RonS

Did you engage the parking brake before selecting a video source?

 

 

Also is AV 1 set to ipod in the AV setup menu?

Yes, I think that so many people have done the by-pass that the most obvious solution to the "no video option" has been overlooked. I suspect that the same logic that prevents DVD video playback while the car is not parked would also apply to the iPod. So, try it when you are in park & brake is set.

I had the bypass from day one, so I can't test this theory. Should be in the manual.

Update: I searched through the Z120BT manual PDF. Under the section "Using AV input", there is a caution paragraph that states "To view video images, you must stop in a safe place and apply the parking brake."

Since the ipod connected through AV1, I suspect this also applies to ipods.

I have the same problem with my ipod touch and nano. I'm using a regular ipod cable rather than the pioneer, but other people seem to be able to use this without issue.

Thanks.

You haven't seen that on this forum. Because it won't work on a Z1x0. You must have the Pioneer cable (or a very good knock-off - don't bother looking - not worth it). Otherwise, all you'll get is the display of track info - with no sound.

i plugged my old ipod into the z120 today, and i get no sound, it loaded the songs, and is playing them on the unit, but no sound at all... anyone else have this issue?

 

i just loaded songs on it, and it did an update...

 

can someone please help?

What you left out was whether it previously worked with another iPod. If not, then it's the cable. Did you buy the Pioneer ipod cable (USB + a/v)? If so, which model?

Otherwise, which model iPod doesn't work? Was it on the list of supported iPods in the manual?

Hello. Once I move the mute wire over one hole and tie it to the parking brake wire, can I tie both of those to the ground wire coming off the pioneer to the ground wire on my metra wire harness? Or does the the radio need to be grounded seperate from the bypass and I should tie the ground wire from the pioneer to the groung wire on the metra harness and tie the mute and parking brake wire to seprate ground wire and ground that directly to the vehicle chassis?

 

Thanks

It would seem that a ground ...is a ground. However, it better be a damn good ground with all that going through it. I'd use the harness ground for the radio only, and tie the PB/Mute to a good, clean, chassis ground - so you know it is always grounded and won't cause any interference with the radio. That seems better to me.

I can display MP3 tags (and pause, stop, next, previous) of songs over BT with my Windows Mobile HTC HD2 phone, using Window Media Player. I can't do it using the "generic" player TCPMP. So the player must support this command set over BT. Not sure how to do it on iPhone/iPod. Why not just use the ipod cable. It is a much more flexible interface.

BTW, I cant use the HU to select from the library on my phone. Just move thru the playlist or album (forward or back). Have to use the phone to actually select the playlist or album.

I know this doesn't help with your problem, but this shows that the AVIC does support it over BT.

Speed shows on the 3D calibration page, but you can't access that page while the vehicle is moving. When your speed is zero, you can go the page and your speed will show once you start moving again. But if you exit the page you won't be able to see it until your next stop.

I'm guessing that doesn't apply when the bypass is installed?

Do you get sound with either AM or FM? I expect not. Are you using the RCA outputs to an external AMP or direct to speakers?

Can't help without answers to those questions. But it sounds like one of the cable dongles is not seated. Pull it and recheck. Test it before reinstalling, if possible.

But 1st, make sure you haven't set Mute and have the volume up to about 8-10. Mute is set, I recall, by holding the "speak" button in the bottom left corner.

Well, sorry you are having such trouble. Sure is a lot of effort for a patch update you probably would never notice in the first place. I'd say sit and wait for the card Pioneer is sending. Sounds like you've done everything you can.

I do remember that this 2.003 update was more trouble than the big update from 1.0 to 2.0. I don't know why. But I had to try a different SD and did 2 or 3 burns before it took. Thought maybe my SD reader on the computer was getting flakey.

Have you checked to see if you already have the lastest version? If you are up-to-date the update will not do anything.

