ducatiboy

Hi Ducatiboy I just got a Z1 I want to install into my 2004 Cad

escalade. Can you tell me best method to do bypass and any other mods or upgrades needed. I want to go full bore with this unit. Thanks, jim

Just read the first post in this thread:

http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html

The secondary master location, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter for MHDD, I think it only matters for the AF Repair station. If memory serves.

cant remember her name but:

theres nothing like getting your tongue around a good fat one, going in and out, in and out, in and out, milking him like a cow til he explodes in the back of your mouth

I don't know what this movie is but I want to watch it!

I can definitely see the drive in windows. The instructions on HDD FAQ said to press shift F3 to list the drives, but that doesn't do anything for me. Neither does the config command. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Sorry for the noob questions. I'm really not this computer illiterate, but the instuctions aren't very clear.

I thought they were very clear. I had never used MHDD before and followed his instructions to the letter and it went exactly as was written.

Once the Z1 drive is unlocked and you can see it in windows, you shut off your PC. Pull out all drives except for your Z1 drive. Reboot the machine with the MHDD boot disk in the drive.

You boot to the MHDD boot disk, you are in the DOS window.

Then from the instructions:

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 28&start=0

The only drive in your system should be displayed. In my case it is drive number 3. Press 3 and enter.

If no drives are displayed press shift F3 and the list should come up. Now press the number next to your drive.

You should be at a command prompt named MHDD> Type EID and press enter

This should display a log of information about your drive.

Here is the info from the stock drive.

TOSHIBA MK3029GACE LBA:58,605,120

SN:26TPxxxxx FW:RB102A

Supports HPA LBA MS16 DMA (UDMA5,MWDMA2)

SMART: Enabled Selftest: Suported ErrorLog:Supported

Security: high, OFF. Size = 28615MB

You should be back at the MHDD> prompt.

Type config and press enter

If the drive you have is configurable you will see the "CHANGEABLE PARAMETERS" list.

The item in the list you want to see is "Security feature set is supported"

First question: Do you want to apply any changes to your drive? y/N Press Y and Enter

The next set of steps will be different depending on what features your drive supports. Each question defaults to the current setting. Just press Enter at each question (you do not want to make changes to anything else or you will HURT your drive).

Do you want to switch SECURITY support off? y/N Press Y and Enter

Continue to press enter until you are finished with config.

You should see:

Calculating new checksum...

Writing changes to the drive...

Done.

Type EID at the MHDD> prompt and you should no longer see the security settings.

Type Exit and press enter.

awe shucks I'm not smart enough to pull this one off without screwing something up, thanks though I think I might have to fork over the 250 rather than be sorry

chidoc, is a smart person! And I'm not making fun, it takes a smart person to see something like this, want it and walk away. Please people, I can't stress this enough, if you read over this and don't feel confident to be able to do this, DON'T DO IT. It takes a very smart person to understand their limitations and realize they are over their head. I really want to avoid a mess of people posting they messed up their $1500+ Z1 cause they wanted it to be a Z2 and wanted to save the $250. Always better to be safe than sorry. AFMagnum did a great job writing this up, but if you don't feel comfortable doing it or won't get too angry if you mess up your Avic, please don't do it or ask a computer savvy friend for help.

Kurt's Dad: My son's a homosexual, and I love him. I love my dead gay son.

J.D.: Wonder how he'd react if his son had a limp wrist with a pulse.

Or

Miss Scarlet: Maybe there is such a thing as life after death.

Mrs. White: Life after death is as improbable as sex after marriage!

Or

Mrs. White: Yes, I did it. I killed Yvette. I hated her so... much... it... it... the... it... the... fee... flames... flames... on the side of my face... heaving... breathless... heaving breaths...

Or

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Igor, would you give me a hand with the bags?

Igor: Certainly, you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban.

Or, probably one of my all time favorites.....

Charlie: You shifty ni@@er.... They said you was hung.

Bart: And they was right.

Is it necessary to make the hard the

"AVIC Z1 hard drive as the master drive on your secondary IDE channel using the IDE Hard Drive Adapter"

 

Or could I get a usb adapter for the drive and then copy the image to the drive?

Yes, the unlocking tool needs the drive connected to the secondary master position, or else it won't find the drive. You can't get that kind of access through the usb interface. If you want to unlock your Z1 drive that's what you need to do.

What do you think of this:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-9ga91SyOOF ... 500CDA9887

This says you can make the buttons glow red.

There are a few people on the BMW boards who list radios, but most are old and not for sale anymore.

Even one of these?

http://www.bavariansoundwerks.com/produ ... 8/_cid=282

It looked pretty good.

