RonS

4 hours ago, d34dm4n70 said:

thanks for reply, the unit stuck in a reboot loop, don't read the sd card at boot.There is a way to stop the reboot loop? i made the sd card with supertestmode file without succes.

You must be doing something wrong.  Hard to tell with so little info. Unzip Supertestmode.zip and place TESTMODE.KEY in the root of an empty FAT32 formatted SD. Best to use a 4GB or 8GB SD. The bootloader isn't very smart.

If you can't boot into TestMode, you're out of luck. But I doubt your unit is totally bricked.

You never said what failed or what you were trying to install. I hope it wasn't Condi's hack mode. 

10 hours ago, d34dm4n70 said:

Hi, i was updating with sd card my avic f920bt and after some copying i get an error and a reboot loop that says update problem. i attach a photo.

Can anyone help me?

 

See step #6 here

11 hours ago, bitmap said:

If you have your AVIC-Z150BH hooked up completely, you have the both 1) car speed signal input*, and 2) reverse gear signal input*.  With those two wires, the system should operate without a GPS signal.

My guess is that you have those two wires connected and may have a poor connection (e.g. loose connection, et al) to the GPS antenna.  You can find information on the GPS signal on the Information Screen.

* Some installers unfortunately neglect to connect them.

Yes, between speed sensor, knowing whether the vehicle is going forward or reverse, and the inertial guidance (senses turns and even inclines) your GPS's dead reckoning will do a pretty good job estimating your vehicle's position. However it will eventually drift off. Last year while not actually navigating by GPS, I glanced at my map display and saw my car's position was on the wrong side of a  river. However the speed and turns matched my driving.  When I got home I had to re-position my GPS antenna to a better spot under my cowling - it seems it slipped too close to the firewall.

9 hours ago, swt180 said:

Any help would be appreciated

You might try this. Service Password Method (worked on AVH4400NEX)

Link to Service Password Method

Here's a link to installation and user's manuals. AVIC-X930BT Manuals

I don't think there's any settings that could cause this. Assuming it was installed correctly (2 separate circuits and fuses - one always hot and one hot with the accessories) then it might be something wrong with the car's ignition switch.

9 hours ago, karolek_ust said:

and you know how to avoid the color of the cable
RAdio is in the VW Jetta A2
I only supported + - and + after ignition

I don't know. I'm sure somebody knows how to hook-up or bypass the parking brake for f840BT.

You need to properly connect the parking brake sensor or bypass. If sensor is installed, you need the parking brake set in order to access many functions.

3 hours ago, freddyuk said:

Getting no responses from anyone. The language I have is Norwegian! Surely it cant be hard to change the language. Everything else works well even the BT but no maps of course.

 

For the 3rd time - the only way to change the language is a factory reset. See the manual. If you don't have one you can probably find one with a Google search.

Did you do as II suggested in the other thread? Disconnect the battery for 30 seconds. Get the manual and find the section on Factory Reset. The power recycle resets some things but I don't think it allows you to reset the text language. There is table in the manual that defines 3 methods to reset the unit and what settings get cleared with each method. IIRC, you want to try method 2.

4 hours ago, freddyuk said:

OK retried and got the update 100% then it restarted and the language option for English is greyed out??? Now what?  Thanks

As nothing was highlighted I pressed OK hoping english would be loaded but I got German which I didn't choose....  I need to change the language please if this is possible?

 

I have no ideas. I don't use the EU firmware since I'm in the US. You should ask this question in the F-Series forum (probably in Hacks/Mods sub-forum). I think the greyed-out language is the one selected.  You touch the one you want.  You likely need a factory reset to get to that screen. Before doing that, I'd disconnect the battery for 30 seconds. 

3 hours ago, freddyuk said:

 

OK I did the Shortfuse hack and this loaded and was confirmed.

Next I inserted the 16GB SD with three files being the Cardinfo above and the update and firmware update files. Nothing happened at all so unit is not reading the SD instruction? I just copied the above files onto my SD. Is there something else I should do as I have no way of opening cif. files on my MAC.

Cardinfo is 33kb   Firmware is 2.1mb and Update is 3.62gb !

Did you replace Cardinfo.cif on the SD with the one in my post (that you just quoted)? Since you have an F920bt, you must use that CardInfo.CIF.  BTW. it is just a text file so any editor can view/edit it as long as it doesn't do any formatting. Cardinfo.cif must be 300 bytes.

26 minutes ago, freddyuk said:

It was the password removal script that you posted in Sept 2017. My unit is not locked. My screen looked similar to this but said download will start in 5 seconds with same error message as below.

