DennisOS2

I have a 3000GT VR4 with Tein coilovers. I also lowered the car 1 3/4 inches all around (for autocrossing). I do drive the car daily as you so the car occasionally hits the bump-stops, as well. All in all, bone jarring ride as it is designed for the track. Not a problem with the Z1. Z3's have the same basic design ........... just updates to firmware and software. Should not be a problem for you.

How many of you are using a treo 800W on your Z3? How do you like it? I'm asking because this is my setup and I'm really dissappointed.

 

I upgraded from a treo 650 to the 800W and quite frankly I'm a bit pissed off. Many of my options that i used before are not working (at least not yet). For instance, I cannot transfer more than one contact. (Although I couldn't do that before... that was 4 years ago) Before, I could start a call on the handset and as the Z3 booted up it would pick up the call hands free... Not any more. Also, I could (before) start a call on the Z3 and then grab it on the handset (if I wanted more privacy). Not so now. There are more examples that I cannot recall at the moment. I'll edit when I remember.

 

If you have the 800W. What is your take on the relationship with the Z3? Have you foud any workarounds? This is really working me up!!!!

I've used a 650P, 750W, and now TreoPro. Sound to the callers is the same for all three ............ they hear an annoying echo.

Transferring contacts is an issue with WinMobile (even 6.1). Single contact transfer is fine via BT. There is no option with the WinMobile Treos to transfer categories or the entry book. Not a good thing. I'd go back to the Palm Treo if my company supported them.

I've purchased an upgrade drive (Z3) and have transferred the Music partition over. All is working just fine.

I've found what appears to be the Phone book and Address book files in the original drive. Is it possible to copy those over as I have with the music files. Was there a change in file format between the Z1 (my original drive) and the Z3 drive? Are there other directories other than the obvious directories that must be copied over as well.

Thanks in advance

Besides via BT, is there a way (via CD/DVD??) to transfer the address book from a PC to the Z3? I've searched the manual and this site but no discussion of this anywhere. How about exporting Outlook categories to vcard format, burning to CD? Does the Z3 have the capability of reading them into the unit's phonebook?

I have to believe this has been covered, but haven't found through two nights of searching.

I just purchased an upgraded HD (Z3) for my Z1 unit. So I'll have the firmware and map upgrades. Additionally, it is my understanding I can copy over my music files.

What about my address, phone books, and destination history. Can personal data be transferred to the new HD? Would appreciate a link to instructions for this.

Thanks in advance.

Sure, just copy the partition from old to new drive

Jeeeez .............. so easy even I could do it

It seems for me the best solution for upgrading from Z1 --> Z3 is to buy a drive already configured. Although I don't have a ton of music on the Z1, there is still about 15-20 albums. If I purchase a Z3 imaged HD is there a way of transferring the music library from the Z1 HD to the Z3 HD?

I have all the unlocking SW, access to any OS, and ability to plug the drives into PCs. I just don't know if the transfer is straightforward or subject to some encoding scheme.

Thanks in advance!

Hey I was wondering if anyone has disassembled the OS for the Z2 into Assembly or IL code? I'm interested in trying some mods and I thought that if some has disassembled it already that it would save me a little time.

It is a version of Windows CE. If that helps.

Agreed, because of this forum and the support, and the instructions on how to bypass, and how to update, I am more likely to purchase another Pioneer unit in the future.

So, like, its really cool to use lots of add-ons and wires, and bypasses JUST to get the usability that a standard nav system should have ........... right?

You have to be kidding me. Are you brain dead?

I also appreciated this site .............. but NOT because of the inherent wonderfulness of the Z1/2. But because of the resourcefulness of the American public ....... their ingenuity!

Anyone want to disagree?

Nope, you're stuck OR you're gonna have to switch to the bypass that doesn't require a simple flip of a switch ever after you do it once

Man ............. I will limit all future Pioneer purchases. The factory units (including music storage) are so much more convenient. Last Pioneer I purchase.

Why wouldn't you just want to completely upgrade to the Z2 software You can still bypass, its just done differently

 

I'm OK with the Z1 in general (able to use flash bypass), but only want the new maps. Original Z1 map dB is so incomplete!

 

Can't only the map partition from the Z2 be copied to the Z1?? I realize this might mean the HDD removal. Is the 'updated' software for the Z2 required for the new maps? Also, I am aware that the new map upgrade from Pioneer does remove the bypass ability.

