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17 hours ago, bonee said:
Wrong section!
Moved to Nex subforum
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1 hour ago, Ozzzzy said:
My question, is there an actual firmware update for this head unit for everything including the maps?
2017 was the last map update for the Z-1xx-BT and X9xx-BT.
I'm not sure what link you want but here's Pioneer US/CA firmware & maps:
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7 hours ago, caddyladdy said:
Is there someone who has this working on a f980dab, and most importend, how
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No. This is not compatible. This firmware is for much older units.
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1 hour ago, Redrobbo said:
Not sure if you have to follow this procedure every time the battery is disconnected or whether the password part of it has now been disabled ?
It is permanent unless another password gets set. Some original owners swear that they got locked out and never set-up a password. So keep the files in case you need them again.
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Before doing anything major I'd try switching to the backup firmware. The AVIC headunits have to firmware copies. So whenever the firmware is updated, the older one is preserved. The one that gets executed at boot time is controlled by whether PRG.FLG exists. You can force it to use the backup version using that file.
Boot into (Super)Testmode. Navigate to the USER directory. If a file named PRG.FLG exists, delete it. (it is just an empty file).
If PRG.FLG doesn't exist, add one by creating an empty file on your PC, copy it to the TestMode SD, then boot into TestMode and copy PRG.FLG from the SD to USER. If all that sounds complicated to you, here is a script that will add PRG.FLG for you. Just download and unzip PRG-FLG-Script, copy the 3 files to a smallish SD (less than 8GB) and insert it into your headunit. It should reboot into Testmode and run the script. If it doesn't, you may need to cycle the power on the headunit.
However, you didn't say what caused this problem. I hope you didn't cause the problem yourself by installing Condi's Hackmode or some other hack. If so, you might of corrupted the firmware beyond repair - or need a complete refresh.
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On 5/8/2022 at 2:57 PM, Dave Larsen said:
would be happy to share this with you or if you know anybody that's having issues contact me and I will tell you how it's done so easy lol.
If it's so easy, why not just post the method here so everyone can benefit? I can think of one reason, but since there's already posted some free fixes, there's not much profit to be had.
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18 hours ago, Firas said:
hi,
the file is no longer available, could you please share it again?
Thanks
First, its not clear what file you are referring to. Mine, or the pionara post immediately above yours. Regardless, the files are still available, but you must be registered to download files hosted on avic411. Since you are now registered, try again.
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4 hours ago, DBock said:
Same thing with my wife's iPhone.
Bluetooth issues have been known to happen after the BT update. Often they are fixed by disconnecting the car's battery for 30 seconds. In my case (Samsung Note - Android) I had to go to an older version of the BT firmware from the 2013 update.
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Since this was a pre-installed headunit I have no idea what the previous owner might of done to hack it. If it is running some hacked firmware like Condi's Hackmode, I can't help. Remove anything in the SD slot behind the screen just in case. There's no other user replaceable SD within the unit. Normally, the SD is just used for playing media files (audio and movies). It is also used to install firmware and boot into TestMode. It isnt necessary for normal operation.
These units don't ask for an update on their own. There's no external data connection. So if it asked to update something, it came from an SD or USB device that the user installed. Sounds like that's what happened and for whatever reason it failed and left the headunit in an bad state.
Before pulling out the unit, I'd try some simple things using Testmode. Download supertestmode.zip (unzip it; copy TESTMODE.KEY to your FAT32 SD). Unfortunately TestMode has a very arcane user interface which is tricky to learn. There's some videos on Youtube that do a decent job explaining.
There is a manual procedure using TestMode to abort a failed update in some cases. Depends on how far it got. Basically you:
- boot into testmode.
- go into file maintenance
- remove the file USER\SYSTEM\Download\StartKnd.log (if it exists).
This will kick the unit out of upgrade mode, and it should restart into regular mode on next power up (remember to remove the TestMode SD). You should be running with your previous firmware and maps.
If that doesn't pan-out, you can force the unit to use the backup firmware. There are two complete sets of firmware on the unit (/USER/PRG0 and /USER/PRG1). When the unit installs a map update, it alternates overwriting one of them. It should overwrite the oldest. This is controlled by the presence or absence of the file /USER/PRG.FLG. From memory, it works something like this: When the unit is brand new, PRG0 and PRG1 folders are identical and PRG.FLG does not exist. The next map update overwrites PRG1 and creates /USER/PRG.FLG (an empty file). The next time the unit is updated, it sees that PRG.FLG exists and overwrites PRG0 then deletes PRG.FLG. Then this cycle repeats ........
If you want to force the unit to use older firmware you can trick it - if /USER/PRG.FLG exists, delete it. If it doesn't exist, add it. Adding is a little tricky but a simple way is just rename any file on the SD to PRG.FLG. It can be an empty file since the only thing that matters is its name. Then copy it to /USER in the head unit. Then remove the SD and restart the unit.
If none of that works, you can try loading (or reloading) the 2017 maps/firmware. See the thread in the Hacks sub-forum. You'll need to install the Shortfuse hack first to get around the Pioneer password registration key.
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Has this unit ever had a map/software upgrade? Some functions will not accept input if the parking brake is not detected. It sounds like you are saying that you can select the language so it might not be a parking brake problem.
Just some random things to consider: Did the thief disturb and of the electrical wiring? Is there an anti-theft system in the truck? Did you have aftermarket HIDs installed? Did it ask you for a password when it booted?
IIRC, the headunit only asks for language selection on a full reset. Disconnecting the battery only resets a few things. but not the language. The way to do a factory reset on the Z-140BT (according to the manual) is:
- Park your vehicle in a safe place and apply the parking brake.
