lickrschlitz

I see your point since it AVIC-4000 does not have navi. I just moved from a 3 month old AVH unit to a AVIC-4000. Yes it's in the AVIC family! /\ Anyhoot /\ I went with the 4000 because first it was killer deal already loaded with Firmware for $400 new, I personally could care less about the pioneer navi. I use google maps with Mobile and works better then my friends 8000. I wanted it for the CarPlay. I really hope can use google maps on screen but if not ever because Apple maps sucks with no live traffic but doubt Apple will allow them to use. My question is if I wanted to g