MattsSS

I've got 2.006 installed and noticed no real difference from the 2.0. However, my car has not been delivered yet so it's still sitting in its box in the mean time other than when I play with menus (I had one a while back with my old car for a short time but returned it when 2.0 wouldn't install).

I'm personally not interested in test mode as 3.0 sounds like it will do everything I care to, and I want to keep my warranty unquestionable, so I haven’t looked into it. But if it's something easy to check on the device like a startup sequence I could look into it for you.

Has anyone else installed 2.006 to check for test mode? I doubt they removed it as it's just a very minor update, but not like its impossible. Don't mind checking for you if someone else hasn't already.

Indeed, thanks for the video iaf_22! Sorry for taking up room in your thread.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

Makes you wonder why someone wouldnt reply to you...

 

Enjoy

 

Again Noobs like you opening their mouths when they shoudn't need to shut the f*** up. I've dealt with plenty of important people on here and have been nothing but cordial as well as helped people out and never had any one talking crap to me. You couldnt just realize you shouldnt have opened your mouth and left it alone. You had to reply and continue right. Its people like you that important people like CMH and Specter left cause he didnt want to deal with the crap your giving me now. Please dont say anything else and leave me alone.

Sorry, I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum. If you didn’t have to get the last word in (while name-calling & cursing at that) you would have already ended it by simply not replying. Or maybe reply in a less offensive manner instead of trying to provoke a response (while claiming to not want one). I'm not the one upset here, and after your jump to the gun could care less if you are.

Those guys were already gone (or planned on leaving), and from what I've read mostly because of people trying to mod, breaking their gear, and blaming / getting mad at them. What that has to do with the couple of us that replied that don't feel like listening to your whining is beyond me. I seriously doubt that either of them was whining in public, called on it, and quit because of it. If you didn’t want everyone else reading your comments to iaf_22 and replying to them, then keep it to PM.

All this for a French / Europe update for someone in NY...

It's really a shame this is the norm on this board apparently. There certainly have been good people that have left. Your tenure or acquaintance to them should not excuse your attitude though. Dealing with important people does not make you one, and I'm glad to hear you managed to be cordial to them at least. But if blaming others that weren’t even around to have anything to do with it makes you feel better, I'm sure it was all my fault. Sleep tight.

Thanks for proving my point.

Makes you wonder why someone wouldnt reply to you...

Enjoy

How come you wont anser us about sharing the files? We would like to know if we can pay you to share your update with us if there is not any kind of code.

 

 

Probably because you wrote this on the forum instead of a message and he can be legalally prosecuted if he does.

 

Umm No! I actually pmed him and didnt receive a reply back after he has posted several times and was just curious if he even still had the files. Thanks for your input anyway but the question was directed toward him not you!

Maybe he just doent want to do something illegal regardless then? And you're the one getting upset, nice...

I'm sure the French / Europe maps would do you a lot of good in NY as well...

Thanks to basstoy for finding the actual update on the Pioneer site in his thread here

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=25317

Here is the link to it

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/Navigation/Free+Firmware+Update+2.006+for+AVIC+F-Series+In-Dash+Models

The rep I spoke to was close, it's aparently 2.006 not 2.16

Does not look like it does much though, the only language on the site as to what it does is as follows.

This firmware update (version 2.006) contains important performance improvements relating to Automatic Time Correction, updated XM channel icon graphics, and enhanced reliability during firmware update process.

Anyone using the ND-G500 amplifier (from/with the F500BT) on their stock factory amplified system (Bose, Infinity, Boston Acoustics)?

I called Pioneer today looking for a suggestion on how to intigrate it with a Boston Acoustics factory amplified system and the tech support rep said as long as it is properly installed it should be no problem. They have several people using them in factory amplified systems like Bose & Infinity.

Usually putting one amp in front of another is a big no-no, but maybe these OEM amps have high level inputs anyway??

Anyone on here doing this or try it? I'd really like to have it automatically pick up on nav & calls without having to switch inputs, but dont want to fry the factory amp.

I'll be calling BA tech support tomorrow to see what they say as well, just wondering if anyone here is already doing it.

*Edited, see below post*

First of all, I didn’t post this in the 3.0 thread because it would just get lost in all the BS posts that do no good, and didn’t need another 10 pages of "OMG read the thread it was posted on page 21 post # 300 blah blah blah insert derogatory comment".

So, let’s try to learn from that and NOT post a bunch of useless BS...

I just got off the phone with pioneer tech support; I was calling about wiring my F500, but asked about 3.0 since I had him on the phone.

He stated 3.0 will not be available as a no map, non-IGO software only free update, only as the full blown maps + IGO 8.3 paid update. When I mentioned that's what we had heard as well, but someone claimed a Pioneer rep told them there would be one he clarified that he had JUST taken the training on it 2 days ago, and they said there would not be a free-be only version. He then said, but the other rep could have been talking about the 2.16 update (number might be slightly off, don’t shoot me I'm just the messenger) which will be a free update. Upon further clarification he stated that 2.16 will not be a total remap like the 3.0 will, but it specifically will be for bug fixes in the current 2.0. They told him it would be out around the same time as 3.0, which they only said would be in "July".

That's all the info there is, there was no clarification as to what would be fixed in 2.16 (it's not done yet) but it will be a free bug fix, assuming the guy I talked to correctly remembered what he was told in training 2 days ago.