 

Also, make sure you only have 1 folder called "AVICZ110". If you have an AVICZ110 folder with another AVICZ110 folder beneath it, put just the lowest 1 (the one with the APL, BOOT, FONTS, PLATFORM folders in it) on the SD card.

 

if that doesnt work try copying just the files in the AVICZ110 folder to the SD card without the AVICZ110 folder itself.

newman may be right, now that I think about the problems I had. I think my 1st attempt had two nested AVICZ110 directories. When that didn't work I tried both the way I described earlier (the various files in root), and just removing one layer of the AVICZ110 directory. Now I can't remember which method worked.

How are you writing to the SD? Depending on your reader/writer and OS, make sure you either right-click the SD device and choose "eject" or select the standard USB icon in the tray and "remove device". Wait for it to say it's cool. It may take a while for all the files to get flushed to the card - SD's are relatively slow to write to.

You should try to upload a splash screen picture from your SD card - if you can't maybe the SD reader is the culprit.

Easier yet, copy a few MP3s to the SD.

There are some custom screen images on this message board. The Z1xx series can use a large variety of sizes.

Splash screen images should be used within the following formats;

— BMP or JPEG files

— Allowable horizontal and vertical size are 2592 pixels x 1944 pixels or smaller

— Allowable data size is 6MB or smaller

From the Manual:

1 Create a folder named “Pictures” on the top-most directory of the

SD memory card and store the picture files in this folder.

2 Store the picture files in “Pictures”.

3 Insert an SD memory card into the SD card slot.

4 Display the “System Settings” screen.

5 Touch [splash Screen].

The “Select Splash Screen” screen appears.

6 Touch [select from SD].

The “Select Splash Screen” screen appears.

7 Touch the image to use as the splash screen from the list.

The image is displayed on the screen.

8 Touch [OK].

The image is set as the splash screen, and the system returns

to the “System Settings” menu.

Fat32 worked for me, but I suspect FAT would work also. I assume you are talking about the Z120 2.003 update you downloaded from Pioneer (don't know why else you'd be updating a Z120 ).

Lets go back to square one. I seem to remember having a little trouble with this also.

Make sure your SD card has these directories in its ROOT:

APL

BOOT

FONTS

PLATFORM

And the also following files:

EU090APL.HTM

EU090APL.VER

EU090BOT.HTM

EU090BOT.VER

EU090FNT.HTM

EU090FNT.VER

EU090PLT.HTM

EU090PLT.VER

I made the mistake of just blindly copying the directory I unziped the archive to, which had all these file under a directory called AVICZ110. This didn't work.

Insert the SD into the Z120 and if nothing happens within about 15 seconds, turn off your ignition and turn it back on. Let the AVIC reboot with the SD in it's slot.

Well if that's the case, then ANY Bluetooth device that transmits ACRCP 1.3 or 1.4 SHOULD result in meta-tag data, aka song, artist, album info transmitting to the Pioneer Avic's screen bia wireless bluetooth, no?

 

Well, if I play MP3s on my phone and have the AVIC source set to BT audio, I see the Album/Artist info, so I guess it works.

 

what phone are you using - and, is that a wireless connection, or if iPhone, a wired connection?

It is an HTC HD2 running WM 6.5. It only seems to work with Windows Media Player. It displays the Album, Artist and Song title. The Stop, Pause, Next Track, and Previous Track buttons also work.

I also tried TCPMP, which does not display any of the above info, just plays the audio.

In WMP, I also tried playing a few videos, but only the audio played on the AVIC.

As far as your second question, this is using BT (which is, of course, wireless). The discussion was about BT.

I was specifically responding to the statement about the capability of displaying MP3 tags on the AVIC using BT.

I don''t know if this is related to AVRCP 1.3 support.

Well if that's the case, then ANY Bluetooth device that transmits ACRCP 1.3 or 1.4 SHOULD result in meta-tag data, aka song, artist, album info transmitting to the Pioneer Avic's screen bia wireless bluetooth, no?