- Turn the ignition switch off and back on. The navigation system restarts, and the splash screen appears.
- Press and hold the MODE button and the TRK (<) button while the splash screen appears. The “Select Items to Reset” screen appears. If you select anything other than "Cancel", the language and a bunch of other stuff gets erased.
If you didn't do this, something else is going on. Maybe the firmware or non-volatile memory got corrupted. There are a couple of things that could be tried by booting into Testmode but I need a clearer picture of what the current status is before suggesting any fixes that might just make things worse. Also, I haven't messed with one of these units in a long time and I'm kinda rusty. In fact, if anything on mine goes south, it will go in the trash. These unit's are far out-of-date and IMO not worth much effort to fix.
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Please describe the exact problem and how you got there. This isn't a common problem AFAIK.
Is this the first time you've upgraded? Also, is the parking brake set (or the parking brake been correctly bypassed)?
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20 hours ago, DBock said:
Hello crai6m4ck1,
Thanks for this recap, when installing ShortFuseScript AND the firmware update, do we need 2 SD cards or will it work if we put all the files on one card?
To be safe, don't put them on the same card at the same time. You don't need two SDs. You can install ShortFuse then format and re-use the same card for the map update.
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20 hours ago, BrownKing0888 said:
I bought this cd player hooked it up now it's asking for a password, owner knows of none, help please... It's a pioneer avic x930bt
Security Password Removal Script for Z110/120/130/140, x920/930/940 &
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22 hours ago, JayPat said:
Any suggestions or alternatives?
Find a 4 or 8 GB SD. The AVIC boot loader isn't very sophisticated. I don't know what the max volume it can handle.
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10 hours ago, pierluigi.baldassari said:
Buongiorno ragazzi sono appena iscritto e dovrei aggiornare il mio F940 BT ma mi manca il hack ShortFuse. qualcuno puo mandarmelo ve ne sarei molto grato
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6 hours ago, GuidoW said:
... However, there is a shortcut function in the navigationscreen where you should be able to turn on and off the night modus manually. I find it extremly weird they give you this option when it can't work without the illuminiation wire connected. So i am curious if anyone knows a way to bypass the wire through the hack, and make the manual method work.
If you are referring to the "Quick Access" menu option for Day/Night Display, all it does is let you toggle between Day or Automatic. It works as described in the user manual. Automatic requires the Illumination wire to be connected. There is no Night mode setting
Also there is no hack to change the way it works. It isn't worth the time it would take a skilled hacker to figure out how - just for you. The solution is to correctly install the unit in your car. It is very easy to install the head-unit correctly. It may be possible to find that unconnected wire by looking under the dashboard without removing the head unit.
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The Night Mode setting only has two options
Automatic (dark background and dim when your lights are on)
Day (always bright with light background)
First Go to Settings / Map Settings / Day Night Display then make sure you have selected Automatic mode. Otherwise it will always be in Day mode.
Now turn on your lights. If it still is always in Day mode, your Illumination wire is not properly connected. You can also test if it is connected by going to Settings / Navi Settings / Connection Status. The Illumination status should say "On" when the car's lights are on, and "Off" when they are off.
If you can not fix the wires yourself you should take the car to a service shop.
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21 hours ago, Bggunnz said:
I have seen some threads here regarding this same issue but they are quite old. I can't seem to find the ShortFuseScript.zip anywhere. Is there someone out there that might be able to help or is there something better? It shows unavailable here. ShortFuseScript.zip
Did you look at this thread? The download link works.
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22 hours ago, 12Chrismike said:
I have a prionner x930BT i forget the password was need help
I am not sure what you are trying to say. This thread has all the help you should need. You should ask a specific question if you don't understand something about the process.
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Sorry, what device is asking for a pass code? The phone or the head unit? It doesn't sound like this has anything to do with anti-theft security. Sounds like you are being asked for your Bluetooth password/pin. If pairing from your phone, it would be asking for the code on the AVIC (default is 1111). It is in the BT headunit's settings and is user configurable. But you'd need to get into BT settings.
Are you also locked-out of other functionality? For example, can you enter a destination address in Nav? If not, the problem is your parking brake not connected correctly.
You can also test the current state of the parking brake by going into Settings/Navi Settings/Connection Status. If you set the brake, it should say "On". If is always says "Off", that's the problem. If the parking brake switch has been bypassed, it will always say "On".This is OK. If it works as expected, then you have a problem with the Bluetooth hardware and will need repairs.
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2 hours ago, Hunterbres said:
you can re-post the script zip file because it’s taken down on the old thread.
The download works fine. You must be a member to download any files hosted by avic411. Since you've now joined, try again.
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Why install this extremely old version. The last US/Can release was 2017. While that is still kind of old, it is 4 yrs newer that 2013. The updates are not incremental, you only need to install the most recent.
To address your question, I'd suggest doing a factory reset by disconnecting the battery for about 30 seconds. It should prompt you for language when you restart the unit. If English is not one of those choices, you'd better learn Spanish
But do install 2017. Look at the 2017 upgrade thread. Install the Shortfuse hack to disable the upgrade's password check. Then install the map update. You might also update the Bluetooth firmware.
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Not enough info to provide much advice.
What is the map firmware version? What is the bluetooth firmware version? What phone do you have?
Have you tried initiating BT pairing on the Z920BT? (in the BT menu) You would need to make your phone discoverable.
Also, some phones have trouble with the last Pioneer BT firmware (IIRC V3.32). Downgrading to 3.24 might fix it. V3.24
Downgrade to BT 3.24 .. where to find file
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If you searched AVIC411 you'd find at least one link to download the files. See this thread.
This firmware should work with most Z and X series.