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Well I tried everything I could think of still no luck, even borrowed a friends SD card which had the WinCE files on it that he used and no luck so I'm pulling the deck and sending it in.

Does anyone know if the x910BT uses the same wiring harness as the F90BT? If so I'm just going to go buy one of them while this one's away for warranty repair.

Tried different sources as well as different versions. I haven't even made it to the part of the flash disk so that's not of concern at the moment. I was originally just using version 2.0 files but someone in another thread suggested that I use the 3.0 files and upgrade at the same time.

So in summary I have used 2 sets of version 2.0 files (2 different sources) and 1 set of version 3.0 files all with no success.

I don't think it's the files as many people have downloaded them and used them from the same source. I even tried downloading multiple times as well as unzipping multiple times AND doing both of those on another computer with no luck so there is something royally screwed with the deck or I'm still not doing something right.

I'll try and post a video tomorrow of what im doing exactly and whats happening which might help clear the air as the what my problem is.

If anyone has any other suggestions or solutions it would be great to hear

Did you try the four finger salute? Have the SD card with the WINCE files on it. Then turn on the car, press and hold the Menu, Map, Eject & Reset button at the same time for about 15 seconds. Release Reset, wait a few seconds, then release the others. I believe that is a hard reboot. When I did that with mine, it came up okay.

 

Also, how big is the SD card you are using, and what brand is it?

Yup 4 finger salute, everything according to the instructions, it just stalls at the 100% read progress.

Tried 3 SD Cards, can't remember the 3rd one but the other 2 are a 2gb and a 4gb both Kingston brands.

Tried the same thing over 20 times, different computers, different ways of formatting cards, everything i could think of haha.

This is the first time I'm ever touching the deck aside from the 2.006 update and a background change.

Aside from that the unit has been running for over a year flawlessly this just happened without any warning or without doing anything. Last thing I remember doing on it was switching to AM radio to hear a traffic report and turning the car off, on the next start this begun.

very frustrating indeed

So I noticed that a few people had the problem I am having and there has been no solution posted so I would like to request it again.

When updating the WinCE files, my read progress reaches 100% and nothing happens after that.

I have tried the procedure over 20 times and waited different lenghts of time yet still no luck.

Does anybody know how to get past that damn step?

I can't get into testmode either because I can't update the WinCE files.

I have tried different wince files, different sd cards, different computers to copy files on the sd cards, basically everything but it just keeps getting stuck at that point.

Any help would be greatly appreciated since the only option would be to send this unit away to pioneer which I really don't want to do.

Yes, you should try the 3.0 WinCE files. If you went through the update(format) option, you wiped your My flash disk, and you need to restore it from a "backup". I am not sure what you mean by accidentally pushing option 1, because that is what you wanted to do in your step 7. "7. Select Update using SD/USB (format) option. This will format your FlashDisk removing any corrupted files on there that prevent the unit from loading." If you go through that step you no longer have a working unit and you need to complete the process by reinstalling all the data.

 

I suggest that you follow this guide viewtopic.php?f=34&t=25817 and try to upgrade to 3.0 software/maps. You can do the whole upgrade without using the on-screen keyboard (as long as your touch panel is calibrated and/or working). Use Total Commander to copy the data from your SD card to "My Flash Disk".

K tried the 3.0 files and same deal, It won't go past the 100% progress screen, I let it sit for 5 minutes other times 30 minutes nothing. I think I have tried it atleast 20 times if not more.

As for accidently pushing option 1 (the sd/mmc update option), technically option 0 is the correct one with the format in brackets.

I followed the guide in that link also noticed a few people with the same issue I was having although there was no response to the problems posted. One guy said he tried multiple times and on the 6th try it worked but the others never got an answer and that means I don't have one either.

I find it extremely difficult to believe that the files are wrong or curropt, or that my multiple SD cards are damaged in some way that it would cause this problem. As stated in that guide it should take within 2-3 minutes and after trying 20 times with different time frames on each I have no idea what I can do from here since this is the first step to getting anything else done.

Here is exactly what I am doing:

1) turning on car

2) pressing all four buttons on unit, this includes reset

3) I don't get a pop from my speakers but this could be due to me turning down the volume to zero last time i used it, so i'm holding the reset button for 5 seconds

4) after release of reset button im still holding the other 3 buttons (menu/map/eject)

5) once blue screen comes up i am releasing all 3

6) then i enter service code (up,up,down,menuu,left,right)

7) i then select update wince option

I push in the sd card into the slot

9) I select wince by sd/mmc (format) option

10) I wait, read progress creeps up to 100% and this is where i get stuck, nothing happens after it reaches 100%

I'm using the files directly off the pioneer site, the Avic-F90BT Firm Update (filename:avic_f-series_firmware_update_2.006000.zip)

Tried unzipping it multiple times, tried a redownload, tried loading it off different computers, tried 2 different sd cards.

Seems to be that the deck is messed.

Would I be able to load the version 3.0 wince files on or does it have to be for the current version?

Also I recall the very first time i did this I accidently clicked on the wince update (option number 1 in the last menu where you select wince update via sd (format) option) Could this have caused all this trouble?

When the WinCE update (Format) only says "Reading 100%" or whatever, there is something wrong with your data on the SD-card you are using. I get this sometimes with SD-cards that I have played around with a little, and the problem does not happen when I make a fresh SD-card with the files needed.

 

To get to the blue screen, just hold down menu map and eject buttons and then press and release reset, when the blue screen appears you can let go of the three buttons. I push the three buttons with my left thumb then use a pointy object to push and release the reset button.

 

When you are trying to update WinCE, it is supposed to READ the WinCE data on the card, counting upwards in 5% increments (taking about 20 seconds), then WRITE the WinCE data counting upwards in 5% increments (taking almost a minute?). After that, wait 10 seconds or so until it says "OK to reset unit". If you see all this, then your WinCE update is a success.

Awesome thanks for info, I'm going to try a fresh format off the 2 sd-cards that I have tried and see if I can get past that step. If I can it's on to the next challenge haha.

edit: just tried both sd cards again after doing a full fat32 format on both and neither of them work, still hangs at 100% read...now what?

A few things to clear up in this thread along with a problem I am having.

First off those people that are having trouble getting their screen to stay on for more than 20-30 seconds. You have to hold down the reset button along with the menu/map/eject button. I had a hard time with this until I tried the reset button and the screen finally stayed on.

So just so it's clean and clear:

1) Hold all buttons down (map/menu/eject + reset)

2) start car or get deck to turn on via accessory mode (2 turns of the key)

3) wait 5 seconds then release reset key

4) wait another couple seconds and release eject key

5) release menu/map keys and the blue screen should be there at this time

6) carry on doing what you want to do.

NOW for my problem, I get stuck loading the files on.

After doing these steps:

6. Insert into the unit the SD card that has WINCEIMG.bin and WINCEIMG.cks on it (STEP 2)

7. Select Update using SD/USB (format) option. This will format your FlashDisk removing any corrupted files on there that prevent the unit from loading.

8. Wait for the update to finish. When the prompt says to restart your unit, take out the SD, put in the testmode SD card and restart.

After selecting the update button, the bottom shows the read percentage which reaches 100%. After that nothing happens I don't get a restart prompt or anything it just keeps showing reading 100%.

How long does this part take? Mines been on for 15 minutes now (3rd attempt) and it's still stuck on that