donmontalvo

I just replaced my 5000 with a 6100. Mitrax has to be installed on your iPhone.

Nice Don. Sounds like you got a good deal on the 6100. Can't argue with your math. I agree HD Radio is cooler than I thought. Being in LA doesn't hurt for digital channel selection either.

I updated unit and BT firmware, will update map after the fight.

The big upgrade for Pioneers this year is full Maestro support, it's a very cool system and more and more vehicles are being added to support it via iData.   I played with the JBL unit quite a bit at CES, and it is nice. It is aimed at the entry consumer market with a basic audio feature set (as shown at the show at least).  Dual pre-outs, no SXM or HD Radio support.  It is a nice clean GUI and fast for what it is.  One feature dual phone families with like is it allows you to hot swap between Carplay and Android Auto - no need to toggle it in a menu.  Pioneer has better support for that this year, but still requires a manual change, so better but not perfect

 

The JBL is as small a screen as you can go and still use AA as it's been explained to me.  6.5" is the cutoff, that is why you don't see it on more 6" models from Pioneer, Kenwood etc - those are usually 6.1 or 6.2" sizes. 

 

The Pioneers are still a way more advanced unit audio wise, interface wise etc.  And Kenwood is looking much much better this year too with their new GUI and screens.

 

Loosing mirror link is not a big deal in my market, support by phones was very poor and generally was more of a pain than a feature.. More the phone makers problem than Pioneer or anyone else IMO.

 

It's great to see more brands getting into the Carplay and interface market as that helps drive innovation and new features etc.

 

As for the capacitive touch screen - it's by far the coolest looking screen type IMO, but doesn't work with gloves well... I was very happy with the Pioneer Cap/Res screens we saw on the 4100-7100 last year and as far as I know they are the same this year for the NEX-X200 models.

This post is one reason I didn't hesitate to replace my AVIC-5000NEX with a new AVIC-6100NEX. No compelling reason to wait for the AVIC-6200NEX. And always a good reason to save a few hundred dollars.

Thanks for the info!

Firmware update completed, very, very pleased.

Don

Oops...yes, 6200...corrected.

 

LA area.

Well I visited a shop and told the owner the 6200 is out soon. He gave me the 6100 for $700.

I don't mind being one version behind, but being on the first version was annoying.

It was a clean swap from the 5000 > 6100, except I need another face plate since the unit is about 1/4 sunk.

Screen is superb, didn't expect it to be so responsive.

HD Radio is awesome! Traffic, at last! You guys are right, I probably won't use HDMI.

I already got an offer for $350 for the 5000. I'm downloading the firmware update (is at 1.01).

Brandy spanky new, never powered on - so I'll have updated maps in a few (well, only 3Q behind!).

Don

Don

As for the capacitive touch screen - it's by far the coolest looking screen type IMO, but doesn't work with gloves well... I was very happy with the Pioneer Cap/Res screens we saw on the 4100-7100 last year and as far as I know they are the same this year for the NEX-X200 models.

Firmware update 1.11 for the AVIC-5000NEX fixed the screen responsiveness (or lack thereof) issue.

You mean the 6200?  I love my 6000.  Don't use the HDMI input, but HD radio & traffic tuner work well.  Where in SoCal did you move?  I grew up in the San Fernando Valley.

Oops...yes, 6200...corrected.

LA area.

This has to hurt, considering you live in Philly, literally right in the backdoor to these affected update areas

I actually moved to Southern California in mid 2015 (donmontalvo.wordpress.com). I corrected my profile.

I'm contemplating getting a Pioneer AVIC-6200NEX, for the HDMI, HD Radio, and Traffic Tuner.

I figure I'll sell the Pioneer AVIC-5000NEX for $300, and I'll save $129.99 on the map upgrade...so I'll only be shelling out $200-300 (assuming PAC RP4-HD11 will work).

Decided after seeing how the other brands don't really offer any compelling reason to switch.

I still think Pioneer has a sucky business model, lazy development, and unfair map update policy.

Don

Yea, I like the ability to do online searches, but to be honest, not better than Siri.

I just want to select a contact and have AVIC navigation take me there.

But no go. Just more vaporware being released to pacify disgruntled customers

While they slipstream in updated models that don't bring Wireless CarPlay or anything else significant.

The AVIC-5000NEX is the last Pioneer car unit I will ever buy.

