RonS

then some wierd road apple's be happenin cause it all worked fine before the mod, and as I stated I (really) did this by the book err vid.

I cannot imagine it being a loose connect but them road apples are there and they are huge and smell real bad LOL

I am thinking it may be a ground even though I get a partial work from it, but when it no wanna work right rip it all apart an start again.

one last thought, could it be that the HU was hooked up first without bypass to make sure all worked (it did) should I reset it to factory in the settings area? or dissconnect the + side of battery and reset that way (unless it has internal memory that wont be wiped in case of dead batt, just thinking of everything going thru my head, it should be working as is its not and it is pissing me off.

Joe

As Jason said - no relationship between Bypass and VR , except that the unit was likely removed in order to access the harness. It is possible you re-connected the mic in the wrong socket (remote). Also, it might be loosely inserted. I believe the problem with VR Ris that something was disturbed in the process of doing the bypass.

I am very hands on, so this is not my first time playing with wire, or fire hmmmm thats where they got the name firewire so while

tech yes new to this bypass I am not a noob overall. just had to throw that in in case you had the "do we have another idiot here question)

so I wanted to raise my hand and vote NO, @#$ hole well umm yes sometimes when nessesary i-dot NO add Jagermiester then both can happen but I stopped

drinking when twins where born 4 yrs ago, and yes I am damn thirsty.

Maybe you should lay-off coffee too.

Hey all. I have a Z110BT.

 

Using the search function, I've come to learn that the reason why most of the options on the settings menu are grayed out is because the emergency brake is not engaged. However, my buttons are grayed out even when the e-brake is engaged.

 

I've also learned that the e-brake wire is the "green" one.

 

So here's my question. Where should the trouble shooting begin? Should I start to dig into the e-brake and check the green wire's connectivity? Will I need to pull the head unit?

 

Any guidance would be appreciated as I am a complete noob.

First, you didn't say which buttons didn't work. If it is just one - there may be another issue. If it is a problem w/PB circuit, you won't be able to set a destinatin, play any video (like DVD) and a whole lot of stuff.

Before you go tearing into things, lets try a simple test to verify that your problem is the PB sensor/circuit. Go to the Settings/Navi Settings screen. The 3rd line displays the state of the PB. Now set and release your PB several times and note whether the AVIC detects the change. If it always says "Off", then that is your problem.

If that is the issue (which it probably is), then you have two choices:

-- re-install the PB connection as shown in the installation manual

-- pull the HU and install the by-pass

However, if you paid to install the HU, take it back - he F'd up and you didn't get what you paid for. A pro might not want to do the by-pass for potential liability issues, but he still should not have left you leave with this important functionality not working.

If you did it yourself - or a friend, then you messed up something. I recommend pulling the HU and doing the bypass and be done with it (and gaining lots of functionality). If you do, use common sense while driving and don't let your new toy distract you. Its nice to be able to search for a POI while driving - but it is also dangerous. ANd for God's sake, don't watch a DVD.

Here are the steps received from MotionX

 

 

When I drive the screen goes blank.

 

They do *not* work for me. Iphone 4 Z130BT.

 

Do they work for anyone on the board?

 

Ramrod

Just a guess - have you done the parking brake by-pass?

I ordered some of these pins and could not get them into the connector. Does anyone have the secret to this.

Do you have a Z110/120 or a Z130? Just wondering if you got the correct pins. Since the harness is different on the Z130, I wouln't asssume the pins are the same size. If they are the correct ones, you might try rotating 90 degrees and try again. Keep rotating until you do the full 360.

The regular menu "beep" is enabled but that continous beeping was new. I haven't been into the test mode. It's a Z110BT with the cracked upgrade. It was a surprise to jump into my truck and have the head unit beeping at me and also having some extra file system access.

The continuous tone is just one of the built-in wave files. There must be a long tone and a short one. Notice in your video - It says "AudioFile" at the top while the constant tone is playing - then a slight break, then a short tone. Like it was queued-up. Then "AudioFile" disappears. And there is silence (except for those annoying beep tones - I turn them off) until you select the "asterick.wav". I can't make out that sound - it is just a quick one. But later whenever you select a built-in wav file the "AudioFile" reappears. I suspect the browser normally shows ID3 tags if they are in the file, otherwise it just shows "AudioFile".