Well, if I play MP3s on my phone and have the AVIC source set to BT audio, I see the Album/Artist info, so I guess it works.

Do you have Daytime Running Lights? If so, it is not as straight-forward. If your headlights are always on, your display will always be dim - too dim for daytime use. That is - once the installer corrects the ILL wire connection.

BTW, I believe that the setting you referred to only controls whether the display inverts (dark landscape instead of light/white) when in night mode (as detected by the ILL wire), I don't think it affects display brightness per se.

I was playing around with this, setting it to "Daytime" instead of "Automatic", and the map didn't invert at night (when the headlights were on), but the display wasn't as bright when the headlights were on.

ok so I have done everything and it works great!!!!!! only 1 small problem I cant get the bluetooth 3.11 to work. When I put sd2 onto an sd card and i put it into the deck it will not allow me to click update, update will not even highlight. Any ideas?

First, does your phone show as currently paired with the AVIC? If not, try pairing it.

Another idea...Maybe it can't update if there is an ongoing connection with the phone, so try turning the phone off.

Keep playing with it, you'll get it. And when you do, post the solution. We need to make the instructions fool-proof.

You might have said in a previous thread, do you have Echo Cancel enabled? I found it made a big difference.

I also wrapped tape (black electrical tape) around the sides of the mic to cut down ambiant noise. Finally, I moved it up past the pillar, above the window a few inches closer to my head - tucked the wire into the trim with the headliner.

I don't have any problems anymore.

If you have an iPod, are you also having problems with VR? I was originally, which sort of ruled out that it was a just a phone/BT issue.

BTW. I currently have an HTC HD2. Previous phone was worse (Pharos 117). But it wasn't that great in my old car either. I am satisfied now. Of course I don't spent that much time talking when driving - got enough to keep me busy staying out of people's way in my Porsche 987.

If you can find the Z110 far cheaper than the Z120, then you could buy the Z110 and update the software to make it a Z120. You could either buy the software update for $130 - $200 ($200 is list price) or you could download the SD images and visit the hack thread for the DIY instructions.

It all depends on if you can get a good enough deal on a clearance priced Z110, and how much effort you are willing to put into the project.

BTW, if you buy the update, it won't affect your warrantee.

Makaveli,

Thanks, that seems to work. The iPod Touch doesn't have a "global" shuffle setting, so I was expecting setting a playlist to shuffle would either be temporary or only apply to the current playlist. But I set it on the current playlist(detached from the AVIC), and it seems to have stuck. Upon reconnecting to the AVIC, it did have to completely rebuild the VR directory (a rather long process - espesially if you are waiting in the garage for it to finish), but now the Z110 does retain the shuffle setting across several restarts and playlists. I haven't tried switching between selected artists or albumns yet, to see if it still stays in random mode. But it is an improvement over remembering to hit shuffle each time.

Does anyone know if it is possible to Install Any Country Map on the Pioneer AVIC-Z120BT ?

If you read the Hack email trail, it seems possible - get that update, and follow the directions (you would in that case need the EU update).

Yes, it seems that it is possible to install either the NA, EU or AU (are there others?) updates using the hacked 1.002 password patch. However, at this time it is not possible to modify/add maps on the AVIC that weren't part of that release. That is what it seemed the OP was asking. Maybe I mis-read the question - it wasn't clearly worded.

I noticed the same thing after my OS upgrade (the Z110->Z120 update). It doesn'r retain the random shuffle setting.

Well done on the mod!

Wanted to try this but needed to ask if this method will work the same with the AU version (f10bt) because I can't find any f10bt 1.001 on the AU/EU website. There is an update though for time-zone fix which contains pretty much the same files just a different size, would it still work if I swapped the 2 files on that update?

