tripper_1966

I wouldn't waste time with Teleatlas updates that have more errors.

I updated our Avic by purchasing a preloaded hard drive with the updates. Wonderfull concept and only cost $100.00. But I wouldn't pay $1.00 for the Teleatlas Map updates that Pioneer subscribes to. The maps go backwards in updates with more errors.

That's nice they are available.

So was the 2007 update that had about 20% errors in maping compared to the installed data on the Avic in 2006.

Why pay for something that has more errors.

They should be free until Teleatlas gets their data at least 95% correct

what's all the big hype for a money grab?

The 2007 Map update was a complete waste of money. The Teleatlas data was more accurate in the installed data that comes with the unit.

I won't waste a dime on the new update.

We did the 2007 map update and Teleatlas is backwards - there are SO MANY errors that DID NOT exist with the original map data that was installed with the unit.

We contacted Teleatlas about all the errors that didn't exisit prior to the upgrade and they asked to send in information about the errors. There is just TOO much to deal with this. It's just a money grab!

Did the update with the new maps and noticed the unit behave differently... route I used to take, the Avic now takes me on a longer distance route... have turned the autolearn on... drove the same route 4 times and still the unit takes gives me directions that are out of the way...adding about 20 minutes to an already 15 minute trip and more mileage.

What's with this?

Our unit was sent in for warranty repair to Pioneer couple of months ago. It came back indicating it needed a firmware upgrade. When I look at the verison it is 1.000000.

Looking at their link for upgrading at :

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v ... 48,00.html

It seems they didn't do anything on warranty.

Has anyone performed the firmware upgrade on their own, by downloading from the Pioneer website??

Thanks. I've seen that and that's why I'm asking if the switch our installers put in does the same thing or not? I can't find any mention of that in the link. Anyone??

When we had our Avic Z1 installed, the installers told me they placed a hidden switch in place with the parking break connection. I think the switch is grounded so when the switch is on, the Avic thinks the parking break is on. We have most functionallity while driving, although the speed sensor in the unit still "greys out" some screen button while we are moving.

Does this switch do what the bypass does? or does the actual bypass flash do more? Can someone explain the difference and will the current switch affect when I upgrade my unit with the new map data etc. (the most recent update out there?)

Thanks

we did the factory full reset as well. The phones would work fine for a while... then the same thing... bam!

Where do you get the software update for the 8100 Pearl?

We had the same problem with our first phone... worked perfectly for 2 months... then reset the entire AVIC and worked fine for about 3-4 weeks then again the connection/disconnecting. We tried a 2nd phone that is listed as compatible did almost the exact same thing there...

Then we purchased the BB Pearl 8100... worked fine no hitches for about 4 weeks, then the same crap. Finally sent the unit in to Pioneer for repair... firmware update was done and it did NOTHING.

Good Luck as I suspect there is something more happening here that Pioneer is not even aware about.

Even when I try to delete the device on the phone, and rematch it to the AVIC, there are times where the phone displays that there was no device found.

Yeah, tons of features... perhaps too many that the unit's microprocessor can't keep up and many inconsistencies and flaws have come out. We finally sent our unit in for repair. Problems with Bluetooth, Navigation, and freezing. The dealer we purchased the unit from said they have never seen the number of repairs on the unit than any other car units they have sold.

several things... that have already been posted.

Simply poor engineering and quality control before deployment.

Have heard through the dealer we purchased the unit from, that the AVIC has had LOTS of problems.

Not impressed with a so called Cadillac product that seems more like a tractor!

My unit is finally in for repair.

Hopefully it will be fixed or re-engineered before deployment.

My phone worked no problem for the 1st 2 months... then I had to connect on it's own using the manual connect in the blackberry. Then at times my phone would indicate no devices found.

Finally my avic Z1 has gone in for repair! I hope this all works out once I get it back! This is the third compatible phone that my Avic seems to have bluetooth issues with.

Good luck with the Palms.

I had a 650 Treo run smooth for 3 months, then my unit would disconnect and connect randomly. Had the phone replaced and within 2-3 weeks of using the replacement, BAM, the Avic Z1 would disconnect and connect.

Same thing happend with my Nokia 6103 and now my Blackberry Pearl. Both phones also worked problem free with the Avic Bluetooth, then BAM...3 months latter same disconnect connection thing.

This Avic needs to go in to be replaced. Pioneer Canada insists there is nothing wrong with it. I beg to differ.

Well then why don't you get your mommy and daddy to pay for everyones?

I was sold on the Avic Z1 because of its features.

The unit is the biggest waste of money I have spent. I would never pay $500 for such a "Cadillac" product they claim this unit to be.

My unit worked problem free for 2-3 months, then all of a sudden the bluetooth on the AVIC disconnects on its own. I've watched the unit for months now as to when it does certain things and doesn't...like the auto learn feature... doesn't always work.

The maps are innodated although they claim 2005 data...it is inaccurate.

Pioneer Canada has an attitude that they think the problem is the bluetooth and phone, when all three phones we have tried with the unit have worked problem free for 2-3 months...then the same crap happens. So they won't take the unit in for repair. BTW - the same phones are listed as compatible on this forum.

I agree, they need their heads smacked for ripping people off. Pioneer has a HISTORY of this... and there's enough out there to make them open their eyes.

For all you spoiled brats out there that like your unit and have a beef with comments from people who earn their money and complaining about the Avic Z1, get a life and start paying for your own instead of mom and dad.

I just spoke with Pioneer and their parts department. The told me the CNDV-700HD will be available as order through dealers only come Sept 1.

and yeah, if your cell signal is dropping, then yes you would disconnect from bluetooth

 

oh, and if you dont like my language, TOUGH SHIT!

Nope, the signal strength is just fine on the phone. I've had this happen too many times, that I seem to be concentrating on understanding what's going on with the AVIC!

Your language must mean you are a spoiled rotten immature brat!

Something is strange then because it only seems to disconnect/connect as I described... and it sure is an inconvenience. Doesn't make sense as the units/had no problems together for 4 months. Go figure!

Well I think your language first of all is uncalled for and perhaps go back and read all the posts on this thread I've written.

So are you telling me now that my cell provider is responsible for the Bluetooth disconnecting? Rediculous!

Oh, so the Bluetooth, Voice Command, AV and Guidance are all run with separate microprocessors and programming? I find that hard to believe. It's one function unit with a core to run all the above. Are there schematics anywhere that indicate separate microprocessors or a programming sheets that indicate separate programming?

I just had a private message and there are others whom have have no problems with the Avic and 8100 pearl.

The AVIC has learning mode and when you enter areas that are not travelled regularily, the unit does something inside for tracking. So my guess is my unit perhaps can't keep up?

Something tells me it's the programming or the microprocessor can't keep up.

The BB Pearl (8100) is listed as fully compatible on this forum for the Bluetooth list.

so what's with the lunch bucket car?

Again I traveled outside of my regular area with the Avic and the Bluetooth continued to connect and dissconnect. As soon as I was in my regular driving area (home town)... the unit stayed connected!

It's becoming evident there is something wrong with this unit. All the results of its performance/operation just proves it. Perhaps their microprocessor just can't keep up when the Avic goes into learn mode?