 

Is it possible for a work-around specific to just the updated maps like has been done for the entire Z1 ---> Z2 upgrade?

I was just trying not to have to do yet another bypass. The headlight flash works just fine!! Why do a 2 - 4 or 12 wire bypass when a simple flip of a switch works just fine.

So ......... transferring just maps won't work, or more importantly has been tried and most definitely won't work?

I'm OK with the Z1 in general (able to use flash bypass), but only want the new maps. Original Z1 map dB is so incomplete!

Can't only the map partition from the Z2 be copied to the Z1?? I realize this might mean the HDD removal. Is the 'updated' software for the Z2 required for the new maps? Also, I am aware that the new map upgrade from Pioneer does remove the bypass ability.

Is it possible for a work-around specific to just the updated maps like has been done for the entire Z1 ---> Z2 upgrade?

Not to sound too harsh, but...

 

My house is almost 15 years old, and NONE of the Pioneer, Eclipse, Alpine, or Tom Tom databases have it listed. Most will show where it is supposed to be. The navigation systems that are currently available from most manufacurers are supposed to be used as a GUIDE, not the end-all be-all.

 

Most people use their nav units to locate businesses, entertainment, gas, etc. and not individual houses. I can only imagine how big the database would be if it included all they do now PLUS every single house currently standing right now. Then you have an event like Katrina that wipes out entire TOWNS, and oops Pioneer needs to send out an update disk to everyone that has purchased a nav unit back to the old AVIC-80DVD.

 

The AVIC-Z1 is a great unit (even with it's flaws) so I would suggest if you are not happy with the product after a year of use, begin shopping for a replacement, and maybe even ask the salesperson to show you your house is in the database for the unit you are interested in. If not, maybe you should read the warning message that comes up when you turn the unit on.

 

I'll get off my soapbox now...

Let me get on my soapbox ............... you're full of crap!

My wife's 2006 Accord nav had our 12yo house in its dB. My Z1 purchased 6months later did not. SO ...... you're saying you accept 12 - 15 year old maps, shoddy designs? If I had wanted a great sound system I wouldn't have purchased a Z1. I wanted a nav system that had an OK sound system. I received a crippled nav system with really old maps and the ability to save ONLY CDs to the HDD (which is OK ..... but not the primary function I was looking for in a NAV system).

Another point ..... the Accord nav functions are accessible ALL THE TIME. You want to type in an address on the fly, you can. None of this absolutely ridiculous removal of the HDD, imaging of the drive, 2 wire bypasses, switches, and circuit boards. Crazy.

But I have to admit ...... I've found the secret way to make three additional hidden buttons functional on the unit. You park the car in a dark garage, connect an external battery directly to the unit, turn the key on and off four times, while you open and close the trunk-lid, and you get the buttons. B1 changes the clock font color; B2 allow you to extend the display time of the warning screens; B3 disables, permanently, all other buttons. There is a HDD image coming that will eliminate you having to open and close the trunk-lid to get the buttons ...... only $49.95.

Stop harassing posters to this forum and get on the back of Pioneer. There IS no excuse for what they've done to cripple these units.

i love when people purchase navigation to find out how to get to places they go everyday

j/k

 

AND ALSO LETS BE REAL PEOPLE IT ALSO LOOKS NICE IN OUR RIDES

 

C'mon, now, boys ......... isn't past your bedtime? Mommy is going to spank you. Now, you go on and play in your sandbox like nice little boys and let the grown-ups alone. But you'll be invited back when you have your license or have more than two neurons firing simultaneously. Now, go-on ...... shooo.

 

 

Nice.

Hey ...... and ScubaSteve ........... if they come back, you make sure they at least had their Mommy put their big-boy pants on them.

i love when people purchase navigation to find out how to get to places they go everyday

j/k

AND ALSO LETS BE REAL PEOPLE IT ALSO LOOKS NICE IN OUR RIDES

C'mon, now, boys ......... isn't past your bedtime? Mommy is going to spank you. Now, you go on and play in your sandbox like nice little boys and let the grown-ups alone. But you'll be invited back when you have your license or have more than two neurons firing simultaneously. Now, go-on ...... shooo.

As much as I hate my Z1, I have to wonder why you need to use navigation to a place that you already know how to get to in the first place. There isn't one navigation piece of equipment out there that can know all the varibles that you know like traffic situations, construction, ect. I do like my Garmin way better though. But what do you expect from a company that damn near invented the GPS?

