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Do ya think I could get the BT1 to work with the N4 or not chance of that ya think?

Hey guys! I have a question for all of you out there. Maybe someone can help me. I have the Pioneer CDBTB200 and an N4. I have a T Mobile Wing smart phone. I can not get the unit to pair with my phone or do anything else for that matter. It keeps saying invalid device. I have downloaded the Jetware application and it didn't do any good. Any more help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance! Shaun

I'm with tblazin on that one. Plus, I'm shocked that it's not in the D series instructions. I've never owned a D or installed it but I've installed an N2, 3, and now 4 and they all list the purple and pink wires in the schematic.

Shaun

Yeah, I'll go with that. It's kinda like what I said about the XM data unit. Even though theres a hell of a lot of us on the forums and stuff, the AVIC community is still relatively small when ya think about it. I just got a new N4 and many of the stores still don't even carry it, and Heaven forbid install it lol. I think it's definitely an experience thing and the only way ya learn is by doing stuff like that. It's awesome that he's taking the constructive criticism though and fixing things without hassle. I wish Best Buy had done that lol. To tell ya the truth, that's how I got started in this line of work. It wasn't that I COULDNT DO IT but i just DIDNT WANT TO because I was lazy so then up and comes a time where I find a great deal on a better car and want to sell my car for the trade in value. When ya have to go into something to take it back OUT is when ya really find out how good of a job was done in putting it IN lol. Since then I've done my own builds, install work, I even learned how to fiberglass. Stuff like that sharpens ya skills at least! HA!

Shaun

Hey all,

Sorry about the extensiveness but I took "What I need from you guys is detailed instructions on what needs to be done to fix these two problems. Also, I need to know what to tell him to do with these two wires. If someone has the time and patience to type that up so I can print it out. I would be grateful." to mean that detailed instrctions were needed and there was no experience here. I'm also sorry about the installer bashing lol. I've had one in my previous experience as well. Never let Best Buy car audio install anything in ur car btw but yeah, hope it all helped. Barstow huh? I dated a girl from there and she loved it lol, course she was kinda wierd. Anyways, good luck with the D.