 

This is a US version and therefore contains the US maps, unles you can separate the interface and install that only, which I'm not sure you can

 

Would it not update all of North America Maps? what if you drove to Canada using your gps, it would only use the updated US Maps, and not the Canadian? if it updates Canada Maps I will Definitly do the change, if not im gonna have to buy it

To be precise, this update is for the North American version, so it has the latest maps that are included in the Z120. So yes, it includes Canada. I wouldn't bet on adding any other areas/map beyond what this release covers. Maybe in the future - when the actual software hacks start coming in, this will be possible. Remember - this "hack" doesn't modify the new release, just bypasses the password check. It does not - at this time - allow modification to the new release per se.

I'm not surprised that this didn't fix the problem, but it is a logical 1st step in figuring out what's wrong. That is, it puts the Z120 in a known, stable state.

Here are some ideas on how to proceed.

- Is your phone a Blackberry? There seems to be more problems with the Z110 BT on them. Look for more threads on BB pairing issues- there may be issues already addressed. What phone/model do you have?

- Is there any firmware update for your phone? Sometimes manufacturers fix pairing issues.

- Has the latest Pioneer update been installed? Latest version is 3.02. I think it is displayed in the "Service Information" menu under "System Setting". Could be wrong - I don't have the procedure in front of me.

- There are a few variations on the pairing procedure. Are you using the "Register from moble phone" method? (see page 64). I have been less successful letting the AVIC find my phone (page 63 in the manual). You should try both methods to see which works for your phone.

- From this thread, I can't tell if this was a factory Z120 or a Z110 that was updated by your installer (or you). I think the best way to tell is to look at the model number on the bottom left of the HU face, next to the "press-to-talk" button. If it says Z110, then this is an upgraded unit. If so, that raises the question of whether the installer installed SD2 (and/or the 3.10 BT on SD1). There are a few ways to display the BT software version. The simplest is to go to BT settings screen and select "Firmware Update". It displays your current version. It should be 3.11. If not, go back to your installer. The Pioneer update instruction imply that 3.10 must be installed prior to 3.11, but that might not be true. I don't think there is any way to verify that it was. I doubt this is your problem - just make sure you have 3.11.

- Are there other BT devices in the area when you attempt to pair? Might be interfering with the pairing. Was you phone connected to another BT device at the time?

- I have sometimes had a problem due to timing - waiting too long to respond on the phone after it detects the AVIC. I try to get everything set up so I can select and answer all prompts quickly. Sometimes it takes multiple attempts.

If nothing here helps, I'd go back to the installer. If you bought it from him, and he can't pair the phone, have him replace the unit.

TxFrdOwner,

Just curious, did you produce that nice diagram showing the NAV unit and the cabling, or was that from PAC-Audio?

NIce job if you did, but if PAC-Audio is marketing this, they really missed the boat (no video).

As far as parts to fabricate the correct adapter, even though 4 connector 3.5 mm male and female plugs/jacks are available (DigiKey would likely have), odds are against just replacing the jack in the PAC-Audio mount. It is probably a molded single piece unit. You would probably end up destroying it.

However, if it looks like the old jack is removable. Digikey does have a 4 conductor 1/8" panel mount jack. Maybe this one - http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea ... 43502PM-ND

Then I'd just make a dongle by sacrificing an old 1/8" A/V cable (I've got a few in my junk drawer), to get the 4-conductor plug and cable to solder to the back of the plug.

I don't know anything about the Android OS, but with my HTC HD2 (WM6.5), during pairing the phone asks if it is allowed to share the address book/contacts. It happens a few seconds after entering the code, and I think it is because the AVIC attempted to access the contacts. Maybe you need to re-pair and watch for the prompt on the phone.

The prompt only stays there for a short time, so I don't know what happens if you don't respond. Maybe it defaults to not allowing access.

Like I said, Android may have a completely different interface. There may also be some setting in the phones BT config that allows various BT protocol functions.

Guys this is all completely off topic.

Sorry!!! Yes sir, you're absolutely right.

So, I fixed it.