Stock radio has a red glow. Any ideas what might be a good single din radio, similar look (red colored if possible) ipod and sat radio capable. I went to crutchfield and looked but there are 100's of single din radios, don't have any experience with any of them really.

Nope manual transmission. That was one of my first criteria.

Notice that AWESOME stock tape deck! Debating what to do with the radio, it sounds good and has the updated speakers and sub, but I don't know what I want to put in there in a single din radio... maybe just an ipod/aux adapter or something.

Just in time for summer to be over, but I had to do it, it's very fun.

DucatiBoy... can't believe you never mentioned the FTP as a distribution point!

Mainly cause I didn't know a server which would be appropriate for hosting this. I have a few FTP servers but I didn't want them to get slammed with traffic. It still ends up with a single point server and with the number of people who want this image, I guarantee you that there will be 2 dozen people downloading it as soon as it' up. I was thinking more bittorrent or newsgroup for the distributed hosting, instead of just one point. FTP is great, but did not have a good place to put the files and wouldn't want it on my server and no one I knew wanted to host it either.

Hmm....changing the boot screen must be a Z2's new feature.

Yes it is a new feature in the Z2, but I think it allows you to put a new background image, but still puts some pioneer text over top of the boot background you choose.

Can't do this on the Z1's.

Not without unlocking the hard drive and editing the files, I did this a year ago and love the fact it doesn't say "pioneer" when it boots up.

So the update DVD will include all those features of a Z2 right?

Yes, it will make you Z1 into a Z2.

This is where I send people to learn about them:

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

Don't know if the link helps at all for anyone, but one of the better write ups.

stryk3r, that's a very good thought. I don't know if anyone would necessarily flame you for this. I actually think it's the best way to distribute this... to other internet savvy people.

I would say that 99% of the internet users out there don't even know that they exist and it would turn into a maintenance nightmare with the number of posts of "What web site do I go to in order to download from these news groups?".

I have enlightened some friends as to the newsgroup world and many of them just don't get it. Those who do get it, this would be the perfect medium to share this disk. For those who don't will still want it, and we can't force them to become more intelligent, but we might have to "dumb down" our sharing method. It seems like it would be easy for people to say, it's at alt.binaries.avic.fileshare or something but you can't imagine the flood of help requests we will get here, that's my biggest worry.

i just tried doing it on another computer and the same thing happened. it goes in and nothing happens. i hit map and it takes me to the navigation screen. i have no idea what i am doing wrong. is it the way im burning it?? how am i suppose to tell the navi to update??? does it do it by itself?

If the disk was burned correctly, when you stick in the disk if you are in AV mode I think it will say "CD Rom" or something and just sit there and not do anything. If you hit map or on the nav screen, it will bring up a screen automatically to say "do you want to perform this update? Yes or No" and if the parking brake is not on (or the parking brake sense wire is not grounded) it will have the "yes" grayed out. But it's pretty automatic. I think you can see the nav screen in a 1/4 inch outline behind the box that asks if you want to perform the update.

The most common problem I would say is that the burned disk would have the ISO file on it in data mode. You need to run Nero (or img burn, or Alcohol 120%) and don't burn a data CD and put it on there, but you want to tell it to burn the ISO file and select that file and it will create the disk with all the files on it. That's a very common problem. Many people mistake that with putting the ISO file on the disk.

If when you stick the disk in and hit map and it just sits there, then I would focus on the disk. I'm guessing there is something wrong with the burn or how you are doing it.

Now the bypass... I saw that the light green wire was grounded, good. Now. for the 2nd wire, the isntaller just took a random foreign wire, cut both the ends, grounded one end and stuffed the other into the socket in Ducati's "2 wire" instruction picture. I moved the connector a bit and the wire just fell out.. Don't think it was in there too good obviously...

Well, that sucks. That should not work very well. You need to relocate a wire in connector 1 or 2 and insert it in there.

So the yellow wire from "connector 1" on the bottom left set of wires (in the black plastic block connector) has a fuse on it right? I just want to make sure its the right one before I take it out of the connector.. It goes through a black plastic piece that has a fuse in it, then its spliced to 3 other yellow wires... at which point do I take the yellow wire and ground it? Should I ground it including the fuse? And what are the 3 other yellow wires spliced to it?

The cell phone mute wire is a yellow/black wire. I don't know what yours is wired too. But you want to take a wire from connector 1 or 2 which you are not using, it doesn't matter which one. Extract it from the connector and re-insert it into the location I specified. Then ground it.

Also, for the VSS. The ahole told me he connected it, but it got some electrical tape on the end and its not connected. What a jerk.. This one seems like a tough one because I don't have the slightest clue how to wire it behind or through the firewall and such so I might just have to have the slightly less clueless installer try to do it.