Shaun

Wow. First off let me start by saying ouch and I'm sorry lol. Second, I think I can help. If you lived closer I could DEFINITELY help, cause I'd do it for you for free. This kinda stuff is like a hobby for me. But yeah, anyways, lets get started... First, your camera issue is linked to that purple cable with a white stripe that you mentioned later in the post that you said he left in the box. That cable plugs in to the brain where ever he mounted it and should run to the rear of the car. The other end of it at the rear of the car gets tapped into a lead of your reverse light. Left or right light it does not matter. The correct lead you need to tap into is the lead that changes voltage whenever you put the car into reverse (i.e. the hot wire) I have a GM so my wires for the reverse lights are black and green. Typically the negative will always be black so tap it into the other wire, whatever the color of it may be. You can also check this wire with a multimeter to curb any doubts if you are electronically inclined to do so. What this wire does and how it links to your camera problem is as follows: This wire tells the entire system when the vehicle is moving in reverse and not forward and also provides the switching input to the camera circuit so the "brain" knows to switch the camera on when you shift into reverse because your reverse lights will light thus activating this circuit. It has NOTHING to do with the bypass that he did and IF he did that bypass correctly, tell him to leave it the hell alone because that will not mess up what is happening to your camera. Second, as for the night / daytime problem... if you purchased / he charged you for a wiring harness along with the installation to make the hookup easier, then there's typically either an orange with a white stripe or just straight pure orange wire in the aftermarket harnesses that you connect to the Pioneer harness when you wire it up. The orange / orange and white wire, whichever you may have on your vehicle specific harness when you purchase it, is typically labeled ILL or illumination control wire. This is the lead that informs the unit whether the lighting is on or off and gives it direction on whether or not to use day or night mode. They didn't connect the GPS wire? Not quite sure why they wouldnt do that except for pure laziness I guess. Didn't connect the data cable either? I could maybe see that as there are two kinds of XM receivers for Pioneer head units and the other one has no data cable. Of course , it's just for music lol but if he installs a lot of those, he may not be used to looking for the data cable in the box. Both of your antennas are on the dash? Ehh, no big deal there I don't think. A lot of the installers are choosing to do that because it takes a little more work to route the cable around the vehicle to the outside. I have mine roof mounted, but my room mate mounted his like that and I've heard of several shops doing it. As long as the status display says things are great, I wouldn't worry. For the record, my room mate says he gets great reception. Don't know that I would print this entire artical out to hand it to him, lol. You could I guess, if you want him to know that all of us at AVIC-411 think he flunked install school. But let me continue lol... Thirdly, the pink wire you have in your photo is the VSS wire or Vehicle Speed Sensor wire. This wire connects also to the "brain" right next to the purple wire on the "brain". The other end of the wire should be tapped into the VSS or Vehicle Speed Sensor wire. You / he can find this wire by checking the wiring schematics of your vehicle in some sort of publication such as Chilton etc. or the internet or some sort of vehicle specific forum. They may even have a post of it on here somewhere if you search something like "Intrigue VSS". The VSS wire or Vehicle Speed Sensor wire goes from ur VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) on the car wherever it may be located, usually on the side of the transmission to the PCM or Powertrain Control Module (which is the vehicle computer under the hood) Some vehicles like GMs will have a wire coming up behind the dash radio that you can tap into because most GMs have a radio with noise dampening technology (they automatically control the radio volume to compensate for the outside road noise based on relative speed and the data for this is obtained from the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor wire like I mentioned above. You may or may not have that wire behind your dash depending on if your radio does the noise dampening thing. Even if it doesn't, there will ALWAYS be a VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) wire coming from the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) harness under the hood. You just have to find a publication or internet article to determine which color the wire is that you need to tap. A note for the pink wire and just and FYI for you so you are informed. The pink wire also helps ur GPS accuracy. GPS is an EXTREMELY weak signal because of it's wave length. So, when driving, if you enter a tunnel or under thick brush like tall trees down a narrow road or downtown in a big city with large buildings, especially with the dash mounted antennas, you will notice a significant decrease in antenna performance. That is the purpse of the pink wire. It gets continuous information from the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) on how fast the vehicle is going and does a little internal math and dynamics problems and correlates these results with the last known GPS fix that the antenna received. It then continues to plot your position on the map, in conjunction with the internal gyroscope (in the "brain") to give you very accurate position results even when satellite coverage is poor. This helps the information stay accurate in a tunnel or any of those other situations that I listed above. Hope these instructions were detailed enough. Forgive me as they were "too" detailed. I tried to do the best that I could and when writing instructions for these posts, I am never truly sure of the skill level of the reader so I don't want to leave things out. I'm not a professional but I'm an engineering student with a love / passion / hobby for electronics, especially mobile electronics so I enjoy doing things like this. I've installed three Pioneer AVIC units now so there's not much I haven't run across. Message me back and let me know if this helps and how it's going!

Hey guys!

Two quick questions for all of you. First, does anyone out there have or know of where I can get any cool Camaro backgrounds for the AVICs? Second, what does it take / how would I go about making a custom background and getting it uploaded into the unit. Thanks!

Shaun

Does anyone know where I can tap into a continuous power source from the rear of the car in a 97 camaro? Thanks! Shaun

I wish some people could just answer a question in a civil manner on one of these internet posts for a change instead of using it as a soap box for their opinions. To the ORIGINAL member that posted this reply... that channel is the default channel that EVERY Sirius radio goes to until the SID number has been activated and a phone call has been made to the 800 Sirius number. And for the record, I have an N4 with XM AND Sirius including XM Navtraffic and and additional receiver for XM Satellite Weather. Again, to the ORIGINAL individual of this post, I hope this helps! Shaun

Hey Guys,

I have a quick question. I have / had an AVIC - N2. Something happened where it won't power on or anything. I have since bought an N4 and I pulled the N2 head unit out of the car. Only thing is, when it died, it died with the screen up. Does anyone know of like an emergency retract button like on a disk drive like a pinhole or how to get the screen retracted without power or without being in the car any longer? I have arrangements to sell the head unit but shipping would be a lot easier if I could get the screen retracted. Let me know guys! Thanks! Shaun

Hey there! Does anyone out there know, or have an inside scoop on whether an N5 is being developed, when it will be released or what the features may or may not be. I'm deciding whether to purchase an N4 right now or wait til around Christmas which I have a sneaky suspicion there may be another one that appears around then. Electronics have a way of doing that. Somebody write and let me know. Thanks! Shaun