....I see there is an update to this thread to remove password but I have not found my "hidden" button when I tried to see the unit firmware details. I just want to load cardinfo.cif file and then the maps update.

 

 

That script is only for when your headunit has been locked and requires a password to boot-up. It is an anti-theft security feature that usually happens when the car's battery is removed (or dies).

It sounds like you want to run the Shortfuse script to allow installing a 2017 map update. That hack disables the validation of a unique password as part of the installation. When the 2017 maps get installed you just enter "PASSWORDPASSWORD" when prompted. Don't get this confused with the password required to unzip the archive after you download it. That one is defined in the first post of the thread.

3 hours ago, freddyuk said:

I just did the password hack and red screen says "password reset in 5 seconds" but below that was an error code 200c120 ?? Or something like that. So did the download fail to work? I just switched off and removed the SD. Shall I do it again?  If I load the maps update and it requires a password can I just back out of that without problems?

Thanks

Too many things going on here. 

What password hack? You never said you were locked-out of your headunit. Did it say "Password Removal will start in 5 seconds..."?   Maybe you meant the Shortfuse hack? It has a message that says "Installation will start in 5 seconds...".

In either case, the SD must not be write-protected. If you are asking about the update installation password, you can back out by removing the SD and rebooting.

So what are you trying to do? If it is the EU 2017 update, please post questions in that thread.

1 hour ago, nezfotnemom said:

@RonS thoughts on this? Do you have a spot I can upload to and share? No one seemed to care too much but I have these for the 2018. Also got a preorder date on the x930 series 2019 

 

 

One other question, there was a condihack fix floating around that fixes a bad install.. I have a x930 that failed on the 2017 update and shows the "Program Start Error" screen... thoughts?

I personally have no place to host files. I doubt AVIC411 would since they could be held liable by Pioneer. 

Are you saying there will be a 2019 update for the x930? Any idea when?

I stay out of cleaning-up condi-hackmode messes.  It could be as simple as deleting the replacement navi.exe and renaming the old (saved) one back. Or, if you are just trying to recover from a failed install of 2017,  put the super testmode.key on a SD or usb, put that in, and it should boot to testmode. Go into file maintenance, and remove the file:
  USER\SYSTEM\Download\StartKnd.log.   This will kick the unit out of upgrade mode, and should restart into regular mode on next power up (remember to remove the TestMode SD). 

Another possibility is to add or remove /USER/PRG.FLG to tell the system to use the other program files.

1 hour ago, freddyuk said:

Many thanks

My green brake wire is already connected to ground wire from the unit (previous owner) No other cables are connected ie. speed signal/remote control just the official loom with the steering wheel control module. I think the official bypass has black/green/blue connected together so hope BT update will still work on mine. As I said I have paired 3 phones so it does work occasionally but then greys out all by itself and becomes useless. Cant even use the phone dial pad as that is blank too.

The BT update is the important one now as I hope it will restore functionality of this service. I would also then try to find 2017 EU maps update - is it in the threads somewhere.

Assuming the F-series is like the US Z series, it requires moving an unused wire in the harness (or adding  new wire), then grounding that one.  If you can watch a DVD while driving (not a good idea except for testing), it is installed. It is possible that the wire is loose - either in the harness or the ground connection. That has been known to cause intermittent problems.

The 2017 EU maps are here - New 2017 Release F20BT F30BT F40Bt F920BT F930BT F840BT Etc. It has BT version 3.32. 

Since you have an F920bt, you'll need to replace the CardInfo.cif file.  The one I attached should work. If the update doesn't start, you can create your own reading through that long thread.

CARDINFO.cif

2 hours ago, freddyuk said:

Hi RonS and thanks for such a quick response - I know you are the man!  There is no download in the posts I am seeing - honest. I have been right through the thread/s and rechecked post 1 and no link there.

I have been out in the car switching buttons back and forth as the BT has come up with all buttons working only two or three times. First time I registered 3 phones and made a test call. Next time the BT is switched off and other buttons are grey including register. Pressing BT ON/FF just means the failed connection message comes up as I guess you need all the buttons white to actually do anything. Suddenly all buttons there so I quickly try to press ON button but missed it! Back to greyed out except for 3 or 4 options. Very frustrating.

I have managed to get the Firmware to come up twice and the number there is 3.11? Most times this is blank. I cannot get any other info from pressing top left corner of the screen - nothing happens there.

I did call Pioneer who wanted £200 +tax + shipping for a new BT module (without seeing the unit) - I declined that offer. No other solutions offered.