The JBL unit looks very interesting.

Yea, I'm looking to replace my AVIC-5000NEX with some other brand.

Not happy with Pioneer's laziness/aloofness, they don't get any more of my money.

Works ≠ compatible

Here is a link to the AVICSYNC app manual. Thought it might be helpful.

 

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/Car/AVICSYNC%20Operation%20Manual.pdf

Wow, AVICSYNC does not support iOS 9?!

Pioneer should fire the AVICSYNC team.

i tried iOS 9.2.1 beta 2 and i have same issue

Report it using the Feedback app what is installed.

 

to get past the ACCEPT screen on iphone you need to change your phones display setting from zoomed to standard

 

settings - display and brightness- view - (select standard)

 

you're welcome 

 

Unfortunately not much to gain by accepting. LOL

Can't get NEX to recognize my iOS contacts.

If you leave the app open on your phone, then it will sync automatically to the head unit once you go into the Nav.

I wish it did sync automagically, well, I wish it would sync my contacts, so I can pick one and have NEX take me to the address.

But AVICSYNC completely #fails, saying "No valid address found". Complete garbage.

If you want to help Apple flag/fix issues, jumping on the Public Beta is a good way to make things happen.

I have changed 3 original cables that i use always. This problem appeares also with my wife iPhone 5.

As you said, the only solution is installing a pubblic beta, buti don't love it.

I've been jumping on the iOS public betas for the past year or more. Very happy to get incremental updates before they are released to the public. The non-public beta gets the newest fixes, so public beta is better.

I restored my phone 3 times, this problem appear only when i connect it to pioneer unit. If i put CarPlay in restriction, no problem. I check my iPhone in Apple and the hardware is ok. The genius said that is a software problem that is cause by CarPlay and he said me to contact pioneer. Pioneer said that i must contact Apple and karashó.

Also jump on the iOS public beta, to get the latest incremental fixes, and to help Apple by giving feedback.

I didn't read all the posts on this thread but this last one caught my eye. When things get that bad, restore your iPhone to factory state and go from there.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201252

I am at a loss as well over the value of avicsync...[snip]...

I just want my iOS contacts to sync to AVICSYNC. I can live without the other stuff.

Yea, I'm not giving Pioneer any more of my money.

Meh, they just released the Q1 2015 update, and it is Q1 2016 in a few days!

Took a closer look, hoping maybe the initial Contacts sync needs to happen over Bluetooth. No luck. Nada. Zilch.

Even a fresh new contact, isn't seen by AVICSYNC. Internet searches work, I guess that's useful, since Apple Maps sucks on the open road.

I can't believe Pioneer management is so out of touch with their internal development group.

A feature is promised, and it only gains traction when a bunch of people complain.

Then the traction amounts to shipping a half baked product that doesn't do what it is advertised to do.

I guess incompetence is indeed marketable, thanks for showing us that, Pioneer.

I hope whoever you hired for $5 an hour helped a manager/director get that bonus check.

Hmmm...no wonder.

I honestly don't see the point. Apple Maps is good enough where I live, and provides live traffic, and live rerouting, and is completely free. I wish Carplay would get google maps or Waze, but till then, I'm pretty happy with Apple carplay. 

Apple Maps is awesome.

But its A-GPS that is the problem. Great for cities. Stinks on the open road.

Plus Apple Maps lacks some core features for navigating on the open road.

I love iOS and CarPlay, after all I help manage 10,000 Macs at a major multimedia company.

But, Apple Maps is pretty worthless outside of the city. Just my opinion.

Apple Maps is a LOT better if you pair it to a GPS unit such as:

http://gps.dualav.com/explore-by-product/xgps150a/

Uninstalled the app 2x now. Perhaps killing CarPlay might be a good idea. Will try later. Frustrating as hell though....

I'm going to go out on a limb and say, maybe Pioneer went cheap and hired cheap/incompetent developers?

How else can you explain the #1 core reason for needing AVICSYNC (tapping into iOS contacts) does not work?

Someone at Pioneer should be fired. And someone's manager.

Go to YouTube and search for "AVICSYNC" to find the how to videos.

Wow, very nice.

But AVICSYNC on iOS is clearly half baked.

Feature to use iOS contacts is greyed out.

What good is AVICSYNC if we can't use our iOS contacts?