Jerks. I wish I could tell you where it is in the pilot, but I can't. Maybe someone here can. Usually for the firewall, I would find something else that goes though there and stick the wire in there with it. But I'm not an installer so I don't have much experience with that.

Thanks for the help so far

I which I had more for you.

Or img burn

http://imgburn.com/

It's free!

very possible. we will have to give that a try tomorrow. thanks!

You are very welcome. Let us know what you find in case someone else ever runs in to this.

zip the file

i know some one here did that with MPT 70 cds and the file was 2gigs

Unzipped it's 17 gigs. Fully zipped it's 7.8gigs ish. It's still a lot to distribute.

I'm having the same exact problem as the OP.. And I have taken it back to the isntaller already and he said he grounded a second wire just like the picture shows.... SIGH guess I have to take it back again

Is OP short for Other People? My guess is the installer is focusing on the end of the wire which is connected to a ground wire and not at the end that's shoved into connector 2. 99 times out of 100 even with installers who have DOZENS of years experience when they have problems, it's problems inserting the wire and terminal end into connector 2.

I don't know why, but it seems that's by FAR the biggest problem with people and it causes the unit to be unlocked while stationary and even sometimes works for 50 - 100 miles, then will start locking you out while moving. If that's what's happening, that second wire in connector 2 is not grounded.

The problem is that it's not the "wire" that needs to be grounded and that wire just "hangs out in thin air". The end in connector 2, HAS TO MAKE CONTACT with the pin inside the Z1/Z2. If it doesn't you can ground the other end till the cows come home (mooooo) but it won't do anything. You (or your installer) has to get both ends right and most can ground a wire. Fewer have the experience taking apart and reinserting a wire/terminal end into another location inside a connector. Why? I don't know. But answer this question a few hundred times (I might be approaching 1000 times for this same question) from installers who SWEAR they did it right, finally get it and thank me. Why is connector 2 such a problem? I don't know.

ALSO. Ducati, what do you mean a "Avic that can't be bypassed" I thought they all could be bypassed now?

Technically that was "you have an Avic Z unit which is not bypassable with the 2 wire ground" Older Z1's without a software update are not bypassable with the 2 wire ground. They all can be bypassed, but without the software update, they are bypassed a different way, flashing the headlights.

skep, since the clock and position is taken from the GPS antenna, my first guess is the GPS antenna is unplugged. Have the guy hit

MENU - SETTINGS - HARDWARE - CONNECTION STATUS

And look at the GPS antenna signal line. How many sats does he have? What color are they (yellow or orange)? If he has no sats, maybe the GPS antenna is just unplugged.

Ducati im not trying to be an ass but im an mecp certified 1st class installer and have been installing since i was 15 and im 33 now, i know the difference between locked out and not. all my functions work while im driving and the unit is completely bypassed. i did one more reset and now the warning went away. but please dont make me out to be stupid, because it seemed like thats what u guys are trying to say. sorry for the rant and keep up the good work

Well, not to be an ass either, but I really don't care about your credentials. And I was not trying to make you out to be stupid. I have had 100's of PM's and emails from people with way more experience than you (or at least claimed as much as you did) who couldn't figure out what's wrong with this bypass or needed help with this bypass. I'm sorry if you didn't like my response, but that was due to a very short and less than descriptive post. Now that I read this one and go back and re-read the last one, I understand what your problem was. I guess I didn't back then.

But don't feel too bad, people with way more experience and more history installing things in cars have more trouble than you do. You are by far not the only one who has issues and needed help to resolve them.

But I have been dealing with trying to help people here for ages and if I was confused with what you posted, then chances are others were too. Sorry you had to try not to be an ass.

its bypassed correctly. the bypass works fine but i get the stupid brake warning only when i 1st start my car

 

it sounds like it was not bypassed properly. check your wiring.

"bypassed correctly" only works as a description if you are moving and everything still works. It's not bypassed correctly if it's locked out while moving.

If it's UNLOCKED while stopped but it's LOCKED while moving it's not BYPASSED. The bypass will have it unlocked all the time. Don't mean to be a stickler for definitions but it will help everyone understand what's going on and possibly point you in the direction of the solution.

If you have access to stuff while stationary but not while moving it's 1 of 2 things:

1. you didn't load the hyperite iso disk in there but you grounded both wires you were supposed to.

OR

2. the update ISO is loaded correctly, but when you grounded the wires, the parking brake sense wire is grounded but you did not ground the "second" wire in connector 2.

And you can only make 1000 CD's. It will only take 1000 and I think you will run out of room on the drive with less than half that. So at least you don't have to make 800 million.