RonS

2 hours ago, kheller2 said:

Two dumb questions:

1. On the Z140BH, I previously updated it to the 2015 release using notes in the other threads. But I don't recall having to use any shortfuse hack, although maybe I used test mode.  I think all I did was mod the CARDINFO file and insert the new SD contents and it upgraded.  Why is there a different approach to upgrading with the 2017 this time to bypass the password lock, which I don't recall doing at all on the 2015 update.  (I'm asking this because I used to make hybrid map DVD hacks for the AVIC-90DVD and AVIC-D3 units and I want to be educated)

2. Has the forum software been updated? I see references all the time to "see post #23" or something like that, but the post #'s no longer show up on the top right of posts, instead there is a report or share link but no post number link.

 

Feel free to throw rocks.

No rocks, but:

#1 Whoever figured out that old hack (pionera???) doesn't seem to be around anymore. So the shortfuse hack worked and will probably always work for these old units. On that other hardware, you are on your own.

#2 Yes. Jason rehosted and converted to a newer BB software. I guess some things didn't (or couldn't) get ported. It does seem to have severly cut down on spammers, but that's the only thing I like about it. But nobody asked me.

20 hours ago, Schere21 said:

Really Nice, now i can use my radio again, thank you!

Can you help me with the sd card as well? How can I use it at the PC again? 
My Windows PC can't open the sd card now...

Try cleaning the SD contacts or reformating.

10 hours ago, gjljgj1@comcast.net said:

I understand my 920 is running version 5, which I'm thinking is the firmware version of the 940. I completely understand hardware didn't get upgraded to a 940. Does that mean I don't need to go to 5.1 before ordering / installing the 2017 maps? I'm happy with the way the unit is working if it doesn't need anything more than to install the latest maps that's great, if it's going to lose some functionality then I'll install whatever it needs.   

If it works now, it will work with 5.1. That was a patch to 5.0 to fix some issues with Apple Lighting support.

BTW, it is still on Pioneer USA's site: Software Downloads   Scroll down to X940 5.1 update. Read the instructions before installing.

1 hour ago, gjljgj1@comcast.net said:

Hi, 

I followed along with the instructions to update an X920 to an X940. I currently have a nicely updated unit operating on Firmware Version 5 and BT version 3.32. I would like to purchase the latest 2017 maps from Navigation.com but I'm reading that I need to get to firmware 5.1 before I install any additional updates. I can't seem to find a version 5.1 update anywhere. Can anyone point me in the right direction? 

Thanks,

 

Keepin mind that you don't currently have a x-940, you have a X920 running v5.0 firmware.  In the 5.1 update it clearly says:

58 minutes ago, nosaJ-11C7 said:

Does anyone happen to have a saved copy of the product information for the map update?  The link on the official website is unfortunately dead.

AVIC-Z110BT, AVIC-Z120BT, AVIC-X920BT         CRD5009A.pdf

I'd like to find out what other software changes might be included in the update before I purchase it myself.  Thanks!

Got it. 

Pioneer_2017_maps-Z110-CRD5009A.pdf

2 hours ago, orangedragon said:

I have a AVIC-X920BT that I am trying to update. Application version says its 2.001 with Version 2.00, I have downloaded the 2.003 update from Pioneer and have tried to apply the update via SD and USB it goes though all the parts then says "Update failed" with a number 10 in the bottom right. I have searched the forum and google to no avail, I see lots of people with this issue but no resolution. I called Pioneer support and they are trying to say its something internal and I need to send in for repair at a flat rate of $299. Any help is greatly appreciated. 

I wouldn't bother trying to install 2.003. It is obselete and if you've lived with it this long - you don't need it.

Instead, update to the 2017 firmware and maps. 

1 hour ago, morus said:

Thanks Ron, but it is not an issue with the parking brake. As I said, I did a lot of tests including direct access to the parrot module via AT-commands and it is all fine. It is just the communication with the Pioneer BT application software that does not work. Somehow the settings in USER\RW\SETUP\BT\BTUNIT.DAT got messed up. That's why I need this file from a working unit. 

On my Z110-BT it is in /USER/SETUP/BT.  Here's mine but I don't know if it will work. Did you try just copy/deleting yours and see it it could be recreated?

