Thanks for the replies...
Like I said I know I can find it at or near the same price on the net, but the local place is an "authorized" dealer so no problems with Pioneer. Is that worth the $?....I don't know.
As far as going out and playing with each...I have seen the Kenwood 8120 and messed around with it and really liked it. The Pioneer is no where local that I can find. That's why I asked the question on this forum..
All I have seen or heard was from the reviews on Crutchfield...which were not good....even from "idiots with sony's".
So still looking for more "advice" w