I my situations I knew the general areas but not the best, shortest, fastest way once missing a turn-off. Part of the reason for a nav is to allow you NOT to have to backtrack in a situation like that.

Also, I think the others using the systems on known routes were testing the systems. The grades weren't passing, it would seem!

I'm in too. I've had the Z1 for well over a year. Some trips were routed properly. And a few that were off were my fault because in the settings I had specified 'only freeways' which made it try to force me to the closest freeway instead of surface streets. Once I reset route setting it did better, but the routes are still not always calculated properly.

Good luck with the Palms.

 

I had a 650 Treo run smooth for 3 months, then my unit would disconnect and connect randomly. Had the phone replaced and within 2-3 weeks of using the replacement, BAM, the Avic Z1 would disconnect and connect.

 

Same thing happend with my Nokia 6103 and now my Blackberry Pearl. Both phones also worked problem free with the Avic Bluetooth, then BAM...3 months latter same disconnect connection thing.

 

This Avic needs to go in to be replaced. Pioneer Canada insists there is nothing wrong with it. I beg to differ.

Actually I figures out my problem with connecting with BT. I had to REGISTER the new phone with the Z1. Once I did that it has been working flawlessly with the Palm 750 ........... no dropped connections. For some reason it does take about a minute or so longer for the handshake than the 650, but then its fine. Boy, I feel dumb. At least its working.

May be this is a celebration too early - only time will tell.

 

Just got the Treo 750 (WM5 with Bluetooth 1.2) and was very nervous that if I get the same bluetooth connection - it will be a must return! Guess what - I made multiple calls using the Z1, one of them lasting more than 15mins and all calls stayed intact. I will post more details later after more calls over multiple days.

 

cheers

Phal

You posted your success a while back. Still happily BT'ing along?? I just bought a 750 and also have a Z1. With my 650 I had no problems connecting and maintaining long calls through BT. However, I have not been able to get the 750 to connect at all. What was your initial experience. Anything special that had to be done to affect the connections? Thanks for any help!

Dennis

Have had two Treos: 650 and now a 750 (WM5.1). The 650 (PalmOS) connected without a hitch and the connection was stable ...... no dropped connection. The 750 I've just about given up on. Has never connected to the Z1. No changes to the Z1 from the 650 to the 750.

Won't give up the Treo, but would certainly like to get the BT working. Is there any little pearl someone can provide to help us out?

*Sigh* seems like no one keeps these cars stock. That is why I am keeping my VR4 dead bone stock. It will be worth tons, since it will be the only nonmodified 3000GT in the world (if you forget the fact that it has 108k miles )

Does that mean you didn't install a Z1? Cause it wouldn't be stock then

I like driving it way too much to not try to improve it. Its quieter, faster, lighter, handles better, and now has a better sound system and nav system. It gets better all the time! All depends what you're looking for.

As many improvements that could have been made to the display layout? Improvements to functionality (maintenance menu)? And all they did was update the maps? No wonder its cheaper than the Z1.

Has anyone put together a side-by-side comparison of the Z1 vs Z2? Doesn't seem like an upgrade to the Z2 software will bring that much day-to-day improvement in the Z1.

When I put my Z1 in my 97 VR4 I put all new Focals, pioneer amp and Dynamatted/Dynaliner'ed every square inch of the interior. Big difference. Can you spell t o m b ? Then switched from the Borla to a Tanabe SM Hyper cat-back. Very nice ........ and even more quite.

 

Dennis

 

I thought that stuff only reduced noise from going outside?

It is barrier material, so it in theory would keep sound in. But the purpose is to keep exterior noise out. And it does. Only issue with the VR4 is the road noise from the low profile tires and the generally stiffer suspension components transmitting that road noise. Even so, this car is quiet now.

I'm not a fanatic about music in the car, but the quality of the Z1 is sufficient with these speakers that it needed to be more quite to fully appreciate the sound. Well worth it if you're going to keep the car, which I am.

Dennis

When I put my Z1 in my 97 VR4 I put all new Focals, pioneer amp and Dynamatted/Dynaliner'ed every square inch of the interior. Big difference. Can you spell t o m b ? Then switched from the Borla to a Tanabe SM Hyper cat-back. Very nice ........ and even more quite.

Dennis