BTUNIT.DAT

First make sure that your parking brake is detected as set. Go to Settings / Navi Settings / Connection Status  and make sure it says Parking Brake is On. When Off, some settings and functions are grayed.

4 hours ago, marc86 said:

Hi, thanks for your quick reply. 

Yes, I see version 7.0, so it seems to be installed. I'm not sure about the previous version, I think it was 2.0. (2013?). I entered some new streets from the last years in my nav, but he couldn't find anyone...

The whole interface is the same as well. Is that normal?

I've two other things I would like to know (you seem to have a lot of knowledge about this subject!):

- I cant' see info about speed camera's. Do I have to download this seperately?

- Maybe something different, but my iPod nano (5th generation) and Samsung Galaxy S7 don't make a connection with the Pioneer 'media system'. Is this because I haven't (probably) CarPlay or are their some other tricks?

All the best from Holland!

I think there might be a few minor differences in the menus. Did you also update the Bluetooth to v3.32? 

I can't help with speed cameras. I think somewhere in this thread someone posted about that. We don't have that "feature" in the US.

I assume your iPod is wired and your Samsung is through BT. 

If you are trying to use Pandora or Aha, there is a setting somewhere called App Connection" where you select wired or wireless (BT).  iPods should be wired (USB) with the proper cable.  Some people have reported problems with Samsung via BT. But whenever there are problems after a major update I recommend to do a cold-start by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes.

14 hours ago, marc86 said:

Hi,

Thank you for the download!

I  installed shortfuse, and after that ran the update. But eventhough it seems finished, nothing changed, no new maps or interface. avic f840bt.

Can anyone help? thnx

 

Depending on your previous version, you might not notice any changes unless a map in your area changed.  Go to settings / System Settings / Service Information

Verify it says v7.0.

10 hours ago, jazzym3 said:

My apologies, what I meant to say was I found the shortfuse hack post but the actual WinZip file that's supposed to be attached didn't work, I was wondering to see if you could send the link for that for me to download?

I don't know why some people have trouble getting that file. I can download it. I even reposted it here: http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/83535-map-update-hack-using-shortfuse-method-z110-z140x920-x940/&do=findComment&comment=347222

2 hours ago, jazzym3 said:

Okay, I did that but I'm having a hard time trying to find the short fuse hack file, is there any way you can send me a link to it? It would be so much easier.

Shortfuse Hack

43 minutes ago, jazzym3 said:

i tried to install firmware 3.002 but it wouldn't work, all i keep getting is the splash screen.

So Testmode booted and you saw the menu? That's really all I wanted to know for now.  That says your unit isn't totally bricked. There's some Youtube videos on TestMode but the operation is different between the X and Z series (different buttons). You probably won't need it anyway.

If your unit already has 3.x on it, it won't do anything. So I'd try installing the 2017 maps/app. It is in the Z series sub-forum. First read and Install the shortfuse hack. That prepares the unit for the map installation. BTW - Z and X series use the same update. Good luck - you've got a lot of reading to do.

9 hours ago, spankedmonkey said:

Unfortunately I'm still without turn-by-turn functions and street indicators for this unit. However all radio, blue-tooth, I-device connections, phone, etc. work properly, it's just simply problematic in the GPS/map functions. Would like to get this unit working properly as I have upcoming travels. Any advice is appreciated. 

If that is the only thing wrong, it sounds like a settings issue. I just looked in the X series operations manual and it mentions you can turn off guidance by pressing the center of the volume knob. A long press mutes everything. A short press mutes guidance.   Also check System Settings/Volume Settings to see both the Guidance  volume level and the guidance mute icon.

13 hours ago, jazzym3 said:

Hello, I have a huge issue, I have a Avic x930bt, it happened out of the clear blue I started my car up and it wouldn't boot up. All I would get is the Pioneer splash screen and it stays there, I tried to download the update for the firmware and put it in but it did not work. Now I am trying to just go back to the original 3.00 firmware but I don't know how to get it and reinstall it so it can work again. Does anyone have any ideas on how this works and can help? Very much appreciate it skip.

What update and what happened when you tried to install it?   Did it do nothing?

Have you tried TestMode?   BTW, I see no point in installing v3.x software. If it happened out-of-the-blue then It sounds like a hardware problem.