So it appears you somehow booted up into the File Explorer. This let you browse through not only USB directories, but also allowed you to go up to the root. From there you could get into Windows and NAND. Cool.

I also noticed you hadn't pressed "OK" yet, cause it prompted you much later in the video. Is it possible that when you shutdown the last time - your music source was SD or USB?

I got into my truck a little while ago and this is what I saw.

The beeping in the beginning is coming from the head unit.

The music at :58 and the asian voice at 1:30 are not on any media of mine, they are coming from the head units memory. I grabbed my cell phone

and took that video. I reset the head unit afterward and I no longer have that folder access.

Do you normally have the "beep" enabled of did that just start with this glitch. I think audio files are actually part of the firmware. I found them before while browsing another WinCE device that had been hacked.

Too bad you reset it, might of been useful in learning how to hack these units. It seemed like you somehow go into the file explorer. Now, if only we could figure how to do this at will. Had you ever played around in TestMode?

RonS, the dual mics are pointed back towards me mounted on the steering column. For me, I also use the VR with the top down, very useful when you are trying to out run the police chasing you for speeding.

Yeah, VR works pretty good, but how's the BT quality for when you are trying to talk to your lawyer???

but I'm still not sure how to play videos sitting in my ipod playlists.

See pg 120 in the Z130 manual.

I have got a Z130BT purchased from US with US and Canada Map loaded on the unit. How I can load Australian Map on to the unit so I can use this Z130BT navigation system with Australian Map in Australia?

 

Pioneer Service in Australia refused to do so, but there must be a way to do it?

You can't. Your only hope is when Pioneer releases the Z120 > Z130 update - AU version. Once hacked (by ShortFuse?) that might work for you. Your issue will be more complicated since it already is a Z130, so the update will need to be fooled into thinking it is a newer version number. And even if that works, you might lose those Z130 features that are not supported by the Z120 hardware. So what you will be left with is the subset of Z130 features that work on the Z120.

Honestly, why do people buy these US units and then assume they can be modified?

Oh yes, posted in the wrong sub-forum. This is a question about a Hack.

Here it is, perhaps someone can make this sticky

This is CRB3610A.pdf (48.44 MB), great manual with lots of color screenshots.

 

http://www.multiupload.com/2T7EJCRNTT

Why not just get it from Pioneer directly and avoid all that adware B.S.?

http://www.pioneerel...anual020811.pdf

Just hit the SaveAs icon in the PDF viewer.

looking to get the z130bt and had a couple questions regarding the video playback capabilities... I know it has a dvd player so I know it will play dvd's but would it be able to play .avi or .mp4 files? I know you can do this via your iPod/iPhone but was wondering if that was available either through burning a dvd or through the sd card?

 

any help would be much appreciated!

Yes

Ok, I just figured this out. The post above is kinda close. A little vue. First step is to goto your settings. Anywhere in there you can hold the mode button and your brightness menu will pop up.

One thing I noted was when my lights were off, I was controlling the setting for the daytime mode. When I had my headlights on, the icon switched from a sun to a moon, and here is where you can the settings for the brightness. I turned the "dimmer" all the way down, and now my day and night time modes are the same brightness.

 

(I did this because I drive with just my fog lights on during the day, which activates the night mode on my headunit, and I can't see the display when driving)

No, Jason was correct. Hold Mode for a few seconds. You don't have to be in any particular menu. Works from any screen.

If you drive during the day with your fog lights, then change your ILL wire tap to the headlights. That way your day/night mode will work automatically. I don't think there is a compromise setting for brightness that works both in the dark and in bright daylight. Better to optimize the display for each. Do you manually switch between day mode and night mode (black backround)?

BT will just give you slightly fancier control than you would get wit a BT headset. Phone, and stereo audio. (It will display more info, and handles Voice Recognition dialing). The cable adds a much enhanced control of the iPhone. Especially the music/video playback. The HU builds a catalog/database for voice recognition (VR) by album, artist, song. On the 120/130 is adds more - like Pandora - directly from the AVIC.

Basically, very much of the iPhone/iPod functionality and control can be done from the AVIC touch-screen. Enough that I just keep it in my glove box. Of course, there are other apps and functions on the phone you can't control from the HU, it doesn't replicate the whole user interface.