There was a single post somewhere around here recently that claimed a Pioneer rep stated that a 3.0 update would be available without maps and without the IGO 8.3 at no charge, but I have no idea how accurate that is. The rep could have been clueless, or the guy posting could have misunderstood, who knows.

Do they make them with headphone plugs instead of RCA's by any chance?

Too much inbetween to go from unit -> converter -> amp -> converter -> cable -> car input (mine is not on head unit )-> factory stereo

So much for this being an easy solution to adding nav to a new car that does not offer it with a VERY integrated head unit (controlls features of car, stereo controlls in with air controlls).

Might have to look more into what can be done to use the amp on a factory amplified stereo but that doesnt sound like fun either as the factory amp is in the trunk.

Best to just wait till I get the car at this point I suppose, who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and volume wont be so low for me.

Do you have the volume turned up all the way, it's a pain but I've heard you have to do it every time you get in.

I know it's low, but hoping cranking the volume will do the trick, my car is still on order so wont know for a while still If that's not enough, let me know what you find for a headphone jack amp, didnt even think to look if they exist! Cant use the Pioneer amp like I hoped as the stereo will be factory amplified, and it has like 9 speakers anyway... So much for that idea, wish I could intigrate it a little more into the factory setup, but guess that just wont be happening.

So much for just grounding the e-brake cable...

Anyone else have any other suggestions outside of the software mod?

And did you loose any GPS functonality while moving?

I wouldn't think the software hack should be necessary with just the power plugged directly into the unit, but maybe it is.

If you do use the mount with the intigrated cable and ground the e-brake cable would you still need the software hack?

From a quick search online looks like it does have the standard headphone audio out jack, but does not say anything about iPod connectivity or back up camera, I'm guessing it does not have those?

Just curious what you paid for the Garmin, I recently bought the F500BT so I paid a lot less for it than you did, but considering maybe the Garmin for the wife's car since hers does not have the headphone jack in.

You were using only the power cable directly to the unit (not going through the mount) and it would not work? That is odd.

I saw this a while back and thought about it, but decided I'd rather plug it in once (and charge it while doing so) and use the voice command on the unit rather than have to mess with the phone every time I want to do something different with it.

Thank you very much for verifying.

Will it work without the software hack as well? Or is the software side of things required on the F500BT?

If you don't use the mount cable & just plug power directly into the unit & use an audio out cable is a bypass necessary at all?

I'm so glad I spend time reading all the useful posts like these instead of the boring ones like the update being only $70 for it's introductary sale price.

This thread would probably be 3 pages of useful info if you took out all of the BS and repeating everything 10x.

Is there going to be an aftermarket for the 3.0 upgrade? Will avic owners be able to sell each other their 3.0 SD cards?

As has been previously stated, the cards will have a specific key, likely partially generated based off of your units serial number. So they likely will only be able to be used on your device & not shared unless someone can hack / crack them (which wont be known until they are released).

Is the hardware bypass for the F500BT simply grounding the e-brake cable?

The cabeling for the F500BT is not the same as the F series head units, so you can't do the wire swap found in the other main F series bypass thread.

I don't want to rely on the software bypass as I plan to upgrade to 3.0 when it is available soon, and I think 3.0 would provide most of the features I want without having to hack the unit. I would just like to be able to fully use GPS while moving, and have video available for my passenger.

Thank you!

I know this is dumb question but does anyone know what processor in the F-series? The new X, Z have 600Mhz processors.

 

The processor in the F-series is a 600MHz SiRF Titan dual-core ARM11. Same one used in other PNAs like the HP iPaq 310 series. ARM1136EJ1 core, ARM V6 instruction set.

 

Summary of the proc's at http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a11gst

Thanks... so in my opinion the X and the F series are the same units inside, the only difference is where they placed the Pioneer logo and new knob. Just a marketing ploy to make people forget all the issues of the F-series had.

I read on here somewhere that the X will have A2DP capability, if that is true then it would have to have different BT than the current Parrot hardware in the F (also according to what I've read on here).

From what I have read elsewhere on here, the F series Parrot BT hardware lacks the capability of A2DP.

The iPhone has always had the capability, it was just never programed (on Apple's end) to be usable.

So while Apple's SW update fixed the iPhone, Pioneer's (funny how they're both 3.0 now eh? ) will not give the F series A2DP streaming... According to multiple posts on various forums I've read.

I don't think Pioneer will be charging for the firmware update. I think if you want the map updates, you will have to pay and those come with the firmware update, but that doesn't mean that you won't be able to download just the firmware once it is released. I think people are assuming too much. Just my nickels worth .

I didn't see on the Pioneer page or in any thread here, I would assume the iGo doesn't get upgraded to 8.3?

 

As was said many times here, track-up in 2D and road signs = iGO 8.3/

 

Also, this is why you need new maps, maps are not compatible between 8.0 and 8.3

I dont know if the Australia equipment came with the rebate in the box or not.

Mine (USA) certainly did not include any kind of a rebate with it, and I have not seen anything on the Pioneer US site about a rebate for it either.

It may just be an offer for Australia at this point, but certainly would be appreciated here for people that have recently purchased.

Someone posted in another thread that in Australia if you purchased between Nov 2008 - June (July?) 09 you got a mail in rebate to get the update for free. Considering my F500BT was delivered literally 2 days ago, that would certainly be a nice option, especially since thier list price of $130 is not that much less than I paid for the entire unit, with iPhone cable and amplifier...