On 3/16/2018 at 8:41 AM, paskishow44 said:

I don't think the SD card, I've tried with a another...

I am certain that the error is when the script is executing the command:   COPY USER\SYSTEM\SECURITY\PASSWORD.DAT SD\PASSWORD.DAT
That means it can't write to SD.

There is the only one COPY command in the script. If you want, you can edit ScriptExec.ini and remove that line. In that case, you will not have a backup of the old password file, but that should not hurt.

3 hours ago, paskishow44 said:

Hi, I have an AVIC F9210BT and I wanted to remove the existing password to be able to update it.Unfortunely, using this trick I finish with this screen. Can you help me? Thank you!!!

 

It can't write to the SD. Is the write-protect on?

2 hours ago, densil101 said:

I can confirm that it does work on the F series. Many thanks for all your work.

Great. Which model? I guess it shouldn't matter as long as it is compatible with v7 (2017) firmware. But it is nice to know the proven successes.

47 minutes ago, densil101 said:

Can anyone confirm that this definitely works for the F series?

Many thanks!!

It is easily reversible if it doesn't work.

19 minutes ago, nek13 said:

solved bay ebay..  Not valid "12345"  is code valid 22XXXXXX

Or you could of searched around here for a few minutes and got it for free.  Security Password Removal Script for Z110/120/130/140, x920/930/940 & some older F series

1 hour ago, Puda said:

Hello all need a little help got z140bh and few months ago all the buttons in my bt screen greyed out. I call Pioneer they tell me to try the update and if that doesn't work I can send it in for 200$ and they will fix it. I did the update first part went fine then I moved to the bt update after a few minutes of fails. When I go into the service info screen and touch the top left to get all the info to show next to the bt firmware it's all ................ Next to it. When I call Pioneer and ask them if the can send me the origanl firmware for the bt they tell me no and to send it in for service. So is there a way to put the original bt  firmware on the unit and does anyone have it. Thanks in advance for the help 

What version map software are you running? You don't want the original  (Z140) BT firmware.  If you can't install the update you won't be able to re-install the original. Best to figure out the problem. You need to run the version that goes with your current applications. You never said exactly what the problem was installing the update. What happens if you try again? Try a different SD? Reformat (full not quick) FAT32. Don't use a huge sd - less than 16 GB. BTW, all you need on the SD is the FIRMWARE folder & contents. If you don't have the parking brake by-passed, set your parking brake, then go to Settings/Bluetooth Settings and make sure Bluetooth is set to On.  The try Firmware Update. What version does it say there?

6 minutes ago, BlakeStone said:

When the forum software changed, the post numbers stopped being displayed.  How do you find post #151 with this new forum look?

Yeah, that sucks. I guess going forward we'll have to use links to referenced posts. I think this is what #151 refers to http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/32929-x930bt-password-recovery-obsolete/&do=findComment&comment=280379

13 hours ago, commando528 said:

In an attempt to give back instead of continually freeloading, here is a modification of RonS' ShortFuse script coupled to the patched Navi.exe in post #2 that was used successfully on a Z110BT after upgrading to the 2017 v7 US/Can Navi Maps.. .

Thanks. I thought about doing something like that but I didn't want to deal with figuring out (in the script) which PRG directory to update. Now, I realize it doesn't matter - just do both. The non-active directory NAVI.EXE will never be run again. And next update (2018?) will overwrite it anyway. Brilliant.

BTW, I added a warning so some fool doesn't brick his unit with an incompatible program.

11 minutes ago, PAGLIA62 said:

ok can i extract the shortfuse zip and the update on the same sd card or should  have 2 different? thanks for your patience

First install shortfuse (read the 1st post in that thread). Then you can reformat and use the SD for installing the maps. Do not try to do both at the same time. Do not have any files on the map SD except the files extracted for the 2017 zip. Do not modify any of those files except if you need to replace CARDINFO,CIF. If you don't know what I'm referring to, read the thread.

2 hours ago, PAGLIA62 said:

Thanks for replay,so i have to do normal procedure to update or shortfuse method? f840 bt

If you are using the files provided by godzilla, yes. you must install the shortfuse hack. Then enter PASSWORDPASSWORD when asked for the Pioneer code.