I don't play videos while driving (2-seater - I'm too busy driving - and the passenger is holding-on for dear life ), so I'm not an expert on this. But many who do them store the videos on the iPhone/iPod. Yes, you can also play videos from CD/DVD/SD, but many will require re-formating and it can be tedious. The back of the User's Manual has some of the supported formats. BTW, if you don't have yours yet, you can download it from http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Navigation/AVIC-Z130BT_OperationManual020811.pdf

I have a question related to this post. I grounded the parking brake wire. Then I moved the mute wire over. Instead of connecting the mute wire to the black ground wire on the black connector, I loosened a screw on the head unit and tightened the wire there. The body of the head unit should be grounded right? I am still getting the annoying "Incorrect wiring of parking brake detected" message. Now I'm wondering about 3 possible problems:

 

1. I moved the pin to the wrong position (I moved the pin over, not down).

2. The body of the head unit is actually now grounded.

3. The pin is simply not making contact.

 

Suggestions?

Hard to say. 1st I'd make sure the old mute wire is actually grounded to the car chassis. I think your assumption that the HU also is grounded sounds reasonable, but who knows.

I doubt you got the wrong pin, but that is easy to check. Watch the video on Youtube to be sure. Most likely, though, it is #3. That is a common problem. Make sure the moved connector is firmly and completely seated. Also, it is possible you damaged it when you removed it from the Mute position. Might need to solder the conductor.

I bought the firmware update from eBay during the update on disc 2 it froze on 98% done. So I called pioneer and told them the issue. They told me to send it in for repair. Before I sent it in I went into the menu deleted all pics and contacts and removed my DVD out of unit. Pioneer received the unit and told me I had a damaged circuit board and that it was 350 to repair! I called them and told them that it was a firmware issue. They said that they are not technicians and can't forward me to the technicians. So reluctantly I paid it. Upon receiving my unit they had reset all my updates and left me with the very original firmware. U would figure that before they sent it out they would update the firmware to the newest firmware especially since I just got done paying a bullshit $350 charge. this is the last pioneer I ever own just because of the shabby service I have received!

If you got to SD (not disc) two, you already installed the update. SD2 is just the latest Parrot BT update. It still works without it. Sounds more like a bad SD2.

Sorry, you had to pay $350 for nothing. Other than the update freezing, what other symptoms did you have that would require repairs?

Did you buy one of the $30 "AVIC-Z110BT TO AVIC-Z120BT" SDs on ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item1e61a703f6

I wondered if they were legit or just stealing ShortFuse's hack. It says instructions are included. Did they actually require you register the upgrade with Pioneer to get the security code? If not you got ripped off twice.

The mic worked in my particular car installed by a very experienced guy. I hope it works for you!

I tried the steering column position with the Pioneer mic. Didn't work very well for me. So I tried other places. Finally got decent results with the mic near the overhead courtesy light, so it is above and near the center of the windshield. Pointed at me.

How do you have your mics pointed? Both pointed back at you, I'd guess (the driver - or since its a 911 - the pilot ). I was wondering if the dual mic setup might pick up more road noise etc, since it seems one of the mics would always also pick up more of everything. Glad to hear that works though, especially in a convertible. That has to be a worst-case scenario.

My 987C has more interior noise than the typical car - engine/exhaust/road and wind when the windows are down. My stock Pioneer mic works, but it does pick up extraneous noises too. Which is very distracting to the persons on the other end.

If this works for others, I may order one. Although I will wait to install until I get a back-up camera. Too big of a hassle to get behind the HU and then route the wire.

I was full reset my Z120BT with to hold button MODE and TRK and all functions have been reseted,but version is same as privouse 2.003.?How can I obtain original version for my unit Z120BT ? please give info to me? and can you say me which firmware version is in original 120BT?

Well, I was really thinking the factory restore method on pg 188. That is "System Settings"/"Restore Factory Settings".

Your version is the latest, you can't go back to an older version.

You didn't say whether you still have the video problem. Also, are you talking about the the colors on-the screeen when you play video/DVDs? Can you decribe it better? There are adjustments you can make to color balance and brightness, contrast..... See pg 167. Also note that the settings are memorized separately for the various sources, so the DVD, iPod abd SD/USB settings can be changed independently.

Thank you...that's what I thought I just wanted to be sure.

I should of asked - are you sure the installer didn't bypass? My previous answer was really a way to see if the un-bypassed PB wire was actually connected. If you can do all that while not setting the PB, then you are done.

Question...I had a car stereo place install my Z120BT stereo. I'm going to do the hack after the fact...I'll move the mute wire over one slot and ground it and the parking brake wire to ground...

So my questions is this...I don't know if the stereo place attached my parking brake wire according to original install instructions..do I just cut that wire and ground it?..or do I leave it how they installed it and ground it?

 

 

Thanks in advance!

B.R

If you can use the NAV to enter a destination, search POIs, etc, then they did the normal PB install. You should try is several times and under various conditions to be sure.

But it really doesn't matter. I'd just cut it at a convienent place (allowing enough slack to work with) and splice in a new wire to ground both the PB and Mute. It is very easy to find a ground. Just about any metal that connects to the chassis.

Sorry about that, yes I will definitely start a new one every time. Thank you all for your answers

No problem, and I'm not suggesting a new thread for every question. Often, you'll find an existing thread which addresses the subject of your question. You can post it there if it doesn't lead that thread in a totally different direction. Or, if you want to have a general dialog about several related subjects, just start a new one with a generic subject title, like "Z130 questions" or whatever. That just makes it easier for mods to keep this great site tidy and organized over the years.

i recently had a avic 110bt from amazon.com with msn direct xm tuner and backup camera my avic 110bt burnt so i purchased the z130bt from amazon.com . the harness being two separate wires the new one had a different harness for the video and backup camera (white with rca's ) anyway now my unit appears working two problems the xm says check antenna but i did and its connected second problem is worse a error pops up every few seconds saying tuner failure restart system if problem continues contact tech basically i had the radio replaced the replacement was a z130bt until you turn it on and walla the software comes up as a z110bt not new features nothing. i checked the xm and again it says check antenna so im guessing the xm tuner isnt working i received the third replacement and again like the original tuner error and no xm i tried unplugging the xm connection to see if thats what the radio means by tuner failure but again it comes up as tuner failure so after this long crazy story is it my bad luck with bad units or can it be the install place doesnt know what they are doing they claim it isnt a wire problem its a bad luck what do you think?

It appears the Jack's world is very much like the world of e.e. cummings with a touch of Kafka.

If I wanted to hook up my video camera or something of that sort to the unit how could I do that? Does the unit have audio and video inputs?

Chino,

You should probably start a new thread rather than change the subject of this one. I guess technically you can't hijack a thread that you started, but it helps others later when they are searching for similar answers.

The Z130 has very similar hardware features and capabilities as the Z110/Z120. Here are the Specs http://www.pioneerel...igation.Support

You can also download the users manual for the Z130. Unfortunately, Pioneer hasn't posted the installation manual for it, but you can get the one for the Z120. That should give you an idea of the inputs. Just be aware, there are some physical differences between the Z110/Z120 and the Z130. But the basic idea is very similar.

Anyway, that would be a good place to start learning about these units

I loaded up the following Albums randomly selected from my computer

 

American Idiot, Meteora, Transformers The-Score, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, & Final Fantasy VII.

 

Only Transformers The-Score folder was the only folder that didn't seem to register onto the player. I made sure all the files were mp3's. I'm not sure what the issue is.

 

Any solutions to this?

Don't know the answer, but I have a few ideas.

The manual Appendix does list some limitations on the max number of files and folders, but I doubt that is your problem.

Also, the manual mentioned it supported CBR (constant bit-rate) MP3 compression. I think that implies that it doesn't support VBR compression. I don't know what the HU does if it encounters a file of fan unsupported format. It might just ignore it.

I have a Z120 and the maps suck. They do not show street names, even my housing tract built in 2006 does not show up.

 

Now that the Z130 has nav traffic, have they made any progress with the maps???

 

At this point I need to by a $99 Garmin to replace my $1,500 Pioneer "navigation" unit!

Try zooming in more. Often minor streets don't show-up unless you are zoomed-in to 1/4 mile or less. Apparently they are in the map data, just not displayed.

alright thanks, Ill give it a try first thing tomorrow and let you know

BTW, I doubt that the difference between 10.4 and 12V matters to the backup sensor circuitry, but there is something wrong with your wiring if you only get 10.4 volts when your car is running. Your car is running, right?