So I plan to follow your instructions re password hack which I think I do first and then load this firmware. There is no new firmware on Pioneer site  ? So if I need the latest latest updates where would I find those? Sorry to be a pain but I am not a computer software expert just want to get this unit 100% again if it is possible.

In meantime I am re reading all the posts so I don't screw this up and hopefully find correct firmware options

Many thanks

 

 

Sorry I have now realised I am looking for the download under the F920 instructions.. I am an idiot.

To just update the BT firmware, you can use either EU or US/CAN updates. 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you need the parking brake on (or the PB bypass wired correctly) in order to configure BT (both pairing and firmware update).

2 hours ago, freddyuk said:

I have read through the posts but I still cannot see where I can download the actual zip file. I need to fix my f920bt with usual BT problems

Thanks anyone who can assist directing me

It's in the 1st post. Download:  2013 Update Download (2.3GB)  You unzip it and only copy the Firmware folder to the root of your SD card.

But why not just install the 2017 update along with the newest BT firmware?

2 hours ago, Mrjason2 said:

Will this work on an aftermarket “Pioneer AVIC-X9310BT?

I purchased my car with this radio already installed. I just put a battery in my car and now it’s asking for a password. I bought the car from the dealership I work at... needless to say... I can’t get a hold of the original owner. 

The number listed on his trade in paperwork is no longer working... and he isn’t answering my emails. 

It should work. Easy (and safe) to find out. 

1 hour ago, digger500 said:

Hello
A question. Is a Superfuse necessary with a F940Bt? Or can I take the cardinfo from the 2015 update. Firmware is 6.00
Thank`s for reply
Cu
Digger500

If you mean Shortfuse, yes it is necessary. Cardinfo is only to identify which AVIC models the update supports. Since you have an F940, you should not change the Cardino.cif that comes with godzilla's files.

11 hours ago, Phillys finest said:

Thanks Ron, your links now work. I think the site must have been having an issue. 

I know I installed the paid update that pioneer had I think 2011 maps? Do you think I would be ok then since I have already made 1 update?

I don’t see anything in the manual about what iPhones would be supported now but I guess it’s worth a shot

I think that will do it. I don't remember when they switched support for traffic tuners. I think it was in the first update after 2010.

4 hours ago, Phillys finest said:

Sorry to revive an old thread, but the links to the manuals aren’t working. 

Will this $120 update from navigation.com not just do maps but also firmware and BT? Will this latest BT update allow my iPhone X to work

I am trying to update my Z110bt which I have neglected for a few years

The links I provided work. But those on Navigation.com are broken. Each release includes maps and firmware. I suggest you check the manual for specifics on support for iPhone and iTouch devices.

If you are still running on the original Z110 firmware (IIRC it was v 1.xxx), you might have serious issues installing the 2017 update version posted in this thread (for Z130 & Z140). Some people with original Z110 firmware had odd problems related to the tuner. I suspect it is caused by drivers for a different traffic tuner that is no longer supported.  I suggest that you install firmware specifically released for the Z110/Z120 to ensure you get the updated traffic tuner drivers (even if you don't use the new traffic tuner).

3 hours ago, plywak said:

Anybody got the same or ther is something wrong with my unit?

It's an old problem for probably all Pioneer headunits. I assume you are using USB or SD media - not iPod.

You can try using the technique described here: Sort order  Yes it is a PITA! That's why I use my iTouch for all my MP3 files.

If anyone tries the "SERVICE PASS OFF" method (a few posts above), please post your results and model info to verify it works. From the description it seems like this would be needed each time the unit is cold-booted (as when battery is removed) since it doesn't clear the password - just gets you past the password prompt. So if you go that route, I recommend that you print the instructions and keep them in the glove compartment. 

On 1/20/2019 at 7:26 PM, sanchez101010 said:

The smaller card did not work any other ideas ronS?

Not other than keep trying other things. Maybe disconnect your battery for a minute to force a cold boot. 

There some stuff in TestMode (there's several pages of options) to test Bluetooth and Program Forced Write can force a BT firmware update. Careful - there's some dangerous stuff there too.

It could also be a hardware problem. I recall others that had similar problems. But repair is kind of expensive and for a unit this old it might not be worth it.

Very unlikely that there's something wrong with the \Firmware files. Only a guess... Try a different (less <= 8 GB) SD. You only need the \Firmware files on it.

BTW, what version were you updating from since this 3.32 version has been around for many years. No need to update unless you were running an old version.