do . others say that if i do alter the installation they did than it voids the installation and unit warranty. i am kinda wondering to what to do . please advice thanks

It's probably a no no for a shop to install this since the lock-out is in place to satisfy the law. In fact if you get into an accident and tell the cops that you were distracted by the DVD you were watching, they'll want to know who did the mod and might charge them.
The answer is to install it yourself. It looks pretty simple.
As all that it does is flash the lights automatically, nothing is done to the Z1 itself and nothing can harm it or even be traceable if it had to be taken in for repairs.
Now remember: Watching DVD while driving is for Passengers only!! :shock:

Where about in south jersey are you?

Anonymous said:

As all that it does is flash the lights automatically, nothing is done to the Z1 itself and nothing can harm it or even be traceable if it had to be taken in for repairs.
:shock:

Well that is not exactly what it does. It does not flash the lights at all...it makes the Z1 think the lights were flashed. As for the install goes...very simple I believe most people will have more problems removing the HU from the dash. The actual install of the Ducatiboy unit (after finding all the wires) should take less than 30 mins.

i am in atlantic city, new jersey... yeah it seems a problem to take the HU out of dash.

Well...if you're not comfortable taking the HU from the dash I would suspect installing the Ducatiboy unit is the least of your worries. Hopefully you find someone willing to do the install for you. I know it's possible because some users have had success with having the units installed. Too bad I live in the west coast because I would've been glad to help you.

PM or email me at [email protected], might be able to make a trip down that way in the near future and help ya out.

I don't think it's against the law to unlock the Z1 with the bypass. If that were the case, ALL factory units would also be locked. My 06 Acura unit works just fine when in motion...as I'm hearing most European models do. So it can't be a legal issue. My guess is it's a liability issue. If that's the case, I'm sure an installer would shy away from it.

It really is easy to hook up Ducatiboy's circuit. As long as you can get your head unit out, you can splice it in. It's almost foolproof.

03Aviator said:

I don't think it's against the law to unlock the Z1 with the bypass. If that were the case, ALL factory units would also be locked. My 06 Acura unit works just fine when in motion...as I'm hearing most European models do. So it can't be a legal issue. My guess is it's a liability issue. If that's the case, I'm sure an installer would shy away from it.

It really is easy to hook up Ducatiboy's circuit. As long as you can get your head unit out, you can splice it in. It's almost foolproof.

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In NJ, it is illegal to have motion video playing on a screen in view of the driver. I had a small monitor that was no longer hooked up in my last truck and I couldnt even pass inspection until I removed the screen. They gave me a red rejected sticker and a month or two grace period to remove it.

I dont think, however, that it is illegal to have the navigation features unlocked; it's just a liability issue that no one wants to take responsibility for. Thank the lawyers and the greedy jackasses that take no responsibility for their own actions.

That makes sense. I know that even though I can now watch a DVD on the Z1, I think it's irresponsible to do so...and if you were in an accident and they discovered you were watching a DVD, you would be in a heap of trouble...especially if you hurt someone else Wouldn't be too hard to tell either if you're car was disabled to the point you couldn't eject the DVD...or you were hurt and were unable to get to it.

eu_phoria said:

hi,
i asked bunch of installers in our area, south jesey but everyone says that we cant put it, some say its not permitted by law , some say its not safe and we dont know what it might do to unit, please any feedback for what should i do . others say that if i do alter the installation they did than it voids the installation and unit warranty. i am kinda wondering to what to do . please advice thanks

If you're willing to come up to Deptford, i'll have my installer put it in for you...Custom Factory Installation...

hi tomar,
yeah deptford is not too far. please let me know what you meant by custom factory installation ? i have rav4 2006. please if you can leave your email , i can message you thanks

custom factory installation is the name of the company. They are located in Deptford...they worked on both my benz and bimmer. Cool guys and don't charge alot. I'd be happy to have them work on the rav..

I thought i was set up for PM...if not, you can email me at
[email protected]...please put AVIC Deptford in the subject line so I know it's not a spam...I only keep this email address to divert spam.

You can also go to Streeteffectz in Union NJ. There's a guy there named Ron (I think that's his name) who did a great job on my install including ducatiboy circuit.

If an installer will not put the flasher in (or atleast step aside for 5 minutes while you install it yourself), then they do not need your hard earned money. An option is to provide the installer with the directions for install without explaining what the circuit does (don't ask, don't tell policy).

As another option, you can have your installer label the 3 wires the flasher curcuit needs and make sure they are accessable from under the dash. The install is pretty simple, so you could just do it yourself after the shop is complete.

I would NEVER purchase and install the Z1 without the flasher circuit. Far too much functionality is disabled without it (phone and navigation).

One final thought: If a person's desire is to drive a car AND watch a movie at the same time, then they are being very inconsiderate of their own saftey and the saftey of all others too.

Easiest thing to do would be to install the mod on the harness BEFORE giving it to the shop. They'll just think it's part of the device. Since ducatiboy kept the wiring the same colors the only thing they'll be confused about is the white input wire, either label it "illum" or get a highlighter or get some orange wire and fuse it to the white and tape off the white section so they can't see it, then tape it up all nice and neat and give it to them for install.

That is a GREAT idea. Best I have heard actually. Won't work with the places that won't install it unless you buy it from them, but it will work for all the other installers that maybe won't want to do the install, but would accept your box already purchased. Would a more experienced installer that has already done a few AVIC-Z1 installs notice the difference right away? What do you suppose would happen then?

rapayn1 said:

That is a GREAT idea. Best I have heard actually. Won't work with the places that won't install it unless you buy it from them, but it will work for all the other installers that maybe won't want to do the install, but would accept your box already purchased. Would a more experienced installer that has already done a few AVIC-Z1 installs notice the difference right away? What do you suppose would happen then?

Just tell him its an illum adapter for your car since your illum wire is pulsed and the unit wants constant.

mivey said:

If an installer will not put the flasher in (or atleast step aside for 5 minutes while you install it yourself), then they do not need your hard earned money. An option is to provide the installer with the directions for install without explaining what the circuit does (don't ask, don't tell policy).

As another option, you can have your installer label the 3 wires the flasher curcuit needs and make sure they are accessable from under the dash. The install is pretty simple, so you could just do it yourself after the shop is complete.

I would NEVER purchase and install the Z1 without the flasher circuit. Far too much functionality is disabled without it (phone and navigation).

One final thought: If a person's desire is to drive a car AND watch a movie at the same time, then they are being very inconsiderate of their own saftey and the saftey of all others too.

well said....

As an installer myself it is the law for me to inform the customer of what the laws are in the state about video in the view of the driver. However on several occassions i have had the customer return after i am off the clock and would do the bypass on my own time so that way no one can blame the company...and then to cover myself i make the customer sing a paper releasing me from any responsability (which i believe should be available through any install shop)...so my advice would be just find an installer that has some free time on the side...give them a "tip" for thier troubles and be on your way....

P.S. Any installer worth his wieght would notice the harness had been altered. just get the shop to install it and then have someone on the side do the bypass. :shock:

Dude came up to Deptford and spoke with my installer (friend). Now he's having the BT, Ducati Flasher, and AVIC Z1 installed. He even worked out a plan for a protective cover mod...

Going to Tweeter, Circuit City et al is for people who don't know anybody...a true custom place will do the best work...it's like sitting with your financial advisor and mapping out a plan...

yes tromar.... you were very helpful too. i did figure put a plan with the installer and now we are waiting to implement accordingly and lets see how it turns out to be. i will post pics later once its done thanks

euphoria said:

yes tromar.... you were very helpful too. i did figure put a plan with the installer and now we are waiting to implement accordingly and lets see how it turns out to be. i will post pics later once its done thanks

He was a little pissed at me when you left because we modified the install plan after he agreed to a price. Once we changed the config, he wanted to change the price but I told him to honor the agreement eventhough the request had changed...

You'll be happy with the outcome...plus, any problems you have will be address years from now...

Good luck.

so double thanks to you. pls check your mail , i sent one to you thanks

I had my installer who refused to install the circuit, run the wires too the drivers side kick panel...the only question is, I think they installed the parking brake correctly, because video will only play with it down but flashing the lights works just fine...If I install the